Shabelle: Farmajo Accepted (Forced) Resignation

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Re: Shabelle: Farmajo Accepted (Forced) Resignation

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udun wrote:
waryaa wrote:now we kno sharif sak is no joke :mrgreen: :mrgreen: it was either the sharif, the president or the PM and the weaker is sent out of the big brother house.

U never know he may bounce back as the next president. I think the UN/Ethiopia hate him though.

I think some hidden forces want to keep somalia n this hiatus state.

Farmaajo's resignation was imposed by UN, Uganda, Ethiopia and other countries who were behind the curtain. Sakiin was just the excuse. The PM that they are talking is someone that is already selected by UN.


Udun,

I think people severely over exaggerate the power of these TFG figures. I think what it ultimately boils down to is Farmaajo could afford to be more principled because He is not dependent on the TFG salary to feed His family. As for the Shareef's though if its not for the TFG, they are probably doing xamaali, its that simple. Most people's reputations get stained in the TFG, but I think Farmaajo is the one Guy who came in with a neat repuation and actually is coming out with a better one.
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Re: Farmajo: I HAVE NOT RESIGNED

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Executive wrote:^ I don't know how this topic become a sticky but this section was full of topics saying that he resigned therefore i decided to post this.

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=277962

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
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Re: Farmajo: I HAVE NOT RESIGNED

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kadarre wrote:
Executive wrote:^ I don't know how this topic become a sticky but this section was full of topics saying that he resigned therefore i decided to post this.

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=277962

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

The mods are on Crack I posted the topic Farmajo: I HAVE NOT RESIGNED, they made it a sticky, someone questioned it 5 min later it was merged to a topic called Farmajo Accepted (Forced) Resignation :lol:
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Re: Farmajo: I HAVE NOT RESIGNED

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kadarre wrote:
Executive wrote:^ I don't know how this topic become a sticky but this section was full of topics saying that he resigned therefore i decided to post this.

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=277962

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:



someone merged the other topic with this one :lol: :up:
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Re: Shabelle: Farmajo Accepted (Forced) Resignation

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It's only fair MODS resign as well if our beloved premier rigns.

buuuuyaaaaaaaaaa.
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Re: Shabelle: Farmajo Accepted (Forced) Resignation

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udun wrote:
Somalian_Boqor wrote:The Kampala accord

AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE TRANSITIONAL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF SOMALIA AND THE SPEAKER OF THE TRANSITIONAL FEDERAL PARLIAMENT OF SOMALIA MADE IN KAMPALA ON 9TH JUNE 2011
(THE KAMPALA ACCORD)

1.Recognizing the Transitional Federal Charter as the basis for the legitimacy of all Transitional Federal Institutions.

1.The President of the Transitional Federal Government and The Speaker of the Transitional Federal Parliament met in Kampala Uganda under the auspices of His Excellency President Yoweri Kaguta Museveni and the facilitation of the Special Representative of the Secretary General of the United Nations Ambassador Augustine P. Mahiga to address the issues and agree the way forward on bringing to an end the transition in a spirit of cooperation and harmony in accordance with the Djibouti Agreement and in line with the Transitional Federal Charter.

1.All parties were cognisant of the counsel from the United Nations Security Council in their meeting of the 25th May 2011 to reach an agreement on ending the transitional phase. Cognisant of the counsel of the ICG Meeting of June 3rd, 2011. Cognisant of the concerns of the Troop Contributing Countries not to squander significant military progress and the readiness by the Regional Heads of State (IGAD and EAC with the participation of the United Nations (UNPOS) and the African Union) to oversee and monitor and guide any agreement by the Transitional Federal Institutions on bringing to an end the Transitional Phase on 20 August, 2011 and thereafter bringing in a new dispensation.

1.The parties meeting in Kampala agreed to the following parameters:

a. We agree to defer elections of the President and the Speaker and his deputies for twelve months after August, 2011 in order to adequately prepare and complete priority transitional tasks.
b. Elections for President and Speaker of Parliament will have to take place prior to August 20, 2012.
c. Within thirty days of the signing of this Agreement, the Prime Minister will resign from his position; and the President will appoint a new Prime Minister.
d. Parliament will endorse the new Prime Minister within 14 days of the submission of the PM Nominee by the Office of the President.

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e. The New Prime Minister will appoint his cabinet within 30 days of his approval and submit it to President.
f. Parliament will endorse the new cabinet within 14 days of the submission of the cabinet list by the Office of the President.
g. While ensuring the new government reflects the 4.5 formula for power sharing. These appointments will be done in the spirit of collaboration and mutual confidence between the leaders of the TFIs in accordance with their respective mandates.
h. All Ministers are to possess the education, experience and integrity to discharge their ministerial duties.
i. The new Government and Parliament will work closely with each other through joint committees and their respective mandates to complete important priority tasks, including on security, Parliamentary reforms, constitution-making process, preparation for elections, and greater political outreach.
j. Both Government and Parliament will endeavour to create an environment to that is conducive to a cooperative working relationship and shall refrain from media recrimination, threats of impeachment of the President, Speaker and two deputy speakers of Parliament, and the dismissal of Parliament.
k. The government should also not be subjected to motions unless that motion has been justified and substantiated with strong evidence of a breach of the TFC.
l. In its oversight role, Parliament should facilitate the smooth functioning of government business in Parliament. Each branch of the TFIs will operate within the confines of its respective mandate to ensure harmonious and complimentary working relations. Government will initiate needed legislation in a timely manner and Parliament shall consider and act on proposed and pending legislation expeditiously.
m. Both Government and Parliament shall work together with the international community to establish a roadmap with benchmarks, timelines and compliance mechanisms for the implementation of the priority task. Details of the mechanisms to be agreed by 20 August 2011.
n. The Heads of State of the Region (IGAD and EAC) shall constitute a Political Bureau with participation of the UN (UNPOS) and the AU, similar to the Burundi Regional Peace Initiative. The Bureau shall oversee and monitor compliance of the TFIs with agreed benchmarks and timelines to implement the transitional tasks and to advance the Somali Peace Process.
o. The international partners and the Regional Bureau reserve the right to evoke appropriate measures with consequences to ensure compliance with the benchmarks and timelines by the TFIs including the application of appropriate sanctions against spoilers.
p. A mid-term review of performance of the TFIs to take place in six months time.

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q. The international community shall undertake commitment to provide timely support for these efforts in line with agreed benchmarks and timelines.
r. The planned Mogadishu Conference will be convened by the TFG and TFP and facilitated by the SRSG to be held at a mutually agreed date as soon as possible.

1.The parties agreed that support for the current military operations and completion of the rebuilding of the Security forces are fundamental to the success of the transitional period and agreed that a reformed Joint Security Committee will sit permanently in Mogadishu.

1.All parties to this agreement should seek the support and reach out to all the Somali stakeholders.

1.All parties to this agreement agreed to the creation of a new Anti-Corruption Commission to safeguard the public wealth.

1.We invite the international community and the regional actors to guarantee this political undertaking. The parties to this agreement will seek the support and reach out to all Somali stakeholders.

1.HE President Yoweri Museveni of Uganda will Guarantee the implementation of this agreement and sign below as a witness.

1.This Agreement will come into effect when signed.

Signed this day 9th June 2011 by:
……………………………………………………………………… ……………………………………………………….
HE Sharif Sheikh Ahmed Hon Shariff Hassan Sheikh Aden
President of the Transitional Federal Government Speaker of the Transitional Federal Parliament
Witnessed by: Witnessed by:
………………………………………………………………………. ………………………………………………………….
H.E. Yoweri Kaguta Museveni Dr Augustine P Mahiga
President of the Republic of Uganda Special Representative of the Secretary General of the United Nations
Wait a minute, the PM's signature is not on this declaration, and he can only be fired by Somali parliament. Did any one hear from PM Farmaajo?
They are holding him hostage. We have reached a new low. :|

The UN is all over it with two press releases and give it international media coverage.
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Re: Shabelle: Farmajo Accepted (Forced) Resignation

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Shirib wrote:
quark wrote:walle we have lost our Sovereignty :down:
really just now? When was the TFG ever sovereign? The sooner we realize that the TFG will not work the sooner we can move on. But we seem to be stuck on a system that's meant to fail. Farmaajo is gone like the rest before him. A new one will be appointed and I can bet you there will be a row and problems within the top leadership before their one year mandate is up.

TFG as an institution is meant to fail, it doesn't matter who's in it.
I co-sign :som: :up:
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Re: Shabelle: Farmajo Accepted (Forced) Resignation

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the Question is , are you people gonna still support the TFG if Farmaajo resigns ?
or you'll be running to the Mucaared camp
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Re: Shabelle: Farmajo Accepted (Forced) Resignation

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udun wrote:
Shirib wrote:
quark wrote:walle we have lost our Sovereignty :down:
really just now? When was the TFG ever sovereign? The sooner we realize that the TFG will not work the sooner we can move on. But we seem to be stuck on a system that's meant to fail. Farmaajo is gone like the rest before him. A new one will be appointed and I can bet you there will be a row and problems within the top leadership before their one year mandate is up.

TFG as an institution is meant to fail, it doesn't matter who's in it.
I co-sign :som: :up:
We need to create a new Government, and tell the U.N to fuck off!!!
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Re: Shabelle: Farmajo Accepted (Forced) Resignation

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Somalian_Boqor wrote:
udun wrote:
Shirib wrote: really just now? When was the TFG ever sovereign? The sooner we realize that the TFG will not work the sooner we can move on. But we seem to be stuck on a system that's meant to fail. Farmaajo is gone like the rest before him. A new one will be appointed and I can bet you there will be a row and problems within the top leadership before their one year mandate is up.

TFG as an institution is meant to fail, it doesn't matter who's in it.
I co-sign :som: :up:
We need to create a new Government, and tell the U.N to fuck off!!!
Boqor, we can create it if we Somalis can fund it. The biggest joke is the Somali parliament also.
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flashbacks:

just for fun (i am one of the mourners too :mrgreen:

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Re: Shabelle: Farmajo Accepted (Forced) Resignation

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Somalian_Boqor wrote:
D-Runner wrote:
quark wrote:walle we have lost our Sovereignty :down:
We have rather given up on it. For the last 20 or so years our nations sovereignty continues to be the least of our concerns and that is precisely because Somalis are more skeptical of each other then they are with foreigners. Nothing close to what the slow Digil and Mirifle kid says if you ask me.

Take Puntland for instance, both the Hawiye dominated TFG and the Isaaq in the northwest want it to fail. It's all about staying on top in Somalia's political arena with all of them and if that isn't realized they will spoil for the one who makes it to the top at all cost as has been played out during Abdullahi Yusuf's presidency.
A/Y proved one thing, Somalia can be taken back and with the right determination and commitment. Spoilers can be sidelined and made irrelevant. To bad old age and illness brought down the Lion of Somalia.
Boqor, after President A/Y told Mesfin and other Ethios to f#ck off and refused to sign those 10-point statements they were running around with, the biggest obstacle became Jendayi Frazer. She was pulling the strings behind the scene and when all others failed, she came to the forefront and after that, it was between her and President A/Y. History will record that A/Y stood tall against the Ethiopians and every one else and finally, the boys with the big necks (UNCLE SAM) was the biggest obstacle to him.
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Re: Shabelle: Farmajo Accepted (Forced) Resignation

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Udun,

AY was a pawn and tool of Ethiopia bro. Lets not try to rewrite history. He got disposed off when it no longer suited Meles and Washington.

As for Sheik Saliid, his time is up. Unlike AY, he won't leave quietly but in a bad way.
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Re: Shabelle: Farmajo Accepted (Forced) Resignation

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Who is the minister of information?
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Niya wrote:Who is the minister of information?

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