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We've hit a brick wall, we can't finish the Ogaden conversation until you post a quote from the Cuban administration outlining their plans in the Ogaden region.
Are you afraid to discuss the painful memory of 5000 young Cuban men and women being slaughtered by a rag-tag Eritrean militia?luis1 wrote:This topic is about Ogaden War not Eritrean.
I only answer questions about such war,when we finish this conversation we may talk about the another one.
I dont have to post anything else.We've hit a brick wall, we can't finish the Ogaden conversation until you post a quote from the Cuban administration outlining their plans in the Ogaden region
I am afraid because you have not prove me you are a serious historian,when you give a source when can talk about the another war.Are you afraid to discuss the painful memory of 5000 young Cuban men and women being slaughtered by a rag-tag Eritrean militia
I only say we obeyed soviets orders and we destroyed Somali Army adn WSLF,that is all.Fair enough. We will finish this conversation when you post the Cuban administrations aims in Ogaden, something you've failed to provide on 11 occasions.
You won't, or you can't?luis1 wrote:I dont have to post anything else.
If you call losing 400 men at the behests of your master who forced you to be a pawn for him a continent away a 'victory', sureWe defeated Somalia and you can not prove I am wrong,I am still waiting for your sources.
That proves Somalia didn't accomplish their original aim, nothing else.I only show you the reality:Ogaden still belongs to Ethiopia.
You assumed I was referring to the war, when in reality you're original statement made it sound like you were arguing that Cuba's actions saved the Derg regime, which was false, since a few years later it was overthrown.you said cubans didnt save Mengistu:I sent to you an article and a video which support me.
Agreed.Final Outcome:I lose,because I don't have any sources to prove I am right.
No, I'll give you one more chance, we're into double figures now. Show me a direct quote outlining Cuba's aims in the Ogaden region.I give you a last chance,bring me a source of the victory.
Agreed.luis1 wrote:
I am afraid
Quote where I've stated Cuba suffered a defeat or concede to being a liarBring me the source or article of cuban defeat in 1978.
But at the beginning of this thread you stated that a victory is measured by whether or not you completed your objectives, I've asked you for Cuba's objectives and you're still unable to post themI only say we obeyed soviets orders and we destroyed Somali Army adn WSLF,that is all.
You accept that you're wrong? GoodI accept it.
You are not matchYou won't, or you can't?
Well to me is a victory,defeating Somali Army and WSLF on the field and nobody can deny it.On the military field we won,that is the important.If you call losing 400 men at the behests of your master who forced you to be a pawn for him a continent away a 'victory', sure
At least Siad Barre failed accomplish them and he signed a peace in 1988,he resigned Ogaden claims.Until 2006 Somalia was not a threat to ethiopia because its civil war in fact many warlords supported Ethiopia those times.That proves Somalia didn't accomplish their original aim, nothing else
.If you're referring to the Ogaden war, Cuba did save Ethiopia
We were to serve Russia and we defeated our enemy,that all.No, I'll give you one more chance, we're into double figures now. Show me a direct quote outlining Cuba's aims in the Ogaden region.
For the 14th time, prove itluis1 wrote:the cubans goals were expelled SNA and WSLF from Ogaden and they did it.
Dont you see the reality my pathetic army and insurgency was defeated and expelled from Eritrea after 5000 of us were massacred.[/quote
Agreed
Following Moscow's decision to support Addis Ababa, Ethiopia received massive amounts of Soviet arms. Along with Soviet military advisers, about 15,000 Cuban combat troops also arrived. By early 1978, this aid had turned the tide of war in Ethiopia's favor. By March 9, 1978, when Siad Barre announced the withdrawal of the Somali armed forces from the Ogaden, the Somali military had lost 8,000 men--one-third of the SNA, three-quarters of its armored units, and half of the Somali Air Force (SAF).
For all intents and purposes, Ethiopia's victory during the Ogaden War ended Mogadishu's dream of recreating Greater Somalia.
Nomad:If the war was a stalemate show your sources of such outcome is very easy.
