Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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Perfect_Order wrote:
Sagaashan, your delusional bro, it is fertile lands and rivers that is the basis of growing an economy. Once you can be self-sufficient in your domestic food output, then that opens the door to being an importer, and increased population. Somalia can sustatain a population of 25million by just the Jubba rivers bro. Also, Somaliland only has that many students graduating because their primary and secondarly education is shit, less than 10 % of the youth even attend school bro. And then the unemployment is like 70% for the youth. It's very bleak economic conditions. Also, I believe that more students graduate from higher learning institutions in war-torn Somalia than Somaliland, so if you look at brain capital, then south Somalia has that advantage, not to mention larger density populations.
that is the point, human capital enables you to cultivate, allocate, prioritize, and find more than one way through science and other modern techniques to exploit natural resources. sxb Somalia was dying of hunger and drough though they have the longest coastline, the highest per capita livestock per person, and as you allude to fertile lands that can feed millions. We have the land, we are missing human capital. Even when Somalia was at peace, it imported foods and relied on WFP and other UN agencies to feed its own people. Singapore and other countries attest to how far human capital can take you even when you are living in the desert.

As for the education part, whether its little or nothing, i dont see wanlaweyns graduating in the 100s. but the bigger picture is these people will compete and contest for the jobs of not just Somaliland, but Somalia.
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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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Perfect_Order wrote:Lol @ reducing it to democracies in Africa. Did you not see this topic by Khalid Ali?

viewtopic.php?f=245&t=315504

Out of the 183 economies measured, and remember that there are 193 countries recognized by the UN, Somaliland is on the bottom of the list. Now, I'm not saying that Somalia would rank higher, so calm down. :lol: , and please don't mention livestock one of your largest industries other than remittances, the south just needs a little stability before it puts you out of business. There is only one factory that I'm aware of and that is Coco-Cola. If there is a lead, the question is, can you keep the lead?

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For an unrecognized country being higher than 9 recognized country is impressive "Compared to the 183 economies measured by Doing Business in 2012,
Hargeisa would rank 174 on the ease of doing business". Unless Somalia magically gets a alot of aid from the world back to boost
their economy, i believe Somaliland will keep the lead. The revenues of Somaliland in 2012-2013 is expected to be more than $108 million.
Last i checked the entire coffer of your government was empty. :lol: Reer Somalia are even more corrupt i won't be surprised if the embezzle the
entire funds meant for the reconstruction of their ruined country.


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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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union wrote: I thought you were going to talk about somaliland universes being compared to American high schools.
The very comparison of America to an imaginary state in any level is an insult to America.
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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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This was a very interesting topic at first and it got ruined :down:
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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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Siciid85 wrote:
For an unrecognized country being higher than 9 recognized country is impressive "Compared to the 183 economies measured by Doing Business in 2012,
Hargeisa would rank 174 on the ease of doing business". Unless Somalia magically gets a alot of aid from the world back to boost
their economy, i believe Somaliland will keep the lead. The revenues of Somaliland in 2012-2013 is expected to be more than $108 million.
Last i checked the entire coffer of your government was empty. :lol: Reer Somalia are even more corrupt i won't be surprised if the embezzle the
entire funds meant for the reconstruction of their ruined country.


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even Sesame street earns more

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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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Sagaashan wrote:
Siciid85 wrote:The revenues of Somaliland in 2012-2013 is expected to be more than $108 million.
even Sesame street earns more
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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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So much for "graduates" the entire Gedo region doesn't even have a high school.

SOMALIA: No high school, no hope in Gedo


NAIROBI, 8 September 2010 (IRIN) - Primary school is a dead end for many children in Somalia, particularly in the southwestern Gedo region where many end up jobless, joining a militia, or emigrating.

Years of civil conflict, following decades of colonial neglect, have produced grim educational statistics: nationally, about one in five children of primary school age actually goes to school, according to the UN Children’s Fund (UNICEF). Less than half go on to secondary school, an essential step for those wanting to attend university in the Somali capital, Mogadishu, or in the city of Kismayo.

Until an escalation in clashes between Islamist insurgents and Transitional Federal Government forces in 2009, a high school diploma opened doors in Somalia’s burgeoning telecommunications and other business sectors.

The headmaster of the 500-pupil primary school in the Gedo town of Buur Dhuubo, 480km southwest of Mogadishu, is pessimistic.

“Some of them will finish primary school but they don't have a chance for secondary school here," said Abdi Haji.

In Gedo, a region with more than half a million inhabitants, there is only a single secondary school.

"Most of the boys will stay in the town, return to the countryside, migrate to countries such as Yemen or join a militia," Haji said.

More and more children were dropping out because "they see the ones who have finished school idling on the street. It is unfortunate but after eight years they hit a dead end."

Job opportunities barely exist in Gedo, Haji noted, adding that many youngsters joined armed groups such as the TFG forces, Islamist insurgents or criminal gangs.

One civil society worker who deals with children told IRIN that children in Mogadishu were able to avoid recruiters because schools were more numerous and the city large enough to make encounters with recruiters less common.

“But in a place such as a small town in Gedo, if the child is not in school he would be a prime target for recruitment into armed groups,” he said, asking not to be identified.

“Sometimes the children join these armed groups out of wanting to belong to something and they provide three meals a day,” he added.

According to a UNICEF statement released in May 2010, “recent reports indicate that children as young as nine years of age are being used by multiple armed groups across Somalia, and that some schools are being used as recruitment centres”.

Determined to learn

Despite the lack of opportunity, students in Gedo are keen to continue their education.

"I finished primary school [in Buur Dhuubo] in 2007 and up to now I can't go to secondary school," said Mohamed Farah Dahir, 17. Some of his friends have travelled to Yemen, others have joined militias.

"I have been approached by a militia but I told them I am going off to school in another town," he said.

Kheyro Muhumud Abdullahi's three children have completed primary school but are now idle.

"I don't want my boy to go to Yemen or join a militia or my two girls getting married at an early age," she said, adding that she could not afford to send them to school elsewhere.

Abdullahi said she was hoping "someone will build a school here, so I don't have to worry about my children".

Aden Abdullahi, in Luuq town, told IRIN the problem of uneducated youth is “killing our country".

"Without an educated youth Somalia will never recover," said the deputy head of Luuq primary school. "The choice is the pen or the gun. I want our youngsters to choose the pen and have a decent opportunity for a normal life," he added.

Barlin Mohamed Hashi, 18, completed primary school in 2006 and has been at home since then. "I am at home doing nothing; I am fighting off men who want to marry me."

But she was not ready to get married yet. "I want to continue with my education and become a gynaecologist," she told IRIN. There was a great need for doctors in her community, she said.
http://www.irinnews.org/Report/90425/SO ... pe-in-Gedo
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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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Sagaashan I will excuse for your own ignorance. You can't make an argument based on ignorance, just because you are not aware of Somali graduates doesn't mean there isn't any. Look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_un ... in_Somalia
If each university had just a quarter of the graduates from Somaliland universities, we would still outnumber them :mindblown:
Dude, it is all because of war that we had the famine, but we will not insha'allah not have such a famine ever again. Remember that Somaliland is also in drought and having a small famine.

Siciid, just the revenues of Mogadishu port will be something like 30-40 million, and you are talking about the whole of Somaliland.

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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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Perfect_Order wrote: Siciid, just the revenues of Mogadishu port will be something like 30-40 million, and you are talking about the whole of Somaliland.

That is will be. But the question now is what revenues? last i checked from a TFG source months ago your revenue was about 5 million or something like that what a joke.
I wouldn't be surprised if this shady guy called Saacid Shirdoon embezzles the little revenues collected for his NGO.

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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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Siciid85 wrote:So much for "graduates" the entire Gedo region doesn't even have a high school.

SOMALIA: No high school, no hope in Gedo


NAIROBI, 8 September 2010 (IRIN) - Primary school is a dead end for many children in Somalia, particularly in the southwestern Gedo region where many end up jobless, joining a militia, or emigrating.

Years of civil conflict, following decades of colonial neglect, have produced grim educational statistics: nationally, about one in five children of primary school age actually goes to school, according to the UN Children’s Fund (UNICEF). Less than half go on to secondary school, an essential step for those wanting to attend university in the Somali capital, Mogadishu, or in the city of Kismayo.

Until an escalation in clashes between Islamist insurgents and Transitional Federal Government forces in 2009, a high school diploma opened doors in Somalia’s burgeoning telecommunications and other business sectors.

The headmaster of the 500-pupil primary school in the Gedo town of Buur Dhuubo, 480km southwest of Mogadishu, is pessimistic.

“Some of them will finish primary school but they don't have a chance for secondary school here," said Abdi Haji.

In Gedo, a region with more than half a million inhabitants, there is only a single secondary school.

"Most of the boys will stay in the town, return to the countryside, migrate to countries such as Yemen or join a militia," Haji said.

More and more children were dropping out because "they see the ones who have finished school idling on the street. It is unfortunate but after eight years they hit a dead end."

Job opportunities barely exist in Gedo, Haji noted, adding that many youngsters joined armed groups such as the TFG forces, Islamist insurgents or criminal gangs.

One civil society worker who deals with children told IRIN that children in Mogadishu were able to avoid recruiters because schools were more numerous and the city large enough to make encounters with recruiters less common.

“But in a place such as a small town in Gedo, if the child is not in school he would be a prime target for recruitment into armed groups,” he said, asking not to be identified.

“Sometimes the children join these armed groups out of wanting to belong to something and they provide three meals a day,” he added.

According to a UNICEF statement released in May 2010, “recent reports indicate that children as young as nine years of age are being used by multiple armed groups across Somalia, and that some schools are being used as recruitment centres”.

Determined to learn

Despite the lack of opportunity, students in Gedo are keen to continue their education.

"I finished primary school [in Buur Dhuubo] in 2007 and up to now I can't go to secondary school," said Mohamed Farah Dahir, 17. Some of his friends have travelled to Yemen, others have joined militias.

"I have been approached by a militia but I told them I am going off to school in another town," he said.

Kheyro Muhumud Abdullahi's three children have completed primary school but are now idle.

"I don't want my boy to go to Yemen or join a militia or my two girls getting married at an early age," she said, adding that she could not afford to send them to school elsewhere.

Abdullahi said she was hoping "someone will build a school here, so I don't have to worry about my children".

Aden Abdullahi, in Luuq town, told IRIN the problem of uneducated youth is “killing our country".

"Without an educated youth Somalia will never recover," said the deputy head of Luuq primary school. "The choice is the pen or the gun. I want our youngsters to choose the pen and have a decent opportunity for a normal life," he added.

Barlin Mohamed Hashi, 18, completed primary school in 2006 and has been at home since then. "I am at home doing nothing; I am fighting off men who want to marry me."

But she was not ready to get married yet. "I want to continue with my education and become a gynaecologist," she told IRIN. There was a great need for doctors in her community, she said.
http://www.irinnews.org/Report/90425/SO ... pe-in-Gedo
What's the point of having high schools in somaliland if all you're teaching is imaginary geography???

typical schedule for somaliland freashmen

Period 1: SNM History
Period 2: Faqash Atrocities
Period 3: Elusive recognition theory
Perioid 4: Canceled because of low budget....khat break
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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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union wrote:
What's the point of having high schools in somaliland if all you're teaching is imaginary geography???

typical schedule for somaliland freashmen

Period 1: SNM History
Period 2: Faqash Atrocities
Period 3: Elusive recognition theory
Perioid 4: Canceled because of low budget....khat break
:lol:
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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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It is better than what is teached in the two or three middle schools in Gedo.


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Re: Too many reer waqooyis in xamar

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Siciid85 wrote:
Perfect_Order wrote: Siciid, just the revenues of Mogadishu port will be something like 30-40 million, and you are talking about the whole of Somaliland.

That is will be. But the question now is what revenues? last i checked from a TFG source months ago your revenue was about 5 million or something like that what a joke.
I wouldn't be surprised if this shady guy called Saacid Shirdoon embezzles the little revenues collected for his NGO.

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Siciid the quarterly operating budget of the Xamar govt is $40 million currently :snoop:
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Sagaashan the butt of the Joke is that this is just revenue from the Port, not taxing any other buisnesses, not taxing tele-communications, not including revenue from Puntland, Central Somalia, Southern Somalia, Kismaayo. Then, we have to consider all the hundreds of millions of dollars that will be pumped into this government by International Donors.

What is this idoor on about? He wants to compare Gedo to Somaliland.

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Sagaashan wrote:
union wrote:
What's the point of having high schools in somaliland if all you're teaching is imaginary geography???

typical schedule for somaliland freashmen

Period 1: SNM History
Period 2: Faqash Atrocities
Period 3: Elusive recognition theory
Period 4: Canceled because of low budget....khat break
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