Somalis are not ethnically the same....

[Ashlee]

Horrible blog. Trying to pass off Maps of where the Marehan clan lived (at different periods of time) as all-inclusive "historical Somali maps" is very dishonest.

P.s. - The reference area needs a lot of work.

[Shilling]

Voltage,

Lets not forget that you were the one who got of topic to make a whole clan nothing but scouts while yours were all about gods word; your talking about a region which Arabs had influenced in the 9th century, this fact alone dismisses the claim about your ilk coming over the Jubba Area to spread Islam in the 19 century which was just yesterday. So let's be careful with your distortions sxb.

About that sadeblog, well, lets just say this is who comes to mind when I think of it:

[The_Emperior5]

voltage where did you get all these historical documents

[FAH1223]

So Emperior is right in asking such a profound question. However, he asked the wrong question. It is not whether the Somali people are of the same ethnic identity, which they are, but whether we can reform our clan system to accept state fealty and loyalty above our clan. The question is whether we can look past our clan and give loyalty to the ethnic group that does exist and is there but is weakened by the power of segmentary lineage groups who have evolved out of necessity to survive in our desert, inhospitable environment.!

Warya khalid, this is the problem.

[gedo_gurl]

Emperior, doesnt your college have Jstor?

Somalis are the friggin same....we should take a leaf out of Mwalimu Julius Nyerere, his speech on qabiil made me cry. We will never EVER develop and get out of war unless we get together and stop seeing one another as the 'Other' when we are all the fu.cking same...This is the kind of thing that makes people on the outside think we are savages. If we dont quit, I swear I would be more than happy (if I ever had the power) to give this country to the Jews and alleviate the Palestinians from their problems.

[The_Emperior5]

So Emperior is right in asking such a profound question. However, he asked the wrong question. It is not whether the Somali people are of the same ethnic identity, which they are, but whether we can reform our clan system to accept state fealty and loyalty above our clan. The question is whether we can look past our clan and give loyalty to the ethnic group that does exist and is there but is weakened by the power of segmentary lineage groups who have evolved out of necessity to survive in our desert, inhospitable environment.!

Warya khalid, this is the problem.

but the thing is wheter we call it ethnic group clan qabil tribe reerro the problem will still be there this only magac ta labaad they say Bantu are not somali why because they loook different issent bantu related to kushetic wassent it
ina xam iyo ina sam uu walaalo aah xam na Kussh buu sii dhalay marka Bantugu adeer bay uu yihin somalida haday kushetic yihin

[surrender]

who said we have to unite? we dont! all we need to do is stop killing each other, but we dont have to unite if we dont want to. 'laa yukalifullahu nafsan ilaa wusicahaa' each qabil can have its own land and yet live peacefully among one another!!!


(ps: FAH i never said i hate hawiye, i just said thats what the book said-personally speaking i have nothing against any qabiil. infact i think i was the first person in here to admit that somalis need to pass the qabiil thing and if they going to unite, qabiil needs to die. for good. there is not other option. religion v qabil. we have to chose and asap it seems our country is not moving farward!!!)

[The_Emperior5]

Surrender look at you when you first join snet kitaab weyn baad siidatay quraan iyo hadith baad ka sheekeyn jiirtay
Somalinet made u ultra orthodox Qabiliste

inan fiican baad ahayd laakn gadaal gadaal ayaad jabarti ka noqotay

[Enlightened~Sista]

qabiil needs to die.

ouch

[FAH1223]

but the thing is wheter we call it ethnic group clan qabil tribe reerro the problem will still be there this only magac ta labaad they say Bantu are not somali why because they loook different issent bantu related to kushetic wassent it
ina xam iyo ina sam uu walaalo aah xam na Kussh buu sii dhalay marka Bantugu adeer bay uu yihin somalida haday kushetic yihin

LOL...we all come from one man at the end of the day.

However Bantu is not Somali. It is well known they adopted our culture and language when they were moved to Somalia and areas with huge Somali population. Their origin is pretty clear.

[Hyperactive]

voltage got some very intresting documents deserve reading.
i've never cared where my somali side came from.
i know my father was born in harar and grandfather from that area.
end of the story for me.

[Basra-]

Is there a word that describes a passionate love for one's qabil?Megalomania maybe? Thats Voltage and his love for Marehaan! Shilling dont waste your energy!

[Enlightened~Sista]

..seriously people from the south some of them atleast dont look like your average somali..

look at the video of the hawiyes posted..they look like any african to me. There is a possibility that they have intermarried with negroid africans.

[Basra-]

[quote="Enlightened~Sista"]..seriously people from the south some of them atleast dont look like your average somali..

look at the video of the hawiyes posted..they look like any african to me. There is a possibility that they have intermarried with negroid africans.[/quote]


Unelightened sista, shuruup! I am the ONLY one permitted to make fun of the hawiya! uskut billa diibshinin!

[The_Emperior5]

but the thing is wheter we call it ethnic group clan qabil tribe reerro the problem will still be there this only magac ta labaad they say Bantu are not somali why because they loook different issent bantu related to kushetic wassent it
ina xam iyo ina sam uu walaalo aah xam na Kussh buu sii dhalay marka Bantugu adeer bay uu yihin somalida haday kushetic yihin

LOL...we all come from one man at the end of the day.

However Bantu is not Somali. It is well known they adopted our culture and language when they were moved to Somalia and areas with huge Somali population. Their origin is pretty clear.

Somali qabiilo ama af ama reerro issu taggay u know hall meel horta kama soo jeeddan whether it is 1000 years ago or 2000 years ago , but the thing is we dont consider bantu somali becous they look diffrent then the rest , but thats not how it should be inta kalle aya ba assalkooda la hubbin marka who are we to say who is somali and who is not just becous they look diffrent . Its like tigray and amhara and oromo oromo just look like a tigray laakin isku Ummad iyo qawma maha even though they might have been related and just some of the northeren chief adopted the geez schrip and Oromo and affars kept the Afroassaitic language. One thing is for shure no one can say for Hundred procent sure what somalis are and where they came from but there are just Speculation theorys