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Based wrote:Lol, you're really hung up on the so far unsubstantiated idea of T being introduced at a later time than E-v32 when some studies I've read suggest the latter iirc.

Coupled with the fact that the highest frequencies are found specifically in the Horn, I'm baffled as to where you get this idea that T carriers miraculously became Cushitic speaking Somalis.

If anything, our mtdna is where any real "diversity" exists.

zumaale wrote:Mate, do you want a rerun of the previous threads?

Post a thread where I have stated it was introduced at a later time? All I have stated is that no one knows and for all I know we could have arrived earlier than the E3b carrying Cushites. If I was to act on my bias sentiments, I would have asserted we arrived at the Horn before you lot but unlike you I don't open my mouth or make assumptions which are not backed by hard evidence.

Post a study that states they arrived at the Horn at the same? No more conjecture or bullshit!

I have consistently argued not enough research has been done on my haplogroup in Somalia and we both know that.

Xeno wrote:

zumaale wrote:Mate, do you want a rerun of the previous threads?

Post a thread where I have stated it was introduced at a later time? All I have stated is that no one knows and for all I know we could have arrived earlier than the E3b carrying Cushites. If I was to act on my bias sentiments, I would have asserted we arrived at the Horn before you lot but unlike you I don't open my mouth or make assumptions which are not backed by hard evidence.

Post a study that states they arrived at the Horn at the same? No more conjecture or bullshit!

I have consistently argued not enough research has been done on my haplogroup in Somalia and we both know that.

South Cushitic people that left Ethiopia 5000 years ago have haplogroup T.
T people in the Horn always spoke a Cushitic language.

zumaale wrote:The Iraqw and other South Cushitic people have neglibile amounts of haplogroup T and where is it stated they left the Horn 5000 years ago? Furthermore, what subclade of haplogroup T do they have? More importantly, haplogroup T is found further south in Zambia among the Bantu speaking Lemba, did they always speak a Bantu Language considering that their T and J haplogroups are unique to Jews and their oral history attests to their Semitic roots? Your reasoning is deficient if you think that the subclade of haplogroup T that we possess is anything like the one of the South Cushites without an analysis being conducted. Like I have often stated, reserve all assumptions until more research is conducted on Somali haplogroup T.

I do not know when or how we ended sharing an identity with E3b Somalis nor do any of you so spare me the bullshit conjecture and come with facts next time you address me.

Xeno wrote:

zumaale wrote:The Iraqw and other South Cushitic people have neglibile amounts of haplogroup T and where is it stated they left the Horn 5000 years ago? Furthermore, what subclade of haplogroup T do they have? More importantly, haplogroup T is found further south in Zambia among the Bantu speaking Lemba, did they always speak a Bantu Language considering that their T and J haplogroups are unique to Jews and their oral history attests to their Semitic roots? Your reasoning is deficient if you think that the subclade of haplogroup T that we possess is anything like the one of the South Cushites without an analysis being conducted. Like I have often stated, reserve all assumptions until more research is conducted on Somali haplogroup T.

p.s. the links you provided are incomplete in that they do not specify the assertion you made. post a better link.

I do not know when or how we ended sharing an identity with E3b Somalis nor do any of you so spare me the bullshit conjecture and come with facts next time you address me.

How is 10% negligible? It is around 10% in many of them in a clear nontrivial pattern.
The Akie tribe even has 23%. They are Maasai now, but anthropologist view them as Aasax (SC) language shifters.

According to professor Ehret and Tishkoff, South Cushitic populations have not received any new input from the Horn since their departure 5000 years ago.

http://www.med.upenn.edu/tishkoff/Resea ... earch.html
http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/history/ehret/

zumaale wrote:You are hypothesising by extrapolating data from this study to make assumptions about Somali T haplogroup carriers. I highlighted to you how the presence of haplogroup South of the Horn is not an indicator of it being automatically linked to Cushitic populations. It's presence in places as far afield as Zambia and among the Fulanis perfectly illustrates this.

Bring a research paper that has scanned Somali T haplogroup carriers and established which T carrying population they are closely related to? You obviously cannot and until then, you are coming with bullshit conjecture. I repeat if the haplogroup T that is found among the Lemba could have no relations with any T carrying population in East/North Africa, anything is possible.

p.s Post a better link because those you provided do not directly support the statements you made.

Xeno wrote:

zumaale wrote:You are hypothesising by extrapolating data from this study to make assumptions about Somali T haplogroup carriers. I highlighted to you how the presence of haplogroup South of the Horn is not an indicator of it being automatically linked to Cushitic populations. It's presence in places as far afield as Zambia and among the Fulanis perfectly illustrates this.

Bring a research paper that has scanned Somali T haplogroup carriers and established which T carrying population they are closely related to? You obviously cannot and until then, you are coming with bullshit conjecture. I repeat if the haplogroup T that is found among the Lemba could have no relations with any T carrying population in East/North Africa, anything is possible.

p.s Post a better link because those you provided do not directly support the statements you made.

Nobody is going to research that as it is not an important research subject.

Dyingofshame15 wrote:I had to reply to this thread seeing as my tribe is being dragged through the mud by this qalanjo zumaale. I'm qubeys, and both my parents are qubeys, we are first and foremost SOMALI from SOMALIA. Surre has nothing to do with Arabia, our brothers are Hawiya as they too are irir samaale. No one in my family nor does ANY surre claim Arabia.

GIJaamac wrote:

FarhanYare wrote:Am inbred as they come. All my cousins are my laf, laf, laf, laf, laf, laf, laf, laf of ..... hg

No wonder you're so dumb. Ileen you're a product of hundreds of years of inbreeding.