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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:42 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="SoMaLiSiZz"][quote="dhuusa_deer"]Allah said in the quran (I don't remember the ayat and surah):

"those the curse the jews will NOT get my blessing and those the bless the jews will not get my curse"

I wonder what somalisizz aka jihabified muslimah would say about that.[/quote]

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I would say and I am saying >>> bring me the Sorah and the Ayah to back this up Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation[/quote]

that IS what is said in the quran. if I bring you the surah and ayat, will you stop hating the jews?

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:02 pm
by SoMaLiSiZz
I believe in everything my Allah orders me to believe in, now the sorah and the ayah Question

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:17 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="SoMaLiSiZz"]I believe in everything my Allah orders me to believe in, now the sorah and the ayah Question[/quote]

Laughing Laughing Laughing

so you will stop cursing the jews if I get you the ayat and surah? I want confirmation FIRST becuz I really don't remember where in the quran it is and it takes a while to find it. If I'm gonna go through the trouble of finding it, will you endeavor in waste?

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:23 pm
by SoMaLiSiZz
I know u dont have it Rolling Eyes

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:55 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="SoMaLiSiZz"]I know u dont have it Rolling Eyes[/quote]

somalisizz,

Simple yes or no. Will you accept a surah from the quran saying what I wrote above? If Allah says don't curse the jews, will you stop cursing them? just answer the question.

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:41 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
Dhusa
She'll except it. She'll have no choice. She's way too dogmatic to not accept it.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:29 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
So the real question is, can a Muslim man love his non-Muslim wife. And if the answer it yes, doesn't this indicated a contradiction in the Qur'an?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:32 am
by *HannaH*
Why would someone superior,the muslim, love someone inferior to him/her....the kufr? You have to know your worth Confused

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:36 am
by SoMaLiSiZz
Note ;;;; Muslims are allowed to socialize with non-Muslims within limits. Muslims should have good relations with all people of every religion. At school, at work, in the neighborhood, et cetera, a Muslim should be kind and courteous to everyone. Islam teaches its adherents to interact with all people and cooperate for the good and betterment of the whole mankind. Muslims are taught to care for all people regardless of their faith or their opinions. In their relation with non-Muslims, Muslims should be aware of and observe their religious duties.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:36 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
Well then why did the Prophet allow marriage between Muslims and non-Muslims?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:38 am
by SoMaLiSiZz
Islam encourages Muslims to cooperate with everyone regardless of his/her religion or creed in all projects that are virtuous or beneficial to humanity or other creatures of God; so we must cooperate with everyone on projects intended to restore justice, peace and betterment of humans or God's creation. We learn from the sources that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as well as his Companions never stayed away from forging such relations with the non-Muslims. In fact, the Prophet fondly cherished his memories of a pact he had entered during the pre-Islamic times, which was related to siding with the oppressed against the oppressors and restoring the rights of those who have been victimized. His words in this context are almost axiomatic: "If I were to be invited to a similar pact by anyone, I would certainly hasten to join it!" We also learn from his seerah (biography) that he entered into a relationship of mutual cooperation and partnership with the Jews of Madinah. Although later on, they broke their part of the covenant, he never initiated such a breach.

So ask yourself what kind of socialization you are talking about. If it falls in the above category of virtue, piety or even things that are beneficial for worldly and other-worldly considerations, then we are certainly allowed to join in solidarity with them. Allah says, "Cooperate on virtue and God-consciousness and do not cooperate on sin and aggression." (Al-Ma'idah: 2)

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:41 am
by SoMaLiSiZz
If, on the other hand, by socialization you mean joining them in drinking, dancing, or any such activities that are considered unlawful, then we can never do so regardless of whether they are Muslims or non-Muslims. To think that we may do so with Muslims and not with non-Muslims is sheer ignorance, for haram shall remain haram, no matter who practices it, and halal shall remain halal, no matter who practices it.

Then there is yet another type of socialization which also falls under the forbidden or undesirable category. If, for instance, you are a weak Muslim and you are afraid of losing or compromising your values and morals while socializing with the non-Muslims, then you must not do so out of love for preserving your religion intact.

In light of the above, let me conclude by saying: We should consider our actions as well their effects carefully before we embark on them.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:45 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
But can a Muslim man love his kufr wife?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:00 pm
by Hambalayo2
mad mac of course a Muslim man can love his non Muslim wife, of course there are conditions when it comes to the non Muslim he marries, she should be chaste and believing in one God. why didn't someone answer this question sooner?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:01 pm
by LionHeart-112
Because Mad-Mac is not sincere about his questions. He is a trouble maker and a known anti-Muslim/Anti-Somali bastard. Most people prefer to just ignore him.