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[Cumar-Labasuul]

Voltage, I see birds of a feather flock together. You never change do you.

As for murax this sums it up:

I have not read the thread, however Union does not claim to be a wadaad this melo hypocrite does. They cannot be held to the same standard because Union makes it clear He's speaking from His own ra'yi and I can respect that more than somebody who uses deen to justify the killing of Muslims unjustly.

which tranlates to: 'Agree with any marexan in this thread, just to lift the spirits'

[Murax]

Voltage, I see birds of a feather flock together. You never change do you.

As for murax this sums it up:

I have not read the thread, however Union does not claim to be a wadaad this melo hypocrite does. They cannot be held to the same standard because Union makes it clear He's speaking from His own ra'yi and I can respect that more than somebody who uses deen to justify the killing of Muslims unjustly.

which tranlates to: 'Agree with any marexan in this thread, just to lift the spirits'

No offence but Your lot do not like Union for no reason that has to do with Religion. You simply do not like the shots He takes @ Your clan plain and simple, waa qabiil. Abdisamad on the other hand I'll give him the credit that His disdain/dislike for Him by be on principality not qabiil. I don't share any common views with Union espec when it comes to Religion stuff etc but I can at least respect someone who has the balls to say this is who I am and these are My personal views. The likes of Melo who hide behind Religion and the likes of the Somaliland crew who are bitter @ Union for his constant attacks, sorry but I cannot respect or honor that.

[OliveOil]

Seriiously SHUT the FU.CK up runti... all of u

[Murax]

Seriiously SHUT the FU.CK up runti... all of u

Including me?

[ZubeirAwal]

Voltage, I see birds of a feather flock together. You never change do you.

As for murax this sums it up:

I have not read the thread, however Union does not claim to be a wadaad this melo hypocrite does. They cannot be held to the same standard because Union makes it clear He's speaking from His own ra'yi and I can respect that more than somebody who uses deen to justify the killing of Muslims unjustly.

which tranlates to: 'Agree with any marexan in this thread, just to lift the spirits'

No offence but Your lot do not like Union for no reason that has to do with Religion. You simply do not like the shots He takes @ Your clan plain and simple, waa qabiil. Abdisamad on the other hand I'll give him the credit that His disdain/dislike for Him by be on principality not qabiil. I don't share any common views with Union espec when it comes to Religion stuff etc but I can at least respect someone who has the balls to say this is who I am and these are My personal views. The likes of Melo who hide behind Religion and the likes of the Somaliland crew who are bitter @ Union for his constant attacks, sorry but I cannot respect or honor that.

I don't like this union character for his daily urge to insult at my people/women and country, how is that acceptable?

[TheblueNwhite]

Welcome to the new age Somali Internet Wadaad/Hypocrite/Mujaahid/Clannist

[LobsterUnit]

Welcome to the new age Somali Internet Wadaad/Hypocrite/Mujaahid/Clannist

Murax= new age Somali internet Salafi Jadiid/Hypocrite/Clannist?

[melo]

Murax and Voltage, are what you get, when you combine qabiilism and Irjaa (salafiyaa jadiida). Their accusations of clannism against me, is simply a cover, for their own filthy tribalism, and Irjaa. I think its become clear, who on this forum, are actually qabiilists, and who isn't. One person condemns his clan leaders for atrocities they commited. The other group calls their apostate uncle (well he might have repented. i hope he did inshallah) a Muslim, and a good leader, because he built masaajids and never renounced his faith .


I suggest you salafi jadiidi kids, go re-read Albani works on isthilaal and takfir. When you do this, please compare this, to your uncle. Your mind will be blown

[ToughGong]

melo I don't think you can get any clear than what you already posted
It's clear here for all to see, who is going by qabiil and who isn't

The Culemaa state,that Istihlaal is required for those rulers who abandon the Shariica in certain areas, to be declared apostate regimes. That is to say, they have to believe that the law they put into place, is better than the Shariica law. If this is found to be true, then this person will be counciled, and if he does not repent, he will be declared an apostate. This is no different than many other Major sins also. I should note here, is that the Culemaa of previous generations said that this istihlaal precondition only applies to people who reject the Shariica in certain areas,

[Murax]

^^

Yea Shariica is being applied in Non Existiant Land


A German Porn Producer walked free with impunity, after taping in Your lands, perhaps We will find support for that in Sahih Muslim

So have non existiant land which in Your terms is also a 'Apostate regime'

[abdalla11]

Abdalla: This concept of Jihaad being fought for religion, is what Sheikh Umal, and Cumar faaruuq and Co were arguing about in recent times. Umal says that ONLF should not be supported because they have no Islamic agenda. But the other sheikhs, correctly showed, that Jihaad at its core is about defending your rights and your property from oppression. It doesn't always have to be about fighting for Islam in its proper sense. You might be able to do search about what they said back to Umal.

I am aware of the one who is defending his country, the one who´s defending his property and his dignity are all doing Jihad. But what i´ve seen you doing alot is applying a general statement to specific evens that occured. Not a single somali fraction except for Al-Itixad was fighting based on religious grounds. There is no religious justification for what Caydiid did to the poor people of Baidoa nor was there any reason to sneak in at night in Gaalkacyo, the home of the first people who refused the oppression, and kill hundreds of unarmed people. Mujahidin were always welcomed by the people, they're not called Mukulaal Madow

ONLF are fighting against armed army, they didnt starve Eelays to death.

So overthrowing Siyaad was not Justified? Even though he was a tyrant, who left Islam?

You need stop conflating issues, as i said. I am talking about a specific fight. In that regard, they were mujaahiddin. Now did actions later on, remove this title? Yes they did.

The title of Mujaahid is situational. You can be a mujaahid one day, and a mujrim the next day. It is not an absolute term. Similarly, a fight can begin as Jihaad, then turn into an opressive war.

Are you saying that Caydiid fought against the whole regime? He selected his opponents based on clan, he fought against some members of that regime while he left others alone. Kulmiye Afrax was the Head of the Police and he was walking free, there´s a tape of Caydiid and Cumar Carte Qaalib (Isaaq) discussing talking. Cumar Carte was a minister under Siyaad and the examples are many.

Which fight are you talking about? The capture of Mogadishu in jan 1991? Two months laters they attacked another city that had nothing to do with the regime. Never seen mujahidin doing so fast a U-turn and then they started slaughtering each other

Many scholars talked about the fitnah in 1991, including Boqolsoon and Cukaashe but you are the first to label some fractions as Mujahidin. Never did i see such claim.




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Welcome to the new age Somali Internet Wadaad/Hypocrite/Mujaahid/Clannist

lol horta how come this new age wadaado have soft spot for their clan leaders. I remember the idiotic Somali-star and how he use to praise Cumar Jees while using religion

[Murax]

Abdalla11,


Don't waste Your time with these fools by validating them with a response. Allah swt kama xishoodaan iyo xurumaadkiis (Islam). Diinta muqadas u maaha and they will drag diinta in the mud just out of their qabiil sensitivity. They have no xad, and to see diinta Alle in saan lugu ciyaaro just to prove petty cyber points proves the lack of qiimo u diinta agtooda ku leeyahay. The more You engage with Him, the more dulmi and xad gudub He'll make against Islam marka I say don't encourage Him.

[zaahidun]

melo
walaal siyaad danbiyo waaweyn inuu galay waan ognahay , culimada qaar iney xiligaas galeyeen waan ognahay qaarna eey yiraahdeen cilmi dari ayaa u geysay iyo shuuciyada uu ku jiray darteed .siyaad muusan ahayn wadaad diinta yaqaano ama wax ka fahamsan . madaxdana warka iskama sheegaan waa lasoo qoraa hadii uu diin ku salaysan yahay wadadaada ayaa u joogo oo tifatira hadalkiisa kadib ayuu soo jeediyaa marka arinkaas waxaa masuuliyadiisa qaadaya wadaadadii warkaas u ansixiyay .
lakin su'aasha aan kaa rabo waa ma heysaa wadaad yiri siyaad murtad nimo ayuu ku dhintay , adoon ceydiid lasoo boodin .
waa naqaana ceydiid wuxuu galay iyo wuxuu gudayba .

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Murax, and yet you run into this thread just to cheerlead (you and voltage included). This was between union and melo until the cavalry arrived. Furthermore, union is a sick kid whether for diin reasons or for his clear cuqdad however I do not debate with him or at least haven't debated with him in a very long time - if you can find me a recent post of mine where I have debated with him.

[melo]

Cabdalle: You can point out all the mistakes you want, and people do that, with any movement they have a deep distaste for. The reality of the matter however, is that rising up against a tyrant, apostate leader, was jihaad. The mistakes in this process, does not nullify the legitimacy of this struggle.

I'm not sure about Afrax, but Caydiid was trying to win over Qaalib USC eventually did, and you saw Qaalib serve as Cali Mahdi's number 2. Not everyone in that regime were Siyaadists. It was the Siyaadists within the regime, that were targeted.

The more fact that Sheikh Boqolsoon AUN could insult USC within their own territory, calling them murtadiin, is a testament to the space given to the aqwaan post Siyaad.