How come there is no archaeological evidence of Prophet Sulaiman?

[WiredForGood]

Every fraction adds to 1 , if you use fraction then your total sum must equal 1. And the Koran is using fractions. So its bizarre how Muslim argue the sum shouldn't be 1.?

Same thing with porpotion its sum has to equal to 100%. Now since the Koran failed basic mathematics the Muslims are trying to reinvent the wheel.

The Koran divided up an inheritances using fractions and when all the fractions are added the result must be 1 lol but its more then 1 so that's a basic mistake.

And no amount of large copy and paste text will change that math.

Mental gymnastics at its best. Here is someone who refutes these later explanations of the Islamic inheritance law in this link: http://www.studytoanswer.net/islam/funnymath.html

Read it. Water tight. But the problem you can't read the Muslim reply usually is 20 pages long and dances around any issue .

If you are serious about your questions and looking for an answer, then complaining about how long someone writes their reply is useless. Shows your lack of intent to touch the bottom of an issue.

[Xildiiid]

Your "arguments" are NOT worth addressing because you keep regurgitating quotes that don't prove anything. It's the same copy and paste with references to a source that's contradictory.

I guess 'iblees' made you use profanity and ad hominems everytime you couldn't address basic questions about Islam.

- If my arguments are not worth addressing, why write back to me? Simply, ignore me.
- The profanity felt Good saxib. Harmless little insults said in jest. But, if that bothered you, and you want an apology, you get one as a Somali brother.

You could insult whomever you like, I was highlighting the hypocrisy of an individual on his Muslim moral high horse.

You're arguments are not actual arguments but copy and paste followed by your own subjective interpretation of the quotes you posted.

We could have a serious discussion but you're not openminded enough.

[Twist]

Anyone interested, here are detailed debunking of the inheritance issue, where someone takes on both the Koran and the two Islamic jurisprudence schools (Sunnis and Shias) on this matter, and takes them to task: 1, 2, 3, 4

[WiredForGood]

Anyone interested, here are detailed debunking of the inheritance issue, where someone takes on both the Koran and the two Islamic jurisprudence schools (Sunnis and Shias) on this matter, and takes them to task: 1, 2, 3, 4

The name of the website alone disqualifies any content in it. It is obvious that someone who insults Allah will never say anything good and would go to extreme lengths to write anything to justify their bitterness.

So who will read the contents of a website named as such? Not someone looking for comparative religion, or one who wants to find out an interpretation and a study of the Quran. One has to be objective to learn anything or critique anything for them to be respected.

Plus these issues have books written about them. I personally have a huge text written in English that talks about "Inheritance". few verses and sayings of the prophet with an entire text to translate and address these issues.

You guys failed to convince me so far about Islam being unworthy of belief. With this, I am hitting the road until further opportunity I can log in to see what you were up to.

[WiredForGood]

Your "arguments" are NOT worth addressing because you keep regurgitating quotes that don't prove anything. It's the same copy and paste with references to a source that's contradictory.

I guess 'iblees' made you use profanity and ad hominems everytime you couldn't address basic questions about Islam.

- If my arguments are not worth addressing, why write back to me? Simply, ignore me.
- The profanity felt Good saxib. Harmless little insults said in jest. But, if that bothered you, and you want an apology, you get one as a Somali brother.

You could insult whomever you like, I was highlighting the hypocrisy of an individual on his Muslim moral high horse.

You're arguments are not actual arguments but copy and paste followed by your own subjective interpretation of the quotes you posted.

We could have a serious discussion but you're not openminded enough.

Cuqdada iska saar saxib, being a muslim does not mean perfection. No reasonable muslim claims to be perfect and better than others except by deeds. And some atheists and majority of non-Muslims do good with their life and are helpful to other humans. Your deeds and how you deal with others are what people judge you with, ideally speaking.

Islam as a religion is superior for its text, no dispute about that. It is the reason TWIST, XPLAYA and You spend time finding issues with it. People had gone to great length to discredit Islam from its birth, so you are trotting on the beaten path that gave no results.

It is guaranteed you will fail. Keep at it.

[Twist]

Anyone interested, here are detailed debunking of the inheritance issue, where someone takes on both the Koran and the two Islamic jurisprudence schools (Sunnis and Shias) on this matter, and takes them to task: 1, 2, 3, 4

The name of the website alone disqualifies any content in it. It is obvious that someone who insults Allah will never say anything good and would go to extreme lengths to write anything to justify their bitterness.

So who will read the contents of a website named as such? Not someone looking for comparative religion, or one who wants to find out an interpretation and a study of the Quran. One has to be objective to learn anything or critique anything for them to be respected.

Plus these issues have books written about them. I personally have a huge text written in English that talks about "Inheritance". few verses and sayings of the prophet with an entire text to translate and address these issues.

You guys failed to convince me so far about Islam being unworthy of belief. With this, I am hitting the road until further opportunity I can log in to see what you were up to.

It's funny how you like to pick and choose what you respond to, while deliberately ignoring other stuff that challenges your convictions. Though the point was what was discussed in those links and not the name of the link, you use that as an excuse to get out of the hurdle. So what about the other link that I have posted before that, which has a very detailed refutation of both the Sunni & Shia jurisprudence on the inheritance question, and how they sidestep the Koranic inaccuracy of the issue, while coming up with their own interpretation of how to solve the problem?

[X.Playa]

Anyone interested, here are detailed debunking of the inheritance issue, where someone takes on both the Koran and the two Islamic jurisprudence schools (Sunnis and Shias) on this matter, and takes them to task: 1, 2, 3, 4

The name of the website alone disqualifies any content in it. It is obvious that someone who insults Allah will never say anything good and would go to extreme lengths to write anything to justify their bitterness.

So who will read the contents of a website named as such? Not someone looking for comparative religion, or one who wants to find out an interpretation and a study of the Quran. One has to be objective to learn anything or critique anything for them to be respected.

Plus these issues have books written about them. I personally have a huge text written in English that talks about "Inheritance". few verses and sayings of the prophet with an entire text to translate and address these issues.

You guys failed to convince me so far about Islam being unworthy of belief. With this, I am hitting the road until further opportunity I can log in to see what you were up to.

It's funny how you like to pick and choose what you respond to, while deliberately ignoring other stuff that challenges your convictions. Though the point was what was discussed in those links and not the name of the link, you use that as an excuse to get out of the hurdle. So what about the other link that I have posted before that, which has a very detailed refutation of both the Sunni & Shia jurisprudence on the inheritance question, and how they sidestep the Koranic inaccuracy of the issue, while coming up with their own interpretation of how to solve the problem?

Muslim invent their own accommodating math when the Koran makes a simple mathematical error. Here is another example.

"Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in TWO Days And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.

He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it,and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things .To give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR Days in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (Sustenance).

Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience."

So He completed them as seven firmaments in TWO Days, and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command. And We adorned the lower heaven with lights, and (provided it) with guard. Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge. -- Sura 41:9-

A- 2 days to created the earth.
B- 4 days to create mountains and all things on earth.
C- 2 days to created the sky.
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8 days.

Yet Muslim will argue no its 6 days lol.

[Twist]

The name of the website alone disqualifies any content in it. It is obvious that someone who insults Allah will never say anything good and would go to extreme lengths to write anything to justify their bitterness.

So who will read the contents of a website named as such? Not someone looking for comparative religion, or one who wants to find out an interpretation and a study of the Quran. One has to be objective to learn anything or critique anything for them to be respected.

Plus these issues have books written about them. I personally have a huge text written in English that talks about "Inheritance". few verses and sayings of the prophet with an entire text to translate and address these issues.

You guys failed to convince me so far about Islam being unworthy of belief. With this, I am hitting the road until further opportunity I can log in to see what you were up to.

It's funny how you like to pick and choose what you respond to, while deliberately ignoring other stuff that challenges your convictions. Though the point was what was discussed in those links and not the name of the link, you use that as an excuse to get out of the hurdle. So what about the other link that I have posted before that, which has a very detailed refutation of both the Sunni & Shia jurisprudence on the inheritance question, and how they sidestep the Koranic inaccuracy of the issue, while coming up with their own interpretation of how to solve the problem?

Muslim invent their own accommodating math when the Koran makes a simple mathematical error. Here is another example.

"Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in TWO Days And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.

He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it,and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things .To give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR Days in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (Sustenance).

Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience."

So He completed them as seven firmaments in TWO Days, and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command. And We adorned the lower heaven with lights, and (provided it) with guard. Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge. -- Sura 41:9-

A- 2 days to created the earth.
B- 4 days to create mountains and all things on earth.
C- 2 days to created the sky.
=============total=================####
8 days.

Yet Muslim will argue no its 6 days lol.

Even in that previous post I listed several problems in the Koran, and he chose just the one he thought he could get away with by stretching its interpretation, despite the fact the Koran claims that it's clear. Looks like it needs human knowledge and intelligence to fix the mathematical errors that Allah got wrong in his book.

[WiredForGood]

Anyone interested, here are detailed debunking of the inheritance issue, where someone takes on both the Koran and the two Islamic jurisprudence schools (Sunnis and Shias) on this matter, and takes them to task: 1, 2, 3, 4

The name of the website alone disqualifies any content in it. It is obvious that someone who insults Allah will never say anything good and would go to extreme lengths to write anything to justify their bitterness.

So who will read the contents of a website named as such? Not someone looking for comparative religion, or one who wants to find out an interpretation and a study of the Quran. One has to be objective to learn anything or critique anything for them to be respected.

Plus these issues have books written about them. I personally have a huge text written in English that talks about "Inheritance". few verses and sayings of the prophet with an entire text to translate and address these issues.

You guys failed to convince me so far about Islam being unworthy of belief. With this, I am hitting the road until further opportunity I can log in to see what you were up to.

It's funny how you like to pick and choose what you respond to, while deliberately ignoring other stuff that challenges your convictions. Though the point was what was discussed in those links and not the name of the link, you use that as an excuse to get out of the hurdle. So what about the other link that I have posted before that, which has a very detailed refutation of both the Sunni & Shia jurisprudence on the inheritance question, and how they sidestep the Koranic inaccuracy of the issue, while coming up with their own interpretation of how to solve the problem?

There is no sidestepping but using the verses as guidelines with the understanding THAT there is real and relative portions allocated for inheritance among relatives. Also, there is no division of one rule since Muslims are allowed or given permission to write wills as they see just and out of kindness to some of their relatives. So, if the rules were rigid, as you folks would have it, such permissions of writing wills as one sees just/fit would not come into play.

Religion is ease saxib, it is not meant to be hardship and Islam is flexible as long as the fundamental rules are not broken. There are steps to everything.


If you really want to see how biased those websites run their anti-islam propaganda, pay close attention to earth is flat claim they try to foist on Islam. This with Muslims of the past making maps, globes and treating earth as spherical. In fact, Muslims were able to align their mosques to Makkah using their know how of earth's spherical nature from anywhere they settled. Then you have these websites telling us how Islam teaches Earth is flat quoting the Quran out of context. They also quote one translator Jalalyn's opinion who disagreed with the Majority of Muslim scholars on this issue in his tafseer. Muslim scholars uniformly accepted earth is spherical, there is no serious recorded debates among the early Muslims on this issue.


Shooting stars and all you can list as challenges are not that of a challenge. Only in your mind. The arguments you copy and think they are accurate are nothing more than deceitful representation of verses, or because of sheer ignorance.

[WiredForGood]

The name of the website alone disqualifies any content in it. It is obvious that someone who insults Allah will never say anything good and would go to extreme lengths to write anything to justify their bitterness.

So who will read the contents of a website named as such? Not someone looking for comparative religion, or one who wants to find out an interpretation and a study of the Quran. One has to be objective to learn anything or critique anything for them to be respected.

Plus these issues have books written about them. I personally have a huge text written in English that talks about "Inheritance". few verses and sayings of the prophet with an entire text to translate and address these issues.

You guys failed to convince me so far about Islam being unworthy of belief. With this, I am hitting the road until further opportunity I can log in to see what you were up to.

It's funny how you like to pick and choose what you respond to, while deliberately ignoring other stuff that challenges your convictions. Though the point was what was discussed in those links and not the name of the link, you use that as an excuse to get out of the hurdle. So what about the other link that I have posted before that, which has a very detailed refutation of both the Sunni & Shia jurisprudence on the inheritance question, and how they sidestep the Koranic inaccuracy of the issue, while coming up with their own interpretation of how to solve the problem?

Muslim invent their own accommodating math when the Koran makes a simple mathematical error. Here is another example.

"Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in TWO Days And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.

He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it,and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things .To give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR Days in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (Sustenance).

Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience."

So He completed them as seven firmaments in TWO Days, and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command. And We adorned the lower heaven with lights, and (provided it) with guard. Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge. -- Sura 41:9-

A- 2 days to created the earth.
B- 4 days to create mountains and all things on earth.
C- 2 days to created the sky.
=============total=================####
8 days.

Yet Muslim will argue no its 6 days lol.

Sorry to deflate your wagon tires but there are no eight days, only six days. And as usual, people who are criticizing the Quran don't have a clue and lack the mastery of the language. This is why to prove them critics wrong can be done easily. They have no idea what they are talking about. My Katen

This baseless claim of 8 days were addressed by many. Will suffice to quote a traditionalist here:

"There is no contradiction between the time period mentioned in these verses and the other verse which says that it was six days.

In these verses - from Soorah Fussilat - we see that Allaah is telling us that He "created the earth in two Days".

Then He "placed therein (i.e. the earth) firm mountains from above it, and He blessed it, and measured therein its sustenance (for its dwellers)" in four days equal- i.e., in two days that were added to the two days in which He created the earth, so the total is four days. It does not say that the creation of the mountains and the measuring of the sustenance took four days.

Perhaps the confusion which is mentioned in the question stems from this, i.e., from thinking that the four days are added to the two days in which the earth was created, equaling six, and then adding the two days in which the heavens were created ("Then He completed and finished from their creation (as) seven heavens in two Days") - making a total of eight days, not six days. But this confusion can be dispelled by dealing with this mistaken notion. So the earth was created in two days, and the mountains were created and the sustenance measured in two more days which makes a total of four, i.e., this took the other two days. Then the creation of the seven heavens took two days. So the total is six days of the Days of Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted.

The mufassireen commented on this fact which deals with the mistaken notion. Al-Qurtubi said:

"in four days" - this is like someone saying, "I set out from Basra to Baghdad in ten days and to Kufa in fifteen days, i.e., a total time of fifteen days." (al-Jaami' li Ahkaam al-Qur'aan, vol. 15, p. 343).

Al-Baghawi said: "in four days" means the creation of what is in the earth. The measuring of the sustenance was on Tuesday and Wednesday, which along with Sunday and Monday add up to four days. This is like saying "I married a woman yesterday and today I married two" - one of whom is the woman whom he married the day before.

Tafseer al-Baghawi, 7/165

Al-Zajjaaj said: "in four days" means two days added to the previous two days.

Al-Kashshaaf, vol. 3, p. 444

These verses - from Soorah Fussilat - confirm the other verse, which says that the creation of the heavens and the earth was completed in six days. So there is no contradiction concerning the period in which Allaah created the heavens and the earth. There cannot be any such contradictions in the Qur'aan."


A complete rebuttal of this, see this page below.

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/six_o ... s_creation__

[X.Playa]

I don't need to read people who are deliberately dismissing the obvious for damage control.

The language is not obscure nor does it need a bearded wizard to convince us its 6 days and not 8.

Even the analogy of Basra travel is silly. If as these guys claim their Allah meant by 4 days he included the 2 days for the creation of earth then why he didn't just divided his math into 2 and 2 and 2 ? No the text is obvious the 4 days are totally unrelated to the two days for the earth's creation even the text exactly explains what was created and that is everything on the face of earth from mountains to rivers to nourishmenuts separate from the earth creation which he did in 2 days.

[Basra-]

X

Why r u obsessed with me? And what is this talk of 6 days or 8 days??? The world was created in 7 days. The # 7 is very prominent in Islam. 7 days the world was created, the 7 heaves, 7 days of the week, etc etc etc

[theologain]

Even Allah clearly states All Over The Furqan
Indeed, your Lord is Allaah, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then He rose over (Istawa) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty)”

[al-A’raaf 7:54]

And indeed We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six Days and nothing of fatigue touched Us”[Qaaf 50:38]

Say (O Muhammad): ‘Do you verily disbelieve in Him Who created the earth in two Days? And you set up rivals (in worship) with Him? That is the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists).

He placed therein (i.e. the earth) firm mountains from above it, and He blessed it, and measured therein its sustenance (for its dwellers) in four Days equal (i.e. all these four ‘days’ were equal in the length of time) for all those who ask (about its creation).

Then He rose over (Istawa) towards the heaven when it was smoke, and said to it and to the earth: ‘Come both of you willingly or unwillingly.’ They both said: ‘We come willingly.’

Then He completed and finished from their creation (as) seven heavens in two Days and He made in each heaven its affair. And We adorned the nearest (lowest) heaven with lamps (stars) to be an adornment as well as to guard (from the devils by using them as missiles against the devils). Such is the Decree of Him, the All-Mighty, the All-Knower”[Fussilat 41:9-12]

It is Allah who created the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them in six days; then He established Himself above the Throne. You have not besides Him any protector or any intercessor; so will you not be reminded?
Surah Sajdah ayah 4

and more like Surah Yusuf

[Basra-]

theo


Then why have I been hearing 7 days????

[theologain]

theo


Then why have I been hearing 7 days????

Seven days is what the JEWS AND CHRISTIANS SAY.
open genesis or Bereishit that what you will find.