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[quote="James Dahl"]Every word is the truth as I see it. You may have a different opinion, but what facts I mentioned above are untrue?[/quote]

i honestly am not going to spare 1/10 of a second even talking to you about that...waa sax everything you said is SAX

[quote="DawladSade"][quote="James Dahl"]Every word is the truth as I see it. You may have a different opinion, but what facts I mentioned above are untrue?[/quote]

i honestly am not going to spare 1/10 of a second even talking to you about that...waa sax everything you said is SAX [/quote]

, DS, he is non-Somali though.

James:

Do u work for "the Company"

How delusional are these kids.

James Dahl, nothing of power vacuum is in place in Kismayo. Kismayo is still in the hands of the government. Contrary to the news and how the story was quickly picked by deluded folks of Anti-TFG is that Shabelle reported first militias loyal to Bare HIrale ousted Afgadud. In fact, the conflict was not tribal at all but a coalition of clans against a recent order issued by the commander of the National Army in the city, which basically told international agencies that they will be served by the national army for their security needs and protection. Col. Aadan Goojaar selected 100 soldiers and assured their salary will be directly from humanatarian agencies. Therefore, the group that coalesced to rebel against the plan did so to effect some changes through a military option. It was unexpected and resulted in little social disorder. As of now, the small, non-tribal coalition has been pacified.



War nimanyahoo sida oo dhaama, oo beenta aad isu sheegeysaa iska yareeya.

Kismayo: 12 killed as rival clans clash

Monday, April 23, 2007

MOGADISHU - At least 12 people have been killed and nine wounded when rival Somali clan members clashed in the southern port of Kismayo in a leadership dispute, residents said.

The fighting erupted after Marehan clan gunmen attacked their rivals from the Majerteen clan whom they suspected of stealing a car from a Marehan police officer in Kismayo, about 500 kilometres south of Mogadishu.

But residents said the two clans were at loggerheads over the governance of Kismayo.

The Marehan clan that has governed the town since 1999 has been demanding a greater say in the running of Kismayo after they lost control of the port town to the Majerteen clan early this year.

"At least four gunmen were killed and nine others were wounded in a battle near the residence of a top military commander," Abdi Mohamed Abdullahi, a militiaman, told AFP.

Doctors and residents said eight civilians were killed in the fighting, the heaviest in the township in recent months.

"We have received the bodies of three civilians and as heavy fighting continues we expect more casualties," a medical officer said on condition of anonymity.

"Three other civilians were killed after they were hit by stray bullets," said Hirsi Abdi, a resident.

Another resident Asha Mohamed said two bodies were also retrieved from the scene of the violence.

Mohamed Hassan, a police officer, confirmed the fighting.

Inter-clan fighting is common in Somalia since the 1991 ouster of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre touched off a deadly power struggle that has defied numerous attempts to restore stability in the country.

More than 200 civilians have also been killed in the capital in six days of clashes between Ethiopian forces and Islamist insurgents, who are opposed to the presence of the foreign troops in the country.

Source: AFP, April 23, 2007

AFP is no insider of what has happened. It relies on Somali sites and the biases of interviews through the e-mail. They don't even have one reporter in the city. Particularly Shebele on which many Associated press take story from this internet portal! We know Shabelle's smearing news propoganda.

look at this boon, i was the first to report the mj's were running from kismaayo before the somali news even wrote about them and you are telling ME what happened?

Who owns Gedo and the rest of lower and upper Juba?
Mastery over the Juba Valley requires Bardhere and Bu'alle as well as Jilib.
How about the border towns, does Ethiopia still occupy those?

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]James:

Do u work for "the Company" [/quote]

I was wondering when someone was gonna ask that. All the cues are there.

Prag,

I can tell. But a bigger question is "Will we get compensated for all of the info he gathers?"

Far to often, Somalis give these "Consultants" free info without getting paid While the consultants make hand over fist & appear on news shows as "experts on Somalia"

I first assumed JD was simply facinated with somalia, and was consuming all the information available to him.

then after a while i noticed that a good part of what he knows is comming from Somali language sources, either someone is translating for him,

or he is making allot of educated guess from the limited english language sources,
or


as Abdi said .. he could be from the company.

I'm not a spy
There are lots of english language sources available if you know where to look.

ah so you are saying my third guess was right, you are making accurate but educated guess from english sources?

English sources do not have much information, you need to delve into the dozens of somali sources to get a good picture.

^^^

a story of a typical anarchic somali nomad lamagodley savage who don't want the establishment of a nation. tell me more about tribal loyalty. in that kind of idea, conceptually somalia and somaliland are dead.

Gathering an accurate understanding of Somalia can only be achieved when you take in the latest current events, and you put it into a HISTORICAL CONTEXT. Historical context is the key to Somalia, and this is easy for me since I am a historian.

Everything that happens in Somalia is dictated by history, past grievances, past glory, past ownership, past defeat, past victory. In Somalia, if you do not understand why something is happening, then you do not understand the history behind it.

THIS is why, as a historian, I am so fascinated in Somalia. Some day, I want to be able to make a book out of this intricate interconnected history, but that is a long time off, as I am not even close to a full understanding of Somali history.