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[quote="FULL_MOON"][quote="MAD MAC"]You will notice that we are WAY, WAY, WAY into this thread, and she has yet to post an answer to my question. The reason is, she can't. She has no explanation.
As for me being dogmatic - God damn right I am. I know I am right. Don't believe it, don't think it, I know it.[/quote]
Allow the woman some time she'll eventually come up with a antiphon.
SomalisZz your doing a astonishing job enlightening these kafirs. . . بارك, جعله مقدس, رسم إشار[/quote]
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Barak Allahu feek bro but I can tell you right now I wont be answering any of his questions simply because he has slandered me and he is on my ignore list for-ever, Let him make his own researches if he is sincere about that quiz.
I have not yet seen anyone giving me any evidence that Islam promotes that we should love non-believers. Allah has stated in the quran al kareem clearly that we should not take them as Awliya so how can we obey Allah and Practice Allahs Commandments as so to not take them as awliya and at the same time love them? Am talking out of Islamic view let us keeps us with in this field Insha*Allah
. Abu Idris Al-Khaulani (May Allah had mercy upon him) reported: I once entered the mosque in Damascus. I happened to catch sight of a young man who had bright teeth (i.e., he was always seen smiling). A number of people had gathered around him. When they differed over anything they would refer it to him and act upon his advice. I asked who he was and I was told that he was Mu`adh bin Jabal (May Allah be pleased with him) The next day I hastened to the mosque, but found that he had arrived before me and was busy in performing Salat. I waited until he finished, and then went to him from the front, greeted him with Salam and said to him, "By Allah I love you.'' He asked, "For the sake of Allah?'' I replied, "Yes, for the sake of Allah". He again asked me, "Is it for Allah's sake?'' I replied, "Yes, it is for Allah's sake.'' Then he took hold of my cloak, drew me to himself and said, "Rejoice,! I heard Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying, `Allah, the Exalted, says: My love is due to those who love one another for My sake, meet one another for My sake, visit one another for My sake and spend in charity for My sake". [Malik].
Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "On the Day of Resurrection, Allah, the Exalted, will say: `Where are those who have mutual love for the sake of My Glory? Today I shall shelter them in My Shade when there will be no shade except Mine". [Muslim].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So My quiz is for whoms sake will a muslim love a kafiir
"I have not yet seen anyone giving me any evidence that Islam promotes that we should love non-believers. Allah has stated in the quran al kareem clearly that we should not take them as Awliya so how can we obey Allah and Practice Allahs Commandments as so to not take them as awliya and at the same time love them? Am talking out of Islamic view let us keeps us with in this field Insha*Allah*"
---->Is this girl sick or what? Someone, please, bring here her valiums and Ritaline. She's spitting on the face of Allah and she calls herself muslim! I can't believe. Look at her avatar. She's full of hate.
Somalihater: Islam means peace. Islam has promoted peace along the centuries. Islam has been a civilized, peaceful, respectful, open-minded religion until the wahabists, the nazis and the fascists hijacked it and promoted hate, revenge, victimism and isolation. You have nothing to do with a sufi philosopher, a muslim astronomist nor a muslim scientisc. Instead learning from Al Quran, understanding it, you're just parroting it. I haven't read yet a single post written by you with just ONE single thought coming from your OWN mind. All what you do is quoting, quoting and quoting in a very unarticulate way. You don't elaborate anything. Just copy and paste.
And Mad Mac addressed to you a quite simple, straight question. Your reply is that you don't reply because he's out of your list. Good answer, baby. Is that the way good muslims discuss about issues? "I only discuss with people who say yes to everything that I say?". You know what? You're just looking for being cheered by others who are as nazi as you are. You had here a lot of muslim people who are feeling scandalized by your words, but instead reasoning, instead using the common sense that NOBODY is your enemy because he's non muslim, you're fueling hate, a perverted conception of Islam, a feeling of war instead peace and respect.
I have to remind you that the word Islam comes from the word Salam, peace.
Call your religion whatever you like, but don't call it Islam, because you're insulting that word.
But your avatar speaks for itself.
Thanks god, I'm non muslim, if you were a muslim. I don't belong to your team.
Going to the beach, to see top-less girls and all that which you hate so much.
"Yes I am guilty of hating the hypocrites and the criminals that break the human rights, guilt as charged of hathing!"
-------->Who are you talking about?. Please, elaborate. Are you referring to George Bush, the soldiers of Abu Gharib, Tony Blair? I also hate them. Even Mad Mac probably thinks that Bush is a moron, and that the soldiers of Abu Gharib should be hardly punished by their behaviour. The crimes of a bunch of morons don't make guilty a whole community. As Mad Mac can tell you, I was strongly opposed to the war on Iraq since the very beggining. I consider Bush a war criminal. It doesn't mean I consider guilty or hipocrites more than 200 millions of American citizens. I know some few of them, and I can tell you that they're good people, they also hate Bush and they're nice guys.
Or are you talking about Bin Laden, the terrorists of London, El Cairo, Madrid or New York? Who's breaking the human rights here? As far as I can see, some bunch of guys in both sides are breaking the human rights everywhere and they don't need to be muslim or non muslim to do that. Simplely, it happens everyday. Do I have to judge muslims because of the actions bunch of bastards? If it was the case and I had to apply your own reasoning, millions of muslims in Europe should be deported because ALL OF THEM are potential terrorists. What the hell is your reasoning with "guilty of hating the hypocrites"? Who are the hypocrites here?
Baby, world is not in black and white, nor "we are the goodies and you are the baddies", nor "muslim are ok, non-muslim deserve concentration champs". It doesn't work like this. We had enough of that. Re-read your own words: You hate people even you don't know. You just hide in that generalization of "non muslims", "hypocrites" and "breaking human rights".
The only one against human rights here is you, and only you. You're spreading hate and fueling hate.
That goes against the human rights. At least, in my country, because if you were here, saying what you are saying in internet, believe me, you would have to face a criminal court.
."I don’t hate all Americans I have over 7 million Muslim brothers and sisters thereâ€Â.
2. About Usama ben ladan if he is guiltily of breaking any humans rights then Allah is all just and Allah will take care of him that is “IF†.
3. don’t call me baby that is an insult
4. Who did I generalize?
5. its impossible to have any logical debate with and your army you insult people and you think you can read peoples hearts and you think you know their intentions clearly only Allah knows that and you don’t .
6. if u think I will respect any human who disrespect my religion the you are kidding your self
7.I never disrespect any religion that was sent from Allah that would be a great sin indeed.
"Islam is not a religion you can pick at, and just choose the things that suit you for example polygamy or celebrating Eid. It's a religion that should be embraced wholly"
Hambalayo
And theirin lies its incompatibility with 21st century humanity. Indeed the only way the existence of Isalm can be justified or tolerated is to pick and choose, sift and cleanse not to swallow it whole as Isalmists keep on telling us. It never ceases to amaze me that Muslims claim so often without thinking(religions blunt this vital human activity) that their faith is a "complete life sytsem" or something to that effect as if that Orwellian piece of totality somehow makes it better or sheds positive light on its contents. The contrary is true: Any belief system that claims to be `complete' anything should be treated with extreme caution. this falls in the realms of Goebbel's "total war" or those massage parlours claiming total service - one has to be suspicious, careful about them not jump head-on to embrace them. Nothing humanity does can be controlled from one source and those who tried it had ultimately failed after causing untold mayhem.
Islam was a reform system and the prophet was clearly trying to change things in his society for the better. The ridicolous Harry Potter element of the story was just a cover for Muhammed to gain the authority he needed to push through his reforms. Claiming links with winged flying angels, eccentric sky-gods reachable through flying white mares and spying angels perched on shoulders were the accepted routes through which those seeking power sought legitimcay in their communities during superstitious days. Most so-called "prophets" were nothing but Jewish Kings ie politicians claiming God as their sponsor.
Only once you put these quaint Alice in Wonderland little talltales in their proper context does one discover the real, meaty socio-economic element of Islam(and BTW this applies to all religions). This was a man with a good heart but not perfect by any length of the imagination. His character defects which is most notably typified by his serious pyschosexual problems does impact on his message as seen in the way Islam treats women ie as dangerous sex objects bound to cause `fitnah'(anarchy) at the drop of a hat hence the covering up shutting them down, hiding them, marrying them off etc.
Yet the core of the message is one of care and social equality - no exorbitant interest rates, kindness to animals, peace and brotherhood. Of course his peace and brotherhood was meant between Muslim men only. And here is exactly the kind of issue that needs a little widening of our imginations, of extending the horizons. If an Arab tribal man living 1,500 years in a mad-max, war torn, lawless, murderous, clannnist superstitious little evil community can come up with peace and brotherhood for at least a group of humanity, then surely we can extend that a little to include all mankind, perhaps even all living things?
But of course you can't do that if you wish to swallow the whole story as it was, susperstitions and all. You do that and you end of with mental and intellectual constipation of the kind we see here from people like somalizz et al.
"The Muslims in their mutual love, kindness and compassion are like the human body where when one of its parts is in agony the entire body feels the pain, both in sleeplessness and fever." (Bukhari and Muslim)
"One who helps a fellow Muslim in removing his (or her) difficulty in this world, Allah will remove the former's distress on the Day of Judgement. He who helps to remove the hardship of another, will have his difficulties removed by Allah in this world and in the Hereafter. One who covers the shortcomings of another Muslim, will have his faults covered up in this world and the next by Allah. Allah continues to help a servant so long as he goes on helping his own brother (or sister)." (Muslim)
your doing a astonishing job enlightening these kafirs.
