Northern Harti and Isaaq: Political Enemies

[Sharmarke91]

Any evidence? Beside your Daarood faith that the dervish were your clan?

Do you have any evidence other than what you British masters have written?

[X.Playa]

Any evidence? Beside your Daarood faith that the dervish were your clan?

Do you have any evidence other than what you British masters have written?

Why refuse the evidence of who was who in the dervish camps? Its illogical that the British would lie about the leadership and clan composition of the dervish. It makes no sense at all. It is a silly argument to claim that the British in SL were lying to their own government and the colonial office.

What really bothers you and the likes of balwaran is the fact that what you been fed for over 40 years were nothing but lies thus this crazy argument that the British were lying about leaders of the dervish and its composition.

So in essence what you and your revisionist group are claiming is that Ltd. Swayne lied about tge battle of Fardhidin and it was ogaden and dhulos who were the foot soldiers and not Majeerteen as he stated also the commanders were Dhulbahante and Ogaden not the mullah, nuur , suudi , Qaybdiid Shabeel and his sons as he stated .

My friend your claim is not only desperate but logically pathetic, its obvious Swayne was accurate in his assessment beacuse he was the commander who fought the battle and not Aw Jaamac nor IIdaajaa.and why would Swayne lie to his government about these things? What possible gains Swayne would get from saying the dervish troops were Majeerteen instead of Dhulos?

[Sauron]

oh how I love watching these guys get torn apart and their bed time stories thrown into abyss LOL

quite frankly it's embarrassing to read at times lmao. keep it up X.playa loool

[X.Playa]

You people are very naive. If you believe that anybody would buy your garbage, qouted from the same arrogant occupiers, that was engaged by the Dervishes. As for the English not having clan biases, well I could only say, give me a break, f-king friendly tribes. I want people to remember, there was something called friendly tribes. Cant you find a somewhat credible Somali source to back up ur spirited attempt, to exonerate your ancestors. Your most educated man at the time and your Nationalist poets have either confirmed and given the seal of approval to Awjaamacs narations or reminisced themselves in their poetic lines. Allahayow Darwiishkii. The Sayid wasnt a saint but unlike the International Wahabists, he was a nationalist. Both his friends and foes have attested to his nationalist credentials. He had no agenda beyond Nairobi, which is the border between the Somalis and the Masai

Let me guess what you are saying is your Daarood sources written more then have century after the demise of the dervish ( 1920, 1976) is impartial and non bias clan wise, yet the records of the British empire is bias towards isaaq making the Isaaq the top of dervish hierarchy!!! Why beacuse the British were so pro Isaaq that they made the Isaaq the leaders of then a terror gang called the somali dervish What a bizzare logic.

Are your Daarood that desperate to make such convoluted contradictory and contorted illogical mental gymnastics? Simply beacuse your Kacaan fictitious bias and clannish revisionism is debunked by the historical archives you rather make the silly comical argument then submit to the fact that your historians supported and financed by Afweyne created a falls account to boost your egocentric clan bravado.

[Ben Dover]

yet the records of the British empire is bias towards isaaq making the Isaaq the top of dervish hierarchy!!! Why beacuse the British were so pro Isaaq that they made the Isaaq the leaders of then a terror gang called the somali dervish What a bizzare logic.

Laugh out loud moment walle, their logic is just beyond a parody at this stage.

The British were so pro Isaaq, so much so that British officers lied to their own government and told them Isaaq were terrorists

[X.Playa]

The account of the First battle by McNeill the commanding officer:

Afbakayle 1901

“Early next morning our patrols began coming in at intervals with prisoners, and we heard for the first time of Captain M-Neill’s fight at Sanala, and the accounts they gave us turned out subsequently to be very correct. More patrols were sent out during the course of the morning, and several small skirmishes took place with stray parties of the enemy, and we secured about 20 horses. At I p.m. numerous horsemen were seen by our patrols passing along the open plains to the north, on the far side of the ridge, and evidently making for the central opening to our valley, whilst some 4,000 odd spearmen were heading for the western entrance. As The Camel Corps and Mounted Infantry were sent on ahead, whilst we proceeded with all our transport to cross the afore- mentioned nullah, which consisted of a pre- cipitous descent into a river-bed, and an equally precipitous ascent on the far side. Barely half the column was across this when the Mullah, Sultan Nur, and Hadji Sudi, with some 200 horsemen, appeared through the northern opening to the valley, and wheel- ing into two lines came straight for the rear of our column. We subsequently discovered that they were unaware of our presence, and were making for a pass which was a short cut to the Mullah’s headquarters at Wayla-hed. On their dis- covering us, they immediately turned about and rode straight down the valley, upon which our rearguard fired a volley, but they were too far off for this to have much effect.

Ref: Captain McNeil : In Pursuit if the mad mullah 1903.

[X.Playa]

Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise 1976 and the Daaroodist version:

Afbakayle:

Afbakayle waa goobtii ugu horysay ee dagaal ku dhaxmaray Ingiriis iyo Darawiish 1901,bishii Juun 3dii.
Afbakayle waxuu ahaa bali hilaada 43 mayl laascaanood ujira,baligaa waxaa barigii hore loo yaqaanay Afbakayle hase ahaatee maalinkii dagaalku kadhacay ilaa hada waxaa loo yaqaanaa Haradhiig.

Ciiabada ingiriiska waxaa u qorshaysnaa muda hore in ay kusoo duulaan Daraawiish hasa yeeshee dib bay udhaceen,taana waxaa sabbay xiligii roobka oo dib udhacay,waxayna ka cabsadeen in ciidanka biya-la aani ku dhacdo,arinkaasuna Daraawiish laftirkooda dan buu u ahaa,maxaa yeelay xoola lay bay ahaayeen.

Bishii abriil Sanadkii 1901 ayaa Ingiriisku col sadex madax ah soo saaray,waxaana cidmadiisa abaandoola u ahaa Gashaanle dhexe (Swayne) Waxaa tiradooda ama maamulkoodu u habaysnaayeen siduu sheegay Xoghayihii maamulka Ingriiska dalka Soomaliya Dougls jardine nooca oogu haboon ee loo diyariyo ciidan dulaaya,waxayna ka koob naayeen dhmaan qaaybaha ciidaka.Ciidankaas waxaa tiradiisa lagu sheegay in ay kor udhafayeen 4000,- tira ahaan khilaaf baa kajiree ogoow- .waxaan meesha ka madhanyn madaafiicada noocyadeeda kala duwan, -sidaas waxaa qoray Cabdizuur marzuuq,Awjaamac ,Dr mubaarak waxyaababa haku kala duwanaadeene.

Amin barqa ah sanadkuna yahay 1901 ayaa fooda laysku daray baliga layidhaahdo Haradhiig,sida caadada u ah ninka mujaahidka ah ee ilaahay dartiis udagalamaaya ,waxaa uu rumaysnaa ninka Darwiishka ah in uu laba mid noqdaa,cadawga in laga adkaado oo uu hub wanaagsan kafurto dabadeedna asagoo lib wata goobta u hadho,ama in goobta la dhigo oo ilaahay janadiisa doonto.

Dagaalkii waa bilowday ingiriisku qorigiisii, Girligaanka,ahaa wuxuu saaray buur yar oo Daraawiish korkoda ah ciidankiina afarta jahuu ukala jeediyay.Waxaa la wariyay muda gaban gudaheed in Daraawiishi cadawgii xerada ugu galeen,ayagoo aan cabsi inaba lagu ogayn,dabadeedna Ingiriis kabahaygii ma aragtay ay ka dhacday.Buug layidhaahdo “Taa,ir mina-somah” oy wada qoreen Xaaji Cabdi-raxmaan Sayid iyo Cabdi-sabuur marsuuq waxaa kuyaal in Daraawiish goobtaas 70 lagaga dilay 80 lagaga dhaawacay.

Notice in both Afbakayle and Fardhidin first expedition 1901 Aw Jaamaac completely writes off Isaaq majority dervii commanders off despite the records. Later in his campaign to creat a Dhulbahante hero he invents the boy Ismaaciil mire and makes him the the Mullahs right hand man from as far back as 1899-1904 despite the fact that the boy Mire was in his childhood then and not even a dervish. Mire died around 1961 at the age of 70 which makes him 8-9 years old when these battles were taking place.

[X.Playa]

yet the records of the British empire is bias towards isaaq making the Isaaq the top of dervish hierarchy!!! Why beacuse the British were so pro Isaaq that they made the Isaaq the leaders of then a terror gang called the somali dervish What a bizzare logic.

Laugh out loud moment walle, their logic is just beyond a parody at this stage.

The British were so pro Isaaq, so much so that British officers lied to their own government and told them Isaaq were terrorists

One has to be a mental patient to be Daarood no human being can with straight face defend this myth. These guys have eyes of a cat and stubrness of a donkey.

[Strategic]

anyone read what beesha SNM write? too boring,too lenghty and waste of time.

[26June1960]

anyone read what beesha SNM write? too boring,too lenghty and waste of time.

It's their narrative. You don't need to disrespect it and certainly you don't have to accept it.

[Dhulbahantking]

yet the records of the British empire is bias towards isaaq making the Isaaq the top of dervish hierarchy!!! Why beacuse the British were so pro Isaaq that they made the Isaaq the leaders of then a terror gang called the somali dervish What a bizzare logic.

Laugh out loud moment walle, their logic is just beyond a parody at this stage.

The British were so pro Isaaq, so much so that British officers lied to their own government and told them Isaaq were terrorists

One has to be a mental patient to be Daarood no human being can with straight face defend this myth. These guys have eyes of a cat and stubrness of a donkey.

the sayyid said that the door were mainly christians and british lackeys. Dhulbahante made about 60% of the dervish force and 60% of the top leaderhsip. And u are only making urself look desperate by claiming to be led by a darood(the sayyid). Ur so desperate to be dervishes u would go as far as to lie. its truely saddening. yes the sayyid(a darood) was the lead r of dervishes and king of the low caste doors who even the midgaan said don't claim us as we(midgaans) view u as inferior. They are so langaab they are claiming midgaan as their own. How dar u badmouth dhulbahante most eydoors in hargeisa would bow down and kiss my feet because of my dhulbahntinimo. . They don't who their dad is and king bucur
bacayr(father of idoors) was well documented that he only had daughters not sons. tHIS REER HAV BEN TAKING Ls EVER SINCE BUCUR BACAYR DIED AND WILL ALWAYS BE SUBJECTS OF THE NOBLE DAROOD TRIBE(ESPECIALLY DHULOS).