Somalis leaving Islam

[Shirib]

^^^^^^
The Somali who believes in LA ILLAHA ILLALLAH and does all the dambi is better then the good Somali Athiest.

The worst Muslim is better then a noble kaffir.

FAH read the last post on the istun post I cleared things up.

[FAH1223]

[quote="Twisted_Logic"][quote="FAH1223"][quote="AbdiWahab252"]I know several Somali Christians, an aethist and a Somali Buddhist.[/quote]

You're lying[/quote]

if he was lyin will you know it? 8)[/quote]

its AW...duh

[sadeboi]

Fah, shirib, and co.

Do not attack the people. That will not help no one.

Ican, I have more respect for an atheist who left the religion because of "flaws" in it, then a muslim who does not practice the religion nor knows why he is a Muslim.


Twisted, walaal would you like to exchange those views and try to understand our different beliefs?

[Shirib]

Sade Boi

A Muslim who believes in La Illaha IllAllah Muhamad RasulluAllah and does dambi is better then a person who is good other wise and doesn't believe in Allah.

The worst sin is NOT BELIEVING IN ALLAH.

Islam has no "flaws" Muslims do but Islam has no "flaws".

When did I attack people???

[El Loco]

"think this is a scary issue that can not be ignored

I think there are a couple of apostates on this forum too"

There is no compulsion in religion.

[Luq_Ganane]

Ican,

If somebody believes in Allah then there is a chance for him to be forgiven of sins like drinking, adultury and other major ones. However if you leave the religion or are an aithest, you can be the best human in the world and you still WILL NOT ever go to paradise. Theres a Hadith that says very clearly 'Only believers will go to paradise' and also an Ayah that says 'Allah does not forgive anybody who associates anybody with him, but forgives everything else'. So the simple answer is the biggest sinner in the world who believes in Allah is better than the best human in the world who doesn't.

[FAH1223]

[quote="sadeboi"]Fah, shirib, and co.

Do not attack the people. That will not help no one.

Ican, I have more respect for an atheist who left the religion because of "flaws" in it, then a muslim who does not practice the religion nor knows why he is a Muslim.[/quote]

sxb there are no "flaws" in Islam

the number one reason why people become apostates is because of the Muslims themselves (and you already pointed it out)

[fagash_killer]

if we attack the somalis who left islam than i understand why they left islam. they can leave and come back if they want to its between them and their creater remember that islam is a peacefull religion but somalis who lack islam and those who follow arab scolars ass and those who leave because of that are the reason why somalis left islam even though they could be wiser than that and just stick with one faith but than again who am i.

i see it as this just because of the love for your friends/parents ore anything else you will give them feed back and you will leave them before the conflict could escelate, you say that cuss for the love thats why they say couple married folks insult each other but they do that cuss they love each other. now if you talk about islam and other muslims attack you cuss you just shared your opnion you will leave it cuss you want to find out your q's about islam. i agree with sadeboi at one point those who lack islam and insult others cuss they think that they are right for what they are doing are simply wrong way wrong than those who leave it.

lets just say the somali christians studied the bible and christians(even though they do it for their own interests and really christians beat muslims when it comes to that issue) wlc them they will think hey i found my peacefull religion why should i go back to islam where i cant even share my opnion let me stick with this one. their are group of ex muslims who will think like that and you have other plenty ex muslims who found out their religion cuss for other reasons now the problem is the muslim community instead we should say no you are wrong than i mean with facts ore you are right and we respect your choise and answered their q's in to a peacefull way we are calling them kufaars do you really think they will come back. now imigane this you can chose between somaliland and somalia in somalia you have different of rebel groups with weapons and their is cival war going on and in somaliland their is peace i think you will flee to somaliland ore other regions where you can live in peace than in where you could be killed its excetly the same thing. now i have said that i know some non muslims who turned in to islam by them selves imigane them sitting in the mosque and the sheikh is saying may allah destroy the kufaars they understood that islam is a peacefull religion than muslims who are making it in to a unpeacefull religion now if the ex muslims could think the same as them than they would be wise indeed however if they left it cuss of anger than we should calm them the same thing as the somalis who support the ethiopians(than i mean those who do it for tribalism) cuss the anger they still have for what happend to their fammilies in the 90ste. now you understand where the divide and rule strategy is coming from but if you was smart enough you would stay in the middle as the prophets did it and you would negiote with both groups it sad but not all of us think that and thats why you have wars and violence evrywhere cuss we stick with one group be it tribalism ore interestsand the other groups are left to the heynas ofcourse would your enemy side with the other and would come after you but could you blaim the other group for a reason yes but you failed also to look at what you did for the other group instead of attacking them cuss you heard they are kufaars ore traitors by close ones now the best thing to do is research like the non muslims did it before you choising a side if he ore she says this is what i believe in than let the brother believe in what he believes in thats the only thing that could unite us imigane somali christian somali muslims and somali jews living togheter in peace.

[Hyperactive]

Foolhomo embey islamka kala tagen.
ok runti, islamku quantity oma bagna iyo dad islam ka on ko tirsan but only bringing bad to muslims, Muslim with quality ban oba hanahay.
alhamdullilah dad badan o serious ah ba malin walba deen ta so ghasha,

[FAH1223]

[quote="fagash_killer"]if we attack the somalis who left islam than i understand why they left islam. they can leave and come back if they want to its between them and their creater remember that islam is a peacefull religion but somalis who lack islam and those who follow arab scolars ass and those who leave because of that are the reason why somalis left islam even though they could be wiser than that and just stick with one faith but than again who am i.

i see it as this just because of the love for your friends/parents ore anything else you will give them feed back and you will leave them before the conflict could escelate, you say that cuss for the love thats why they say couple married folks insult each other but they do that cuss they love each other. now if you talk about islam and other muslims attack you cuss you just shared your opnion you will leave it cuss you want to find out your q's about islam. i agree with sadeboi at one point those who lack islam and insult others cuss they think that they are right for what they are doing are simply wrong way wrong than those who leave it.

lets just say the somali christians studied the bible and christians(even though they do it for their own interests and really christians beat muslims when it comes to that issue) wlc them they will think hey i found my peacefull religion why should i go back to islam where i cant even share my opnion let me stick with this one. their are group of ex muslims who will think like that and you have other plenty ex muslims who found out their religion cuss for other reasons now the problem is the muslim community instead we should say no you are wrong than i mean with facts ore you are right and we respect your choise and answered their q's in to a peacefull way we are calling them kufaars do you really think they will come back. now imigane this you can chose between somaliland and somalia in somalia you have different of rebel groups with weapons and their is cival war going on and in somaliland their is peace i think you will flee to somaliland ore other regions where you can live in peace than in where you could be killed its excetly the same thing. now i have said that i know some non muslims who turned in to islam by them selves imigane them sitting in the mosque and the sheikh is saying may allah destroy the kufaars they understood that islam is a peacefull religion than muslims who are making it in to a unpeacefull religion now if the ex muslims could think the same as them than they would be wise indeed however if they left it cuss of anger than we should calm them the same thing as the somalis who support the ethiopians(than i mean those who do it for tribalism) cuss the anger they still have for what happend to their fammilies in the 90ste. now you understand where the divide and rule strategy is coming from but if you was smart enough you would stay in the middle as the prophets did it and you would negiote with both groups it sad but not all of us think that and thats why you have wars and violence evrywhere cuss we stick with one group be it tribalism ore interestsand the other groups are left to the heynas ofcourse would your enemy side with the other and would come after you but could you blaim the other group for a reason yes but you failed also to look at what you did for the other group instead of attacking them cuss you heard they are kufaars ore traitors by close ones now the best thing to do is research like the non muslims did it before you choising a side if he ore she says this is what i believe in than let the brother believe in what he believes in thats the only thing that could unite us imigane somali christian somali muslims and somali jews living togheter in peace.[/quote]

Well ultimately its the Muslims, you could have said that, but i see what you saying 8)

somali jews and christians....

[AbdiWahab252]

FAH,

You know there is a world outside your sheltered life in Suburban MD with Christian Somalis, Buddhist Somalis, Aethist Somalis and even Yahud ones.

[FAH1223]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]FAH,

You know there is a world outside your sheltered life in Suburban MD with Christian Somalis, Buddhist Somalis, Aethist Somalis and even Yahud ones.[/quote]

give me a break and show proof

[AbdiWahab252]

FAh1223,

Do your google search.

Or ask Aabe.

I worry how you will survive beyond your sheltered home

[FAH1223]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]FAh1223,

Do your google search.

Or ask Aabe.

I worry how you will survive beyond your sheltered home [/quote]

did google and nothing comes up

i already talked to him about this a while ago when we saw some pix of Lutherian Somalis who sold their diin for money and housing in the West

and sheltered is living in a good house? i cook and clean for myself blud

I'm obsessed with being a clean horse, I clean my car even with the littlest marks

I'm independent!

[X.Playa]

Its about time..