Federalism
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Re: Federalism
Welcome back Emporer.
I mainly agree with melo, the amount of interference and negativity states such as Puntland has made to the the Federal Government is unacceptable. If such hinderence is going to allow hostile countries such as Kenya and Ethiopia to exploit our resources. We all remember how Abdullahi Yusuf allowed an enemy state to rape and pillage the south and we also remember Sharmake signed a letter of memorandum allowing Kenya to explore Somalia's seashores. Such individuals who represented the autonomous states are verily the enemies of Somalia, and should not be allowed such power.
My main concern is the breach of muslim unity in Somalia, federalism essentially encourages dangerous divisions which can lead to bloody conflicts. Also who will draw the borders for these so called 'states'? We already see a failure to solve the SSC crisis, imagine if these were created tenfold? The result would be a tragedy. As a representative of the Somali people, I encourage Somalis to build an islamic government with dedicated and capable scholars creating a Shura or Islamic judiciary. These appointed representatives will loosely hold power and will not be similar to an Iranian style clerical dictatorship, they shall be the highest institution and will then elect an Amiir too lead the Somali peninsula, he will implement Shariah law through which all shall be pre-drafted from the Quran and the Sunnah. All secular groups shall be immediately banned in the public arena and only those qualified in their appropriate fields will be appointed to a cabinet. The Finance Treasurer for example will be an expert on Islamic banking and Riba, the defence minister in the conscription of mujahideen fighters, the development/aerial nuclear sector shall be an expert in these mechanical fields but will work to develop Airforce weapons for the said mujahideen, the energy minister in providing energy for the muslims, etc etc.
this is my dream inshallah.
I mainly agree with melo, the amount of interference and negativity states such as Puntland has made to the the Federal Government is unacceptable. If such hinderence is going to allow hostile countries such as Kenya and Ethiopia to exploit our resources. We all remember how Abdullahi Yusuf allowed an enemy state to rape and pillage the south and we also remember Sharmake signed a letter of memorandum allowing Kenya to explore Somalia's seashores. Such individuals who represented the autonomous states are verily the enemies of Somalia, and should not be allowed such power.
My main concern is the breach of muslim unity in Somalia, federalism essentially encourages dangerous divisions which can lead to bloody conflicts. Also who will draw the borders for these so called 'states'? We already see a failure to solve the SSC crisis, imagine if these were created tenfold? The result would be a tragedy. As a representative of the Somali people, I encourage Somalis to build an islamic government with dedicated and capable scholars creating a Shura or Islamic judiciary. These appointed representatives will loosely hold power and will not be similar to an Iranian style clerical dictatorship, they shall be the highest institution and will then elect an Amiir too lead the Somali peninsula, he will implement Shariah law through which all shall be pre-drafted from the Quran and the Sunnah. All secular groups shall be immediately banned in the public arena and only those qualified in their appropriate fields will be appointed to a cabinet. The Finance Treasurer for example will be an expert on Islamic banking and Riba, the defence minister in the conscription of mujahideen fighters, the development/aerial nuclear sector shall be an expert in these mechanical fields but will work to develop Airforce weapons for the said mujahideen, the energy minister in providing energy for the muslims, etc etc.
this is my dream inshallah.
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Re: Federalism
The_Emperior5 wrote:loool pinky. Puntland is stil a large land bari is one of the largest gobols in somalia. All the way to mudug you really think there is much beef between sl and pl. Col carays and general nuux taani spoke in 2006 and said ma buurahan madhan bay rag iskaga dhimanayaan war ciidanka inoo kala kaxe since 2006 i think no somaliland soldier or puntland soldier died in dispute maybe a few shoot outs and tuka raq but thats about. Col afdhilo habarjeclo commander of sool till 2008 his wife was majeerteen when he finished his duties in laascaanod he took his car and spend the weekend garowe where his wife and kids live the puntland security forces just let him in with his car and after a few days he leaves back to laascaanood. The former deputy police chief of garowe his wife and kids live in hargeisa some times he spends a week in hargeisa and takes a plane from hargeisa to garowe loool




Emperior5, wasn't Col. Falso the guy you guys cut his body into pieces, because he was MJ.

The Dhulbahante soldiers were released, but the Isaaq refused to release the Dhabayaco soldiers. Till this day, I think they're still in there.

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Re: Federalism
Well speaking of federalism, if Knight is arguing half of Bari being another state thats valid. Maakhir State includes Sanaag and W.Bari parts of North Sool which would full under states of Somalia.
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Re: Federalism
The_Emperior5 wrote:Damu. Pinky has high hopes for the hotel states called raascaseyr state and some other joke called gagaab state war kuwasi hudheelada nairobi ma so dhaafaan bariiskodu marku dhamaado bay paltalk iskaga labtaan

that goes for all the people on this forum who have never been back home yet talk day and night about the politics or who settle where and so forth back home

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Re: Federalism
melo,
i didn't mention any clan or subclan names, but you did.
i didn't mention any clan or subclan names, but you did.
Re: Federalism
mashallah akhi. we shall also have a propaganda minister with years of training on internet forums.grandpakhalif wrote:Welcome back Emporer.
I mainly agree with melo, the amount of interference and negativity states such as Puntland has made to the the Federal Government is unacceptable. If such hinderence is going to allow hostile countries such as Kenya and Ethiopia to exploit our resources. We all remember how Abdullahi Yusuf allowed an enemy state to rape and pillage the south and we also remember Sharmake signed a letter of memorandum allowing Kenya to explore Somalia's seashores. Such individuals who represented the autonomous states are verily the enemies of Somalia, and should not be allowed such power.
My main concern is the breach of muslim unity in Somalia, federalism essentially encourages dangerous divisions which can lead to bloody conflicts. Also who will draw the borders for these so called 'states'? We already see a failure to solve the SSC crisis, imagine if these were created tenfold? The result would be a tragedy. As a representative of the Somali people, I encourage Somalis to build an islamic government with dedicated and capable scholars creating a Shura or Islamic judiciary. These appointed representatives will loosely hold power and will not be similar to an Iranian style clerical dictatorship, they shall be the highest institution and will then elect an Amiir too lead the Somali peninsula, he will implement Shariah law through which all shall be pre-drafted from the Quran and the Sunnah. All secular groups shall be immediately banned in the public arena and only those qualified in their appropriate fields will be appointed to a cabinet. The Finance Treasurer for example will be an expert on Islamic banking and Riba, the defence minister in the conscription of mujahideen fighters, the development/aerial nuclear sector shall be an expert in these mechanical fields but will work to develop Airforce weapons for the said mujahideen, the energy minister in providing energy for the muslims, etc etc.
this is my dream inshallah.
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Re: Federalism
Knight of Wisdom wrote:Where is Damu?The_Emperior5 wrote:When abdilahi yusef was in xamar. They send 10000 troops to fight against icu i think when the head of state of the tfg is from puntland they will send troops if not they will just make sure cumar buur had enough video games in villa somalia so that ina boqor could ignore all the shelling in villa amisom
Pinky. Good learn more about isaaqs. Good boy
And i consider puntland nugaal bari karkaar and mudugHe was clapping for you, when you said "Puntland is a large territory". I think he thought you were including Sool, Sanaag iyo Cayn (Southern Togdheer).
Buhoodle is located in South Eastern Togdheer not Southern Togdheer. Furthermore Buhoodle District is shared between Habar jeclo's and Dhulbahante's.

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Re: Federalism
HaragWafi85 wrote: Furthermore *Buhoodle* District is shared between Habar jeclo's and Dhulbahante's.













Yeah, and Santa Claus is leading the Prayer in the Ka'bah.

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Re: Federalism
Deegaanka Qorilugud ee Buhoodle District. Habar jeclo, Solomadow. 
Goaanka Beesha Qorilugud

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Re: Federalism
Ma Solomadowdii Kalshaale lagu karbashay?
Hadii aad waxas la so shir tagtay, inan ku jawaboba ma'ehen.


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Re: Federalism
In the 1960 two hj dudes ba barlamaanki ka so baxay buhoodle district
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Re: Federalism
Two HJ Dudes?The_Emperior5 wrote:In the 1960 two hj dudes ba barlamaanki ka so baxay buhoodle district


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Re: Federalism
Kuwan caawo wey sakhraansan yihin wallahi, ilaahi mey ka cabsadaan. Balse fiiriya beenta ey la shiir tagaayaan. Ina gumeydo waxaas baa lugu yaqaana. 

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Re: Federalism
KOW some geography lessons for you.
1. Buhoodle is located in South Eastern Togdheer not Southern Togdheer.
2. The district is not exclusive to one sub clan but rather shared.
1. Buhoodle is located in South Eastern Togdheer not Southern Togdheer.
2. The district is not exclusive to one sub clan but rather shared.
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Re: Federalism
XimanJaale wrote:Kuwan caawo wey sakhraansan yihin wallahi, ilaahi mey ka cabsadaan. Balse fiiriya beenta ey la shiir tagaayaan. Ina gumeydo waxaas baa lugu yaqaana.



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