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I see Grant did it already.

Now all of you bastards, stop whining

He didn't do anything Mad Mac , there's no comparison in the proportions and the magnitude of the damage inflicted by " christians" throughout history onto humanity.
Stop calling us all bastards also coz the only one that's sticking his nose where it doesn't belong is certainly NOT ME!!

[quote="Grant"][quote="Alluring"]Mad Mac,

What does her being Muslim have to do with her hating those countries and people.

ABOUT 0.1%

Christians have committed more crimes, than any Muslim combined!!!!

1.) Slavery
2.) Colonization
3.) Christian- Crusades
4.) Bombing building, filled with babies and children
5.) Bombing abortion clinics


NEED I GO ON?[/quote]

Alluring,

Of course, the Omani Sultanate didn't enslave the Somali Bantu or castrate hundreds of thousands of African boys for the harem trade. Nor does it advocate the continuation of slavery forever.

Islam did not conquer Byzantium or colonize Spain or North Africa.

What do YOU call the attempted conquest of Europe? Of course that wouldn't be conquest or colonization since it was devinely inspired.

Do we really need to discuss the consequences of the Shia-Sunni split in the Gulf?

Please, go on all you llike.[/quote]


If the Arabs did enslave the Bantus who lived in Somalia, that does not mean it was for Islamic purposes but for PERSONAL gain. The European invaders, thought it was God's will (Christanity) to colonize regions like the Americas (where the Natives lived) and take West/Central Africans, because the dark race is cursed in the bible.

The Ottman Empire (Turkey) was the greatest Islam front. They had many Jews ethnicities living amongst them, did they ONCE kill or put them in gas chambers like the Whites or Christians did? I think NOT.

There is no Shi'a vs Sunni hatred, it was flamed and fueled by Western imperialism for popular gain of oil.

Conflict= Death= Money

Alluring,

Google "Somali Bantu" and look into their origins. They are not from Somalia.

Because the Christians did it, does that make it right?

Turkey is what is left of Byzantium. There is some disagreement over the extent of the genocide, but total agreement that an extraordinary number of Armenians died during WWI. Virtually all Jews have left Turkey.

No idealogical divisions among the 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide? Then how come Wahabi/Salafi individuals can kill or own as slaves other muslims of "lesser" sects?

Can you really be so ignorant of the differences between propaganda and reality?

Are you idiotic Grant? Of course Somali Bantu's are not originally Somali. I happen to be Somali, therefore I do know who my people are or aren't. Wallahi, this old man is redundant.

You should focus on who will change your diaper in the coming years, than getting into a discussion that you know little about.

Discontinue copying and pasting information from secondary sources.

With the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, there are about maybe 2-5 million who are extreme in their teaching, and in those occurences has to do with their culture.

Jews are the oldest people in civilization, and when the Ottoman empire was in its prime state a lot of them lived in Turkey, but they did not once harm or hurt them. THAT IS FACT, FACT FACT!

Christianity and their teaching proclaims individuals to kill. They had to REVISED Old Testament, and in the New Testament made the teaching more nicer and loving scriptures.

Ina
Anyone oppossed to Pax Americana is a bastard!


Garac, Garac, Garac!!!!!!

Alluring keep it simple: America good, Islam evil.

How can you compare a religion to a country?

Don't make yourself sound like an idiot.

The religion is a social dogma. Hence the comparison.

So you are saying America is a doctrine of truth without proof?

That clearly is the defintion of DOGMA!

No America is an EMPIRE!!!!! And a mighty one at that.

Mad Mac anyone can buy you...you are easy to persuade.

Wasn't Russia more powerful, than America is at this era? I wonder how they are doing.

[quote="galia"]I hate america

I hate isreal

I hate Ethiopia

I hate bush

i hate Tony Blair

I hate united nations[/quote]



Indeed we shall soon liberate them from their oppressive regime, Insha'Allah.

[quote="Alluring"]

"Jews are the oldest people in civilization, and when the Ottoman empire was in its prime state a lot of them lived in Turkey, but they did not once harm or hurt them. THAT IS FACT, FACT FACT!"

Is that a proven fact. Get me some evidence to back your claims.

"Christianity and their teaching proclaims individuals to kill. They had to REVISED Old Testament, and in the New Testament made the teaching more nicer and loving scriptures."

How can that be when Islam and Muslims were the first religious denomination to start by killing unbelievers? In fact, the Christians didn't start killing people until 300 years after Islam and Muslims started their vile killing spree which by the way is still happening in the present day

here see for yourself.....

http://markhumphrys.com/islam.killings.html

Wow. The most alluring Alluring is delivering the Smackdown here! LooooooooL

This 'destruction of Christianity by Jihad' nonsense is easily refutable. During the time of Saladin, the majority of Palestinian peoples were Christian. I'm sure their 'brothers in Christ' slaughtering them like cattle had something to excalate their conversion to Islam. Then there are the 14 Million or so Coptic Christians living in Egypt today. If Christianity was destroyed in North Africa, where did these Copts spring out of?

Since it was so easy to conquer and focibly convert all of the Levant and North Africa, according to your source, it would follow that 600 year rule of Muslims in India would have yeilded a largely Muslim India, since Muslims are so adept at forcible conversions. Now, Muslim rule ended 200 years ago in India; and suprisingly, India is a majority Hindu state today. The Hindu's can't have become an absolute majority in 200 years! What can we conclude from this, #1baller.

We can question what Muslim army invaded Hindu and Buddhist Indonesia and Malaysia, and made them majority Muslim nations? There is no historical record of any army leaving from India, and following the popular characterisation of Muslims, they would not hesitate to brag about their conquests! If Islam garnered the majority of its followers through forced conversions, why did these two areas convert to a 'violent and bloodthirsty' religion of their own accord?

We can ask what army invaded East Africa and converted the Somali's to Islam?

Oh, and #1baller, you're source believes that the Great Library of Alexandria was destroyed by the Muslims, when they conquered Egypt. Now, its a well documented fact that the Great Library of Alexandria was destroyed by Ceasar's defence of Alexandria on behalf of Cleopatra. Now, if this is the quality of scholarship from your source, then I decry your sense of reason.