Do people still have hope of SL and Somalia uniting

[SuldaanOfSanaag]

I've always said, for me to support a Union between SL & Somalia is if the capital was moved to Hargeisa or anywhere in waqooyiga

[Khalid Ali]

Horta doqon walba la ma ag istaago , nacas walba na looma gogol fidiyo .
Ninkan Emperior khalid cali e Somaliland dadka ugu hanjabaya , hadaanu dagaalki sokeeye dhicin , Somaliland ka ma ba hadleen oo rerihiisu Ethiopia ba dan shalay na isagu u nacamlayn jiray maanta na aw rastaale ninka la yidha halkiisi u galay bay degaan
Isagu Somaliland ku ma dhalan , abihii iyo awoowgii na ku may dhalaan . Waa iska nonsense socda dadkani .
Anigu Somaliland waxaan tageeri jiray oo xita waddanki aan ku dhashay uga baxay , waxay ahayd berigaan qabyaalada ka miisan jiray .
Aad baan u aamisanana maddax banaanida tolkey . Waxaan se laakiin soo ogaaday , markaan de taarikhda ummadaha kale e addun ku nool soo baadhay in , addunku ba iska wada qaba'il isku darsamay yahay . Maanta Keenyatiga iyo xabashiga aynu ka faanno , shirkadaha ugu waaween addunka haddey shiine iyo maraykan ba noqdaan aya maal gashanaya Kenya iyo Ethiopia . Somaliduna , dhallinyartoodi baa badweynta ku dhimanaysa , masuul siyasadeedkoodu na , sida doqonta halkan ku hindhista maalin walba ayay "pissing contest " ku jiraan , "my tribe is better than yours " ba wakhtigi ku dhaafay . Totally primitive and irresponsible . The status quo is neither good for Somaliland or Somalia

Post scriptum: Whiteheartlane , nin iska gob ah baad tahay oo jaajaan kan 26thjune la baxay isku mid ma tihine , Totteham hotspurs sii fican bay uga badsheen stoke city ya ?

hey flower wali maad iga cabsoonaysa man up bana ku iidhi 2 months left isi sheg halkad joogtiid dont hide behind the docter in ur hospital hort french nurse dhibaata ku haysata u are not one of us u are not a somalilander umaaad dhalan wadankan jabuutian fransisi qabi jiray baad tahay we in somaliland say to you falaysa mina anaga naga ma mid aha. maxaad baadhi karta oo aad ogaan karta nigisyada oo kaliya baad baadi goobi karta adigu waxa aad baadhi karta oo aad ogtahay ba iska yar maskaxdada ba looo ma samayn. adigu afeef hore yeelo ama adkeysi dambe somaliland waan ka mamnuucay somaliland iman kartiid kamana hadli kartiid wa sharci Khalid dhigay if u talk about it i will find u i am going to find u maalintad ku qabto waad isku xaaraysa dhakada ku yareynaya jabuuutian xun ba doonaya wadankayga ka hadlo get the fuck out dhiloyahay gaboowday

[Khalid Ali]

We're like 10-15 million in total. Yes, what happened during the kacaan regime was bad but it was not worse than WW 1 and 2. Yet somehow, these cadaans in Europe have found away to coexist and even form a union.

What Sahan said is absolutely right. The people whom we all know as the "French" were in fact several tribes, each with their own dialect. Same with the British, the Germans etc. Most nations in the world used to be tribal at some point. Yet they eventually developed a national identity and moved past petty tribal disputes.

Somalis are more closely related than any of those groups, yet we want to divide ourselves based on the actions of one dictatorial regime.

Anyway, I don't think that SL will ever secede. Eventually, both sides will hopefully come to the realization that something has to be worked out and insha Allah a pragmatic solution will be found.

We do need to learn from the mistakes of the past though. We can't concentrate all power and resources in one place. Maybe a decentralized government could work.

somalis will never be united hatred is to big we are to divided we share little politcally we will never meet eye to eye second somaliland is not seceding does not want to secede somaliland case is not a case for secession but just a country that withdrew from a union somaliland is already independent independence wa wax ku ool ah it is not something in the thin air ama wax la iska samayo..

[Raganimo]

I've always said, for me to support a Union between SL & Somalia is if the capital was moved to Hargeisa or anywhere in waqooyiga

That's unrealistic. Most likely they will eventually agree on SL becoming autonomous.

Eventually, both sides will be forced to negotiate but that's going to take years.

Tbh I see how this is unfair to Somaliland since they are basically forced to sit and wait until FG is ready to negotiate.

[Raganimo]

We're like 10-15 million in total. Yes, what happened during the kacaan regime was bad but it was not worse than WW 1 and 2. Yet somehow, these cadaans in Europe have found away to coexist and even form a union.

What Sahan said is absolutely right. The people whom we all know as the "French" were in fact several tribes, each with their own dialect. Same with the British, the Germans etc. Most nations in the world used to be tribal at some point. Yet they eventually developed a national identity and moved past petty tribal disputes.

Somalis are more closely related than any of those groups, yet we want to divide ourselves based on the actions of one dictatorial regime.

Anyway, I don't think that SL will ever secede. Eventually, both sides will hopefully come to the realization that something has to be worked out and insha Allah a pragmatic solution will be found.

We do need to learn from the mistakes of the past though. We can't concentrate all power and resources in one place. Maybe a decentralized government could work.

somalis will never be united hatred is to big we are to divided we share little politcally we will never meet eye to eye second somaliland is not seceding does not want to secede somaliland case is not a case for secession but just a country that withdrew from a union somaliland is already independent independence wa wax ku ool ah it is not something in the thin air ama wax la iska samayo..

Good luck convincing the international community. Maybe you need another 25 years to finally understand that you're chasing a pipe dream and severely limiting your own potential.

[Khalid Ali]

there wont be any negotations between sl and somalia the talks are dead and will only be re opened ina few years when there are mediators by the way SL is already autonomous so there is nothing the xamar govt can give somaliland nothing they have nothing to offer really hence why somaliland said no talks unless there is an cadaan person mediating between us halkasay tagantahay lol

i think the status quo will be fine we have the berbera deal ethiopia and sl agreed on the post thing office all we need to do is boost our security personal and focus on that and development and we will be fine and make sure Kenya gets the upper hand against somalia and watch from a distance what happens there.Also make sure Alshabaab doesnt get weakend in strength if we keep Amisom and Alshabaab parralel to each other everything will be fine for another 2 or decades things will be secure

[Khalid Ali]

Good luck convincing the international community. Maybe you need another 25 years to finally understand that you're chasing a pipe dream and severely limiting your own potential.

what u dont know is the IC cant force us to be under Mogadishu they know our stance we know theirs we know what Mogadishu wants i think the status quo is fine Independence is Holy for us 25 years 250 years aslong as we are free of Mogadishu we are today and we are happy with it we are happy that we are independent we control our land we control who gets in who gets out this is all what matter the physical independence is more important thatn some recognition , we are winning the war against the walanweyns they know it to

[whitehartlane]

Khalid i am afraid that the longer this status quo remains in place the more and more isaaqs will develop sahangalbeeds way of thinking.. the sooner Mogadishu Baydhabo kismaayo and Garowe work together instead of bickering constantly the sooner the country gets in shape and once that happens more people will turn on their damaged and decades long ago forgotten nationalism.

Khalid neither gaas or siilaanyo or who ever sits on their precious thrones can better my or your life. I am not saying hsm can, there is no question he is even a bigger buffoon however, whomever sits in that villa somalia chair that the world recognises can ultimately make those nationwide changes tht we desperately need.

Even if you did gain independence i dont see how you would be any different from the newly created countries that are more or less in an african quagmire in the sense that they are more concerned about their borders than they are aboit their health care, education and economy. Yes isaaq people are very special people but we are also living in a reality tht i strongly feel that like yourself and nick farage are living in denial and arent looking in a straight line. Yes as a majeerteen we tend to play some stupid games with the southren folks but in all fairness ITS SILLY, IT DOESNT BENEFIT ANYONE OTHER THAN THE CUNT THT WEARS THE TIE.

We are one nation one people and inshallah god willing one day not long from now besides my grandfathers offsprings all other somalis regardless of stupid borders seperating us should be all the same to me including your offsprings...

Together we stand stronger..and alxamdulilah like we have you from your local sub sub tribe we also have people that are closer to my thinking.. such as your own SM cousin tht you are chest beating for.

You want to fight him because he was born in Djibouti?

Do u see how stupid u come accross..
He is a djibouti nurse and al sorts of names
The warsengeli and dhulbahante and the samaroon even worser in your colourful descriptions..
So how long before you seperate the rest of the habraha into donkeys and owls...??


Its silly thinking sxb...pick up a hobby...tottenham is playing tonight

[MayDay777]

There is always hope for unity

[Sauron]

it won't happen.

calaacalka joojiya

[GalliumerianSlayer]

Hawidan own map.

[Khalid Ali]

White there is no such thing as a somali nation its all in ur head saaxib we have survived alone before for 100 years before that the status que is fine we have done great for our selves we have only gained more than we have lost so yu cant tell us that there is something in Mogadishu we want there is nothing there really saaxib mogadishu baydhabo and garowe wont get it right any time soon and if they do what will they do fight us to take us over well feel free i an here in hargeysa and i tell u we are ready for u the day u declare war on us saaxib as for sahan he is a jabuutian he has nothing to do with us he is not a somalilander the country we are talking about does not concern him he cant come to hargeysa he knows it i willl arrest his nurse ass here. so thats why he hides his identity in the united states ur problems are ur problems u solve them it is not our concern what u do with ur hawiye brothers and sisters our concern is somaliland only if u come near us we will deal with u we have nothing against u we dont hate u laakin ilaahay dhulkina ha idin deeqsiyo that is all. we will try to solve our short comings whether it is health and education and poverty we just dont see how the amisom project can help us with that the best way is for u to stay as far as u can from us makes us happy ma fahantay cami kheyr baan ku rajeynaya

[theyuusuf143]

Khalid i am afraid that the longer this status quo remains in place the more and more isaaqs will develop sahangalbeeds way of thinking.. the sooner Mogadishu Baydhabo kismaayo and Garowe work together instead of bickering constantly the sooner the country gets in shape and once that happens more people will turn on their damaged and decades long ago forgotten nationalism.

Khalid neither gaas or siilaanyo or who ever sits on their precious thrones can better my or your life. I am not saying hsm can, there is no question he is even a bigger buffoon however, whomever sits in that villa somalia chair that the world recognises can ultimately make those nationwide changes tht we desperately need.

Even if you did gain independence i dont see how you would be any different from the newly created countries that are more or less in an african quagmire in the sense that they are more concerned about their borders than they are aboit their health care, education and economy. Yes isaaq people are very special people but we are also living in a reality tht i strongly feel that like yourself and nick farage are living in denial and arent looking in a straight line. Yes as a majeerteen we tend to play some stupid games with the southren folks but in all fairness ITS SILLY, IT DOESNT BENEFIT ANYONE OTHER THAN THE CUNT THT WEARS THE TIE.

We are one nation one people and inshallah god willing one day not long from now besides my grandfathers offsprings all other somalis regardless of stupid borders seperating us should be all the same to me including your offsprings...

Together we stand stronger..and alxamdulilah like we have you from your local sub sub tribe we also have people that are closer to my thinking.. such as your own SM cousin tht you are chest beating for.

You want to fight him because he was born in Djibouti?

Do u see how stupid u come accross..
He is a djibouti nurse and al sorts of names
The warsengeli and dhulbahante and the samaroon even worser in your colourful descriptions..
So how long before you seperate the rest of the habraha into donkeys and owls...??


Its silly thinking sxb...pick up a hobby...tottenham is playing tonight

Somalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa hal uu ninkii lahaa dabada hayaa ma kacdo, mid nimadaad noogu baaqaysaan idiinka halaydinka arko.

[whitehartlane]

You survived for 100s of year without a nation because u lived jn the bush and u didnt know no one and no one knew your bush nomadic ass..

This is 2016

I dont think garowe or Mogadishu will figjt you for your degaans if majority isaaq left tomorrow. So i dont know this inevitable war u always on about.

Seriously cuz, there is no one out there in the dark thats looses sleep over isaaqs decision going full ictiraaf mode ...i wouldn't like it but at the end of the day its what the people want tht counts.

Stop going to war, there is nothing zero nada tht we somalis gain from another somalis blood due to to another somalis hands..i strongly urge you to see things from different angles..

[burcaawi14]

You survived for 100s of year without a nation because u lived jn the bush and u didnt know no one and no one knew your bush nomadic ass..

This is 2016

I dont think garowe or Mogadishu will figjt you for your degaans if majority isaaq left tomorrow. So i dont know this inevitable war u always on about.

Seriously cuz, there is no one out there in the dark thats looses sleep over isaaqs decision going full ictiraaf mode ...i wouldn't like it but at the end of the day its what the people want tht counts.

Stop going to war, there is nothing zero nada tht we somalis gain from another somalis blood due to to another somalis hands..i strongly urge you to see things from different angles..

Sxb Somaliland has been independent for the past 25 years and in that short period of time it surpassed anything it had in the 31 year union. Why would we take 3 steps forward only to take 2 steps back? This was a time when nationalism and walaaltinimo was at its peak and what the fok did we gain? Even if we exclude the war against isaaq, there was no real economic benefit in this union. Now when morale is gone, there's no such thing as nationalism in Somali italia and walaaltinimo doesn't exist why on earth would we even jest at the thought of reunification