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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:04 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="Nabeela"] Are you serious???

……your actions decide your fate…Allah gave you a choice…[/quote]
Nabeela,
I'll probably be wasting my time since you seem, and I could be wrong, topic of this nature is beyond your means. I'll give it a try anyways.
Allah has the following characteristics;
1.Free will
2. Omniscience
3. Omnipotence
4. never makes mistakes
Before Allah creates you he ALREADY knows your fate. For your actions to determine your fate is to annul Allah's supposed omniscience. With me so far?
Allah hs the freedom to create who he wants before the moment of creation. He can create ONLY ppl who'll obey him. This is extremely easy for him since he has forsight. But Allah creates ppl destined heaven hell and ppl destined for heaven. He makes the deliberate, volitional decision to create humans he KNOWS will disobey him. Making him unfair God.
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:54 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="Nabeela"]DD
Hey whatever floats your boat dear!![/quote]
Why, then, did you ask to prove Allah's unfairness?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:10 pm
by SomaliLight
[quote]Allah hs the freedom to create who he wants before the moment of creation. He can create ONLY ppl who'll obey him. This is extremely easy for him since he has forsight. But Allah creates ppl destined heaven hell and ppl destined for heaven. He makes the deliberate, volitional decision to create humans he KNOWS will disobey him. Making him unfair God[/quote].
Dhussa, what did you expect? now why would allah create a whole earth with zoombies, how boring that would be for him!!!!! fairness is relative, what seems unfair to you may look like a good deal for allah.
It is interesting the angels question Allah 's motive to create humans. I guess the "I know what you know not." meant that for Allah, human existence would serve as some sort of entertainment!!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:33 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="SomaliLight"] Dhussa, what did you expect? [/quote]
The first 500 years? Nothing. To be fair information to make informed decision was lacking. A 1000 years later, expect modest shift to reasonableness, pragmaticism... which started to take hold in other parts of the world.
But after friggin' 1400+ years, living in time when humans have solved almost ALL diseases and phenomenons once attributed to God, smashed sedan-sized space craft into speeding comet 83 miles away, put man on the moon, invented the internet resulting in unlimited and unbounded freedom of information... I expect ppl to not take this nonsense literally. I expect them not to kill, hate, judge, terrorise, rape, loot in the name of their wacky believes. Least of all I expect them to have the decency, courtesy to keep these self-evidently radio-active and dangerously calamitous believes to themselves and not demand they become law and mode of thinking of the day.
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:48 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="Nabeela"] I'm a well raised, well behaved . But when my eldely(Meaning you, since you are 45)

act younger than me, I have to pause, Contemplate , and ignore.

But seriously, you're not gonna accept anything i say or listen to a reason, so why bother. Besides i have an exam coming up so i have to save my valuable brain cells.[/quote]
I've been well raised as well and have Advanced Organic chem. MidTerm coming up soon. And just get out of 3 hours of extruciating Biochem lab. We all have lifes and noteable history behind us. But when you start an exchange with someone especially asking for something, the honourable thing to do (that is what WELL raised someone with manners) is see it to the end.
It's the mindset you exhibit and share with others more than anything that I'm baffled by.
But never mind, go back to your illustreous life. And thanks for the compliment, being considered 45 is an honour.
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:51 pm
by Mad_Dog206
^^shuddup stupid ehlu-naar...if i were i would make myself a fridge in this earth cuz god knows u gonna wish u had once u go pay before ur lord
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:05 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="Mad_Dog206"]^^shuddup stupid ehlu-naar...if i were i would make myself a fridge in this earth cuz god knows u gonna wish u had once u go pay before ur lord[/quote]
Huuno, maxaa ku hayo maanta?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:07 pm
by Nabeela
DD..waryaa do you practice Buddhism? Just curious!!!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:15 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="Nabeela"]DD..waryaa do you practice Buddhism? Just curious!!![/quote]
No but I took Budhism course couple years ago and ace it. I'm quite familiar with Budhist philosophy and they're atheistic religion (they have no dieties

)
Who can hate the Zen Masters of Japan. Seriously, Budhism rocks!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:15 pm
by SomaliLight
Nabeela, Iam just curious are you one of the awakened?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:15 pm
by Gacalisa
God gives us not only choices, but the brain to think of those choices and choose a path, and with the whole pre-destined hell and heaven, but has the ability to change that destiny, and forgive for ur sins and finally take u to heaven. god also gives us resources, such as the Quran and miracles, so we can believe and have faith God.
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:17 pm
by Nabeela
[quote="SomaliLight"]Nabeela, Iam just curious are you one of the awakened?[/quote]
walaal what is awakened????...I never heard that before

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:21 pm
by SomaliLight
Walale, it just another word for Bhuddism

, i was just wondering if you studied it ro something.
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:25 pm
by Nabeela
why would i study Bhuddism???? i'm a Muslim. Islam is the source of all that has made my life so wonderful and beautiful. without Islam, I am nothing

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:26 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="Gacalisa"]God gives us not only choices, but the brain to think of those choices and choose a path[/quote]
Speak for yourself darling. This precious brain of mine I inhereted from my immediate and distant relatives. But special shoutout must go to:
Sahelanthropus tchadensis
Orrorin tugenensis
Ardipithecus ramidus
Australopithecus anamensis
Australopithecus afarensis
Kenyanthropus platyops
Australopithecus africanus
Australopithecus garhi
Australopithecus aethiopicus
Australopithecus robustus
Australopithecus boisei
Homo habilis
Homo georgicus
Homo erectus
Homo ergaster
Homo antecessor
Homo sapiens
Homo floresiensis
Homo sapiens sapiens
That, roughly speaking of course, is WHERE you and I got our brain from.