African is an embarrassment.

[Khalid Ali]

That's because most African "countries" are amalgamations of various ethnic groups and nations that have nothing to do with each other, so it's obvious they use the language of their colonizers as a lingua franca.

Ethiopia was never colonized, Eritrea doesn't have an official language, and Somalia is one of the few nations that's homogeneous.

'SOMALIA' WAS COLONIZED BY THE BRITISH AND ITALIAN. 99% SOMALIS DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH OR ITALIAN.
ERITREA WAS COLONZIED BY THE ITALIAN. 99.9% OF ERITREANS DON'T SPEAK ITALIAN.

There was no need to learn Italian unless you were a civil servant or attended an Italian school, in a country where 100% of the population spoke the same language.

But in a country like Nigeria with 521 languages, what language should the people use to communicate?

What did Nigerians speak before the Brits arrived?

[grandpakhalif]

Based, the fact of the matter is that Somalis and Horners in general have retained their old culture, language, ethics and religion unlike the primitive Bantu who have been subjugated and humiliated. Why have they abandoned their former polytheistic religions and adopted Christianity? For example, in the Democratic of Congo the Belgians entered in the late 1800s and subjugated into slavery, farming rubber for their Belgian masters. Do you think such a tragedy can occur in Somalia? Such is the weakness and inferiority of the lower Bantu.

Why haven't we retained our old culture and religion? Why have we abandoned our former religions and adopted Islam? Why have we abandoned our original names and adopted Arab names? Why did we allow Britain, Italy, France, Ethiopia, and Kenya to subjugate our people and occupy our lands?

Obviously because Islam fit well and is the correct and right religion, Somalis were guided by the hand of the All-Mighty. About abandoning arab names, this is simply a wrong perception, have you taken a survey where you have concluded that more parents are abandoning Somali names? This may be a diaspora phenomenon and not necessarily one in Somalia, so such an assertion is false. Clearly those examples of subjagation are not at the levels the Bantus experienced under their colonial masters where they languages were replaced with French (i.e Niger) and their religions completely abolished.

[Khalid Ali]

Based, the fact of the matter is that Somalis and Horners in general have retained their old culture, language, ethics and religion unlike the primitive Bantu who have been subjugated and humiliated. Why have they abandoned their former polytheistic religions and adopted Christianity? For example, in the Democratic of Congo the Belgians entered in the late 1800s and subjugated into slavery, farming rubber for their Belgian masters. Do you think such a tragedy can occur in Somalia? Such is the weakness and inferiority of the lower Bantu.

Why haven't we retained our old culture and religion? Why have we abandoned our former religions and adopted Islam? Why have we abandoned our original names and adopted Arab names? Why did we allow Britain, Italy, France, Ethiopia, and Kenya to subjugate our people and occupy our lands?

Culture is still alive since we are Muslims i have no problem with Somalis naming themselves after the sahabas or prophets. islam is our culture islam is not a religion its a way of life as for we have our own folkore dances poetry and own culture


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[DayaxJeclee]

intii dagaalkii sokeeya biloobtay baa ilmaha yar yar magacyo carab la siiyeey moyee.
inta badan dhaqan iyo af hooyo midnama kama aan tagin.

waaq na ma u tukan karno .

Eebe iyo nabiga CSW baan rumaysanay. Diinta dalkeen seef iyo dhiig kuma aysan imaaniin.

[ZubeirAwal]

Wallahi Its not good to claim kemet despite Somalis have had close links to Kemet language wise and culture wise, we should discuss the fact that in a hadith the prophet said while he was in Isra and Miraj his night journy to the other world where he met all of his brother prophets, he said Isa (as) was a tall slender man will a reddish-syrian skin tone with long shoulder-length hair, but what caught my eye he said that Musa (as) was a dark skin man with curly hair, isn't that cushite?

Tightrope's comment about Marrying isaaqs made my day , it's true northern Somalis are more pure then southern, atleast more pure-cushite.

[Based]

lol, the Bantus could argue that Christianity fit well and is the correct and right religion, and were guided by the hand of the All-Mighty.

As for the names, Somali names are slowly being replaced by random Arab names like Aref or Iyaad. I would argue that the phenomenon of arabization is even stronger in Somalia than it is in the diaspora. The civil war has been disastrous for Somali culture, where even our dress has been completely altered in the name of "conservatism". Cultural imperialism funded by petro-dollars is slowly eroding our culture, and I fear we're on the path to becoming the new Sudan in a few generations.

@Khalid, there was no Nigeria prior to colonization. That's what I was trying to get at, it's a just a bunch of random ethnic groups bunched up together by force. Most African countries don't even fit the definition of a nation. btw, those dances seem to be at odds with the morality of orthodox Islam, unless you're saying they're pre-islamic holdovers, in which case that's what I've been arguing.

@Abuukar, how are they more pure if you claim to have arrived to Somalia only in the 13th century

[ZubeirAwal]

^ Based Sheikh Isxaaq's sons in their 4th or 5th generatiopn probably lost their looks since they married the locals, thats why Isaaqs are Somalis, did you know Sheikh Isxaaqs other four sons in yemen have descendets in the City of San'a,Taiz and Jawf one of my relatives went there and collected some info, but still we are Somalis because the fact that 1 Arab man and his half arab children turned into a 1/3 then 1/5/ then 1/20 and it disappeared, So technically we are still pure because Somalis in the south have obviously links to Bantus not saying thats bad but northerners are more cushite.

[Khalid Ali]

Islam arrived in Somaliland in the 7Th century in Seylac and the residents back than said Wa samacna wa atacna we accept there is Masjid qiblatainy in Seylac pointing two directions Jerusalem and Mecca we are very proud of our Islamic heritage.

I remember a friend of mine telling me at soccer practice his dutch black friends used to make fun of his name Farah they had all dutch real dutch white names but they were black from the West indies and carabeans names given to them during slavery so he said to them you guys have white names. Faraah is a Somali name where ur real name u lost ur culture u were given a new identity by the white man my family name is farah and proud of it they kept quiet ever since

[DayaxJeclee]

lol, the Bantus could argue that Christianity fit well and is the correct and right religion, and were guided by the hand of the All-Mighty.

As for the names, Somali names are slowly being replaced by random Arab names like Aref or Iyaad. I would argue that the phenomenon of arabization is even stronger in Somalia than it is in the diaspora. The civil war has been disastrous for Somali culture, where even our dress has been completely altered in the name of "conservatism". Cultural imperialism funded by petro-dollars is slowly eroding our culture, and I fear we're on the path to becoming the new Sudan in a few generations.

@Khalid, there was no Nigeria prior to colonization. That's what I was trying to get at, it's a just a bunch of random ethnic groups bunched up together by force. Most African countries don't even fit the definition of a nation.

@Abuukar, how are they more pure if you claim to have arrived to Somalia only in the 13th century

Runtaa waaye, hase yeshee ilmahaga geedi, galbeed, gacal miyaad u bixinasaa. si looga hor tago carabayta soomaliya.

[Khalid Ali]

lol, the Bantus could argue that Christianity fit well and is the correct and right religion, and were guided by the hand of the All-Mighty.

As for the names, Somali names are slowly being replaced by random Arab names like Aref or Iyaad. I would argue that the phenomenon of arabization is even stronger in Somalia than it is in the diaspora. The civil war has been disastrous for Somali culture, where even our dress has been completely altered in the name of "conservatism". Cultural imperialism funded by petro-dollars is slowly eroding our culture, and I fear we're on the path to becoming the new Sudan in a few generations.

@Khalid, there was no Nigeria prior to colonization. That's what I was trying to get at, it's a just a bunch of random ethnic groups bunched up together by force. Most African countries don't even fit the definition of a nation.

@Abuukar, how are they more pure if you claim to have arrived to Somalia only in the 13th century

based they turned in to Christianity during colonialism only Ethiopia and Eritrea were christian countries before colonialism they were given that religion Arabs didn't invade or conquer Somalis or Somali territory and they didn't force islam to them. Thats the difference

[ZubeirAwal]

Arabs have been coming in and out of Somalis for centuries, Arabs ruled Zaylac untill the 19th century until it was taken by a Isaaq Somali, its the fact that Aden is 254 miles from the Somali Shores that makes Somalis arabized, Yacni, Mushqool, Mustaqbal and other words are used, in Yemen they call Laxoox , Laxoox thats where northern Somalis got the name from them, but tbh having links to arab is 1000000% Better then having links to Bantus.

[Based]

@Khalid, African peoples disturbingly drop their religions, cultures, languages etc. at the drop of a dime. You'll find an African named Juan, Francois, Abdulhamid, etc. but never an Arab, Englishman, or Frenchman named Bahuko or Faarax. All of Africa has been subjected to cultural imperialism, Somalia is no exception sxb.

@Abuukar

[ZubeirAwal]

@Khalid, African peoples disturbingly drop their religions, cultures, languages etc. at the drop of a dime. You'll find an African named Juan, Francois, Abdulhamid, etc. but never an Arab, Englishman, or Frenchman named Bahuko or Faarax. All of Africa has been subjected to cultural imperialism, Somalia is no exception sxb.

@Abuukar

Why the crackhead face ?

[Shirib]

Based,

In the terms of names, I think there is a major difference.

While Somali's like most Muslims have names of Arabic origin to give themselves a Somali identity. Majority of Somali's with Arabic names are those which are identified as Muslim, and taken by Muslims all over the world whether they be Arab, Somali, Indonesian, Pakistani, Bosnian etc.

On the other hand during colonization of Sub Saharan Africa, the locals were forced to get European names or they wouldn't be allowed to go to school, get jobs, etc. Majority of these people have two names one of their own language and a European name. It was out of force and necessity that they changed their names to European one's.

[Khalid Ali]

@Khalid, African peoples disturbingly drop their religions, cultures, languages etc. at the drop of a dime. You'll find an African named Juan, Francois, Abdulhamid, etc. but never an Arab, Englishman, or Frenchman named Bahuko or Faarax. All of Africa has been subjected to cultural imperialism, Somalia is no exception sxb.

@Abuukar

I speak Somali so does my father and his father and his father and Most Somalis do the same with our religion the culture of the Somalis is islam we have different folkore dances but thats about it the horners have their distinct history religion and languages it was never influenced like it did with the rest of Africa. The Ethiopians and Eritreans say that Christianity came with their said Empires 1700 years ago. Somalis say that they spread islam all over the horn and that their history started with islam the same way Christianity came with the Ethiopian Empire. Thats the difference between us and the rest of Africa.