SOMALILAND TO SEEK STATEHOOD VIA LEGAL ARBITRATION.

[JSL3000]

Like I said too many trolls on somaliland section we can't even talk about serious topic without intruders.

Except djiboutian he is very knowledgeable and wadani.

LooL you aren't too smart, are you?

Smh.

No your a pest.

[gurey25]

Listen Gurey , back when I first went there , I used to have a journal , a diary , in which I used to write every night all the things that I have observed and my feelings . They thought I ws a spy working for Ismael Omar Guelleh's secret police they stole my journal and had it translated by a french speaking guy without ever returning it . Their biggest crime is ignorance .One does not let a fool commit suicide just because he doesn't know any better . I am not talking about Kosovo or Darfur , I am talking about the Tuareg , and Biafra, Polisario western Sahara and the Senussis in Lybia , cases that have their legal relevance just as Somaliland , not adding the disparity in the ethnic background for the most part.
Somaliland is going to seek international arbitration , okay , they have to ! My point is don't do it because it the event you lose , you will lose big much more than if you initiate a path to joining a federal Somalia . Now if they win , they win of course But suicide is not an option .

Again you are mixing apples and oranges,
the case of the Tuareg , Biafra are so far from Somaliland, they never existed with a seperate border and as a different entitiy.
The Polisario case matches Somaliland, but are they independent? no? because the Morrocans ignored international law and used force.
I told you before on purely legal terms Somaliland is the strongest case out there.
This is why the Somalia administratioon is going to try very hard to avoid it, and the international community will try to ignore the subject as long as we are quite and dont rock the boat.

The Battle is to get to international arbitration, it will be one hell of a battle.
Winning the arbitration is going to be piss easy..
I expect the SL government to be ignored, and the issue to take a few years to reach the international courts.

and i want to know what other option do you have for us?
Join as a federal state?
are you like the majority of somalis that do not understand federalism?
Without checks and balances enshrined in a constituition, federalism means jack shit,
The government will monoplize all power and defeat all other opponnents due to having access to foriegn funds that can be used to bribe .
Reer Puntland and Jubaland are doomed, they do not understand how fucked they are, they have been outmanouvered.

The situation is far worse than 1961.
For us if we join now we will be screwed allot faster and deeper than the politicians in 1960 ever thought.


Your naivity is very dangerous, and will mean my sons generation will have to fight another war of independence 20 years from now,
an SNM 2.0

Its our job to prevent that.

[Siciid85]

Indeed Gurey

[SahanGalbeed]

Gurey
Biafra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biafra
The tuareg have as a basis a Law passed in the French parliament that were to create what is essentially a tuareg state from 1957 to 1963 with its own cabinet level portfolio once they knew rebellion was brewing in Algeria , the " Ministre du Sahara " "Secretary of Saharan affairs"
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisat ... ahariennes

Keep in mind both were to satisfy French appetite for oil , the French having recognized , armed and equipped the Biafran rebels . Very difficult to implement today for it would leave Nigeria and Algeria without oil .

and i want to know what other option do you have for us?
Join as a federal state?

My other option is not to have a single option , not to put all our eggs in one basket

Without checks and balances enshrined in a constituition, federalism means jack shit,

Federalism in Somalia is being shaped as we speak .Who would better be placed to enshrine the proper mechanism in the said Constitution that would better express your wishes than yourself ?In other words if you're not part of the discussion , how are they supposed to know ?
So far everything I hear is based on fear , 25 years of disengagement and isolation for good reasons perhaps , however I believe it is time for us to revisit that strategy .

The situation is far worse than 1961.
For us if we join now we will be screwed allot faster and deeper than the politicians in 1960 ever thought.

If you think we can be outsmarted or outmaneuvered by the Gov of Somalia {referencing your comment regarding Puntland ,Jubbaland}, I must find it not very candid or sincere at best or lacking any confidence in our abilities

[jalaaludin5]

Oo Sahan ileyn waa Somaliweynist.

But then again duriyada were always known for having diverse opinions and views no matter how strange or unrealistic.

do your thing cuz there id a reason why Allah faraha uuna u wada simin.
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[Xildiiid]

Why are people still entertaining this French loving clown?

Not one Isaaq "Djiboutian" left Djibooty to fight for the SNM but today all of a sudden they're showing "genuine" concerns.

Djibooty ku dara Zoomalia then come talk to us and until you people do that, you're considered hypocrits in our eyes.

[jalaaludin5]

Why are people still entertaining this French loving clown?

Not one Isaaq "Djiboutian" left Djibooty to fight for the SNM but today all of a sudden they're showing "genuine" concerns.

Djibooty ku dara Zoomalia then come talk to us and until you people do that, you're considered hypocrits in our eyes.

True story
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[SahanGalbeed]

Why are people still entertaining this French loving clown?

Not one Isaaq "Djiboutian" left Djibooty to fight for the SNM but today all of a sudden they're showing "genuine" concerns.

Djibooty ku dara Zoomalia then come talk to us and until you people do that, you're considered hypocrits in our eyes.

Actually a couple even died for the SNM , a habar yoonis nephew of nacnac the former Djiboutian cousul in Aden and a cabadalle sacad /sacad muuse whose name I don't recall . Quit a few got also arrested for trying o cross the border . The SNM were not super godly creatures , they were goat herders youngsters who decided to liberate their land , and for anyone that would have opted out somebody else would have taken his place . Kuwan Somaliland diin u noqotay , SNM tu na , some sort of saints ayaad ka mid tahay baan filaya .Before we are Djiboutians we belong to tribes , you nasty little narrow minded individual , ciiyaalnimo waxan ahayn la ma dhex wareegtid meeshan . Maanta aniga SNM idin ka xigoo shaahan dab ka u saari jiruu ina odhan doona e bal daya . Doqon fawqal doqon. If I were of age , SNM tan lagu sheego gebigeeda ba aniga qabsan laha , waxay yihiin baan soo arkay , kuwiinan af ingiirisiga inoo soo bartay maxay kaga duwan yihin

Adigu matalaan , xildiid baad la baxday .Marka aynu u fiirsano , waa "mythical " , waa "unrealistic " ,waayo ninkii xil walba diida , waddaadi Ilaahey ugu talo galay bani aadanka ayuu ka soo hor jeeda . Markaa xaggaad adigu xarago ka raadinayso inu asaalkaagu baddow jaahil ah yahey baad ina tusaysa ma'ogtahay ? Kala danbayn iyo nidaam bay wax weliba leeyihiin , mida ugu horeysa e ragga kala saarta na , xagga somalida , waa nuxurka fikrad waliba ku fadhido . Waxba lagaa heli maayo adiga dhinacaas , iska taw dheh

[SahanGalbeed]

Oo Sahan ileyn waa Somaliweynist.

But then again duriyada were always known for having diverse opinions and views no matter how strange or unrealistic.

do your thing cuz there id a reason why Allah faraha uuna u wada simin.
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Saxiibow , xabashi iyo kikuyu maalin walba ku dul kaadja somali u adkaysan kari mayoo hadeed . Jahwareerka waxa keenay qabyaaladan dawgii Ilaahey ka baxday

[JSL3000]

Until djibouti joins zoomalia these haters can't say shiit, first sacifice your country for the cause.

[JSL3000]

Gurey is right its sad sahan and jalaludin don't understand jack shiit.

[Rambie]

I just noticed, Sahan is the woqoyi equivalent of Sahal80.
So much rubbish and verbal diarrhea in Somali articulated format.

[SahanGalbeed]

I just noticed, Sahan is the woqoyi equivalent of Sahal80.
So much rubbish and verbal diarrhea in Somali articulated format.

I am here to argue a point .
The fact that the somalis were colonized by 2 different European countries doesn't make the outcome that resulted in the natural Union of both any more relevant towards its dissolution than a case for secession claimed by the Igbo in Nigeria or the Tuaregs in the Sahara in regards to their respective countries .
Do you know anything about these people's history habar Jeclo boy ? I don't think so

Believe me my friends , if it were as evident as you all here are convinced , the rest of the world would have seen it

[Rambie]

I just noticed, Sahan is the woqoyi equivalent of Sahal80.
So much rubbish and verbal diarrhea in Somali articulated format.

I am here to argue a point .
The fact that the somalis were colonized by 2 different European countries doesn't make the outcome that resulted in the natural Union of both any more relevant towards its dissolution than a case for secession claimed by the Igbo in Nigeria or the Tuaregs in the Sahara in regards to their respective countries .
Do you know anything about these people's history habar Jeclo boy ? I don't think so

No I don't and couldn't bother you confused french maid.
But since you like to talk out'f your ass, how about you google UAR (United Arab Republic)
It was a voluntary union between Egypt and Syria who were colonized by British and French powers.
The union lasted for about 3 years when Syria withdrew in 1961, smoke that you soft, delicate opera singer half breed.

[SahanGalbeed]

I just noticed, Sahan is the woqoyi equivalent of Sahal80.
So much rubbish and verbal diarrhea in Somali articulated format.

I am here to argue a point .
The fact that the somalis were colonized by 2 different European countries doesn't make the outcome that resulted in the natural Union of both any more relevant towards its dissolution than a case for secession claimed by the Igbo in Nigeria or the Tuaregs in the Sahara in regards to their respective countries .
Do you know anything about these people's history habar Jeclo boy ? I don't think so

No I don't and couldn't bother you confused french maid.
But since you like to talk out'f your ass, how about you google UAR (United Arab Republic)
It was a voluntary union between Egypt and Syria who were colonized by British and French powers.
The union lasted for about 3 years when Syria withdrew in 1961, smoke that you soft, delicate half breed.

Dont go all electronic gangster on me , habar jeclo boy , the parameters of the discussion I was having before you inserted your faggoty ass in it were all placed in Africa . I am not here to debate you , I am just remind you that your opinion of me doesn't mean shit !