SOMALILAND TO SEEK STATEHOOD VIA LEGAL ARBITRATION.

[SahanGalbeed]

Listen to me , habar jeclo boy , life -kaaga ha iga sheekeen , the point is neither you or me here .
The point
1/

The fact that the somalis were colonized by 2 different European countries doesn't make the outcome that resulted in the natural Union of both any more relevant towards its dissolution than a case for secession claimed by the Igbo in Nigeria or the Tuaregs in the Sahara in regards to their respective countries

Somalidu baddow , reer badiiye la gumaysto ayay ahaayeen , hadda saw maad garan .Xoog ama dagaal ku may soo ridan xorriyadooda , labada guumaystaha aha bay 4 maalmood gudaheed uga kala baxay waddanka , ujeedadu na waxay ahayd in labada la isku darooo Somali Republic la asaaso . Haddaba Africa waxa jira , ummado aan isku jinsiyad , dhaqan iyo diin toona wadaagino , kala baxaya oo Somaliland tusaale u qadaan doona , haddi markey ay Somaliland ka codsato International Courts-ka , la siiyo xooriyada iyo gooni isu taaga ay labataanka sannadood ka sugayso addunweynaha iyo Somalia ba .
2/ Arrinta Suriya iyo Masar u dhaxaysa waxad fahmi laa'dahay in Masar maddaxbanaanida ay Suriya ka muujisay iniqilaabka askartaasi ka rideen waddankaas , aynu ku adkaysan oo , kuna sii dhegin waddanka Suriya . That's why mid na Suriya loo yidha maanta , ka kale na Egypt !

Haddey maskaxdaadu intaas garan kari la'dahay , maxaan ku qaban kara anigu , habar jeclo boy ?

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Midow sharci ku dhisan mabuu hirgelin July 1, 1960, markaa sharciyan labada wadan (Somaliland & Zoomalia) may midoobin. Afrikada kalena waxba naga ay gelin, kii tusaale Somaliland ka dhiganaya ha ka dhigto.

Habar jeclo ayey kaaga dhegtey ee ujeedadaada cadeyso..

Addunyada keligaa ku ma noolid , precedent waxa la yidha ayaa loo tix raaca sharciga .Habar Jeclo na , cay ma'aha , waa dad , nin walba na wuxuu yahay baa loogu yeedha e , maxa idinka cadhaysiinaya ? Magaciini xalashaa aha baa idin dhibayoo , waxbaan karbaashaya baad ina leedihiin , iga daaya ciyaarta nimanyahow.

[JSL3000]

^crazy person, qof walan.

[Xildiiid]

Riddle me this,

Somaliland and Zoomalia were (allegedly) constituent states of the same republic (Somali republic) despite the absence of a legal union, who made Zoomalia the sole legitimate representative of Somaliland or the republic itself?

Magaca Habar Jeclo ujeedo ayaad ka leedahaye waxba ha is qarin niyow..

[SahanGalbeed]

Riddle me this,

Somaliland and Zoomalia were (allegedly) constituent states of the same republic (Somali republic) despite the absence of a legal union, who made Zoomalia the sole legitimate representative of Somaliland or the republic itself?

Magaca Habar Jeclo ujeedo ayaad ka leedahaye waxba ha is qarin niyow..

I am not here to argue for Somalia , that's not my place . I can however inform my kinsmen about the impendending unpleasant result that a path to seeking an international arbitration may yield and promote instead a somali solution to a somali problem .
I know my place unlike the rest of you here

[Xildiiid]

So that's all you got to say?

Adeer Djibooty is that way.

[Rambie]

Bal idinku ba eega you can't read somali , don't say I can be bothered
SOMALIA DOESN'T WANNA LET GO OF SOMALILAND WHICH MAKES THE COMPARISON INVALID !!!!
Ilaahow ceeb astur .

No wounder you shit all over your self Sahan, I already told you politics is not your thing.

The military coup that toke over Syria during Abd Nasser leave to Egypt wasn't hostile and indeed
it opened the door for re-union. However it didn't. The Ba'th party quickly defeated Egypt allies in Syria
and declared Syrian republic against Egypt well. Egypt was about to send it's army before their last allies were neutralized. They didn't even change it names 10 years later to 71 because they had hope that Syria may rejoin the union which shows that Egypt didn't let Syria go, but rather forced against it well.

Without any close allies to watch over Syria, Nasser was unaware of the growing unrest of the military. On September 28 a group of officers staged a coup and declared Syria's independence from the UAR. Though the coup leaders were willing to renegotiate a union under terms they felt would put Syria on an equal footing with Egypt, Nasser refused such a compromise. He initially considered sending troops to overthrow the new regime, but chose not to once he was informed that the last of his allies in Syria had been defeated.[22] In speeches that followed the coup, Nasser declared he would never give up his goal of an ultimate Arab union. However he would never again achieve such a tangible victory toward this goal.

"They don't want to let you go" argument doesn'twork you submissive french faggot

[Rambie]

It's really funny and sad at the same time the length Sahan would go to spread
his butt cheeks for Wanlwanes. Khasaroo foqol khasaro french nurse.

[SahanGalbeed]

Bal idinku ba eega you can't read somali , don't say I can be bothered
SOMALIA DOESN'T WANNA LET GO OF SOMALILAND WHICH MAKES THE COMPARISON INVALID !!!!
Ilaahow ceeb astur .

No wounder you shit all over your self Sahan, I already told you politics is not your thing.

The military coup that toke over Syria during Abd Nasser leave to Egypt wasn't hostile and indeed
it opened the door for re-union. However it didn't. The Ba'th party quickly defeated Egypt allies in Syria
and declared Syrian republic against Egypt well. Egypt was about to send it's army before their last allies were neutralized. They didn't even change it names 10 years later to 71 because they had hope that Syria may rejoin the union which shows that Egypt didn't let Syria go, but rather forced against it well.

Without any close allies to watch over Syria, Nasser was unaware of the growing unrest of the military. On September 28 a group of officers staged a coup and declared Syria's independence from the UAR. Though the coup leaders were willing to renegotiate a union under terms they felt would put Syria on an equal footing with Egypt, Nasser refused such a compromise. He initially considered sending troops to overthrow the new regime, but chose not to once he was informed that the last of his allies in Syria had been defeated.[22] In speeches that followed the coup, Nasser declared he would never give up his goal of an ultimate Arab union. However he would never again achieve such a tangible victory toward this goal.

"They don't want to let you go" argument doesn'twork you submissive french faggot

You are on obssessive little cunt , to speak in a language you would understand . You shitted all over yourself , uncivilized baboon , in hopes somebody would come wrestle you in the gutter . Fuc,k off habar jeclo boy , you reason like a donkey !
Technicalities about a coup d'etat are irrelevant in the grander scheme , which makes you comparison irrelevant .Somaliland is seeking legal arbitration , stop derailing the topic

[Django]

^^^This is wat you get when a Djibouti Isaaq is taught about his roots.

Thats the problem with Herico loving foron.

[Rambie]

You are on obssessive little cunt , to speak in a language you would understand . You shitted all over yourself , uncivilized baboon , in hopes somebody would come wrestle you in the gutter . Fuc,k off habar jeclo boy , you reason like a donkey !

I guess you don't have a respond and hence the emotional breakdown, o'well French nurse.

[SahanGalbeed]

^^^This is wat you get when a Djibouti Isaaq is taught about his roots.

Thats the problem with Herico loving foron.

This what happens when you encounter a habar jeclo irascible internet commando , you know the French say " qui se ressemble s'assemble " uuh in english it means :" birds of the same feather flock together ", not surprising to find you here

[Rambie]

The problem is not with me being a HJ, but with the fact that you can't
debate without submitting to emotions like the little french maid you are. Trying to come off
as some sort of intellectual fag with your HJ phobia.



P.S: Did nephew punk you again?

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Sahan you have a right to think for yourself, and freedom of speech inaabti, meeshan dictator ship, snm worshiping, and 1 clan superiority and ideaology bala raba. although I reject southerners mentality, mafia & mooryan culture, of we take everything, clan fiefdoms and xaaq daro. wax ka duwan kuwana mahayan. Until we reach a resolution you have a right to state what you think is right..

[sahal80]

Listen Gurey , back when I first went there , I used to have a journal , a diary , in which I used to write every night all the things that I have observed and my feelings . They thought I ws a spy working for Ismael Omar Guelleh's secret police they stole my journal and had it translated by a french speaking guy without ever returning it . Their biggest crime is ignorance .One does not let a fool commit suicide just because he doesn't know any better . I am not talking about Kosovo or Darfur , I am talking about the Tuareg , and Biafra, Polisario western Sahara and the Senussis in Lybia , cases that have their legal relevance just as Somaliland , not adding the disparity in the ethnic background for the most part.
Somaliland is going to seek international arbitration , okay , they have to ! My point is don't do it because it the event you lose , you will lose big much more than if you initiate a path to joining a federal Somalia . Now if they win , they win of course But suicide is not an option .

Again you are mixing apples and oranges,
the case of the Tuareg , Biafra are so far from Somaliland, they never existed with a seperate border and as a different entitiy.
The Polisario case matches Somaliland, but are they independent? no? because the Morrocans ignored international law and used force.
I told you before on purely legal terms Somaliland is the strongest case out there.
This is why the Somalia administratioon is going to try very hard to avoid it, and the international community will try to ignore the subject as long as we are quite and dont rock the boat.

The Battle is to get to international arbitration, it will be one hell of a battle.
Winning the arbitration is going to be piss easy..
I expect the SL government to be ignored, and the issue to take a few years to reach the international courts.

and i want to know what other option do you have for us?
Join as a federal state?
are you like the majority of somalis that do not understand federalism?
Without checks and balances enshrined in a constituition, federalism means jack shit,
The government will monoplize all power and defeat all other opponnents due to having access to foriegn funds that can be used to bribe .
Reer Puntland and Jubaland are doomed, they do not understand how fucked they are, they have been outmanouvered.

The situation is far worse than 1961.
For us if we join now we will be screwed allot faster and deeper than the politicians in 1960 ever thought.


Your naivity is very dangerous, and will mean my sons generation will have to fight another war of independence 20 years from now,
an SNM 2.0

Its our job to prevent that.

lol westren sahara did not join marocco to begin with rather it was occupied and annexed by its forces after spain walked away this is why the AU recognizes them including somalia and many Arab leftist countries like syria....for this reason marocco is not part of the AU

You can only compare westren sahara to pre-independent djibouti when it was claimed by both somalia and ethiopia...same way it was claimed by marocco and mauriania...as dialect and tribe they r affiliated to the arab of mauritania...spain should have done what France did in djibouti

The only reason why the westren sahara is not recognized by the UN is due to two things: maroccos special relations with the US govt as the first country to recognize America and the Jewish lobby bc of its relations with israel

However the UN does not consider marocco as the representative of the sahrawi people, neither the international court for justice recognizes it as part of marocco

They just don't have hope bc of America and the Jewish so they must accept the moroccan proposal of granting them autonomy

Status of westren sahara
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic ... ern_Sahara

[Togdeer]

Dont go all electronic gangster on me , habar jeclo boy , the parameters of the discussion I was having before you inserted your faggoty ass in it were all placed in Africa . I am not here to debate you , I am just remind you that your opinion of me doesn't mean shit !

So we are only entitled to discuss similar event that happened in Africa?
You know the IC is not confined in Africa, how does that work you abused french maid?
Ironically, just before your laughable reply, you claimed to seek a logical debate/ argument.
Go change your wet bikini you french rape victim, logical arguments are not your thing.

Habar Jeclo boy there should be in what is called a debate , continuity in the discussion ,it is acommon courtesy among civilized people . Now ,all retarded and childish name calling aside , the dissolution of the Union between Syria and Egypt came after a common agreement in which one side agreed to let other one go .Here we don't have one which brings the idea of seeking an international arbitration as the focal point of this thread . You don't even see how dumb you are
Go back to arguing with those of your caliber habar jeclo boy , this is not a popularity contest thread . Trolling in its original form

Habar Jeclo maxaa ku keenay, miya lugu cayay?
Hadal xumuda naga da.