Ayaan Hirsi Ali

[Abdi Garissa]

[quote="Deborah"]I have seen the Zembla documentary, if that's the one you mean. If she has told lies, I would like to report them, but I have to see the evidence. In her book, she tells many specific stories about things that happened to her in Kenya and the Netherlands. I'm sure that other people who were around at the time would have something different to say. But you would have to read her book to know what is true and what is false.[/quote]

if something looks like an elephant, trumpets, move & sh1ts like it, then probably it is an elephant. Like wise if one talks, writes, lives, dresses and thinks like a liar then one is ...
Well, ur guess is as good as mine

[Leila2007]

Deborah
[quote][/quote]yes, this is why i am trying to find people who know her or her family. her clan is osman mahmud, majerteen.


You need to look for the guy who shoot that documentary will be a start and also talk to somalis in Amsterderm am sure will give you infor that will be helpfull.

You need to talk to educated somalis who are knowlegeable enough to give you an unbiased assessment. I am sure most of us are emotional and dont like all the lies and what she is doing in the name of Islam but her family story is definately not TRUE!

Good luck and please dont add on the lies in whatever you are writting!

[The-Screw]

This topic is being closely watched by SATA (Somalinet Anti-Terrorism Agency) ...just an FYI.

[Leila2007]

The-Screw

Inaadheer why so you say that?

[The-Screw]

b/c of the sensitivity of this issue.

[Leila2007]

What do you mean by sensitivity?

[Twisted_Logic]

[quote="Leila2007"]What do you mean by sensitivity?[/quote]
like soft parts

[Leila2007]

[quote][/quote]like soft parts



Is that because Deborah knows her clan?

That is what I am wondering ????????

[El Loco]

Deborah
Most Somalis hate her because she essentially rejects Islam. Somalis are shitty Muslims, but like southern Rednecks, they can be religious fanatics when they feel like it.

PK me if you are interested in more details.

[updated]

she lied about herself so that she could be taken as a refugee.
Her lies came back to haunt her after she put too much light on herself in the sense that she could get famous. Isn't it sad to see that anyone who insults Islam is said to be a hero? She is a good example and Salman Rushdie is also another example. Anyway she got more than she expected, and WHAT GOES UP COMES DOWN. Question is, What happened to Ayan Hirsi????

[El Loco]

"Isn't it sad to see that anyone who insults Islam is said to be a hero? "

Personally, I think it's great. Islam deserves a good heaping of insults.........

[Naaima]

[quote="Deborah"]I am an American journalist[/quote]

right!..and you are looking trustworthy source of information in snet

[Leila2007]

[quote][/quote]Question is, What happened to Ayan Hirsi????


is a good start!

El loco aka Mad Mac

Deborah is an American like you and I dont think she needs your opinions on this matter. The fact that you are white/American disqualifies you from making any contribution.

[El Loco]

The fact that I am a white American means I am the only one who can give her a sound opinion on the matter. Fock, you don't expect you skinnies to give her an intelligent answer do you? Nope, it will be Islam this, Islam that, Ho this.............. I can already hear it.

[Basra-]

I question the 'authenticity' of Deborah. She starts with i am an 'American journalist' and during the course of discussion, it progresses to she resides in amsterdam and is 'based' there.Something sounds fishy, i think-maybe Deborah is a relative of or Ayaan hirsi herself.



What do i think of her? Nothing really. She makes a lot of hoopla noise and i just wished she goes away.You can be an atheist without insulting religion or the Prophet.PBUH. That is my problem with her.She is famous because she purposely embarked on being controversial. She is not famous but infamous.Anyone can become infamous with those views of hers.Deborah says -she is a feminist, women rights fighter? I beg your pardon? Name one cause she supports that benefits women?She insults the religion of more than half the population of the universe and hides behind feminism? I dont think so.


If she could only stop pretending she is an atheist or 'secular progressive' -- Somalis and even people in general would like her. That way, she wont look sad, scared, lonely like she looks now.At least her jawy face will not look so malnutritioned, it will gain some robust glow. She is probably an alcoholic, because god knows--her kind would result into alcoholism to deal with the prison that she puts herself in. What do I think of her?

I think she is sad and lonely, and delusional. I will pray for her.