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Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:49 pm
by Gedo_Boy
[quote="X.Playa"]gedo boy
The Mareexaan were a loyal subject of his majesty Gorege the 2nd as most Jubland Daarood were , so stop spiliting hair .[/quote]


Try harder X.Playa.

Do you know when WWI started?

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3096/marehan2od7.png

"Yet, by 1910, it was becoming obvious that the Marehan were getting out of control.
The Italians complained of raids across their border, and the Marehan also attacked the Ethiopians."

"...Gradually, the disarmament of the Marehan became the most urgent problem in the Protectorate"

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:51 pm
by X.Playa
looooooooool war world II, who was talking about war world II? its 1914

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:52 pm
by MJ-Pride
[quote="X.Playa"]It doesn't matter where you put the comma at , fact is the Ogaadeen only stated that only the Tolmoge among them was not inlcuded and its on the Muqaabil Ogaadeen which is 90% of Ogaadens.

The Mareexaan, Harti were exclusive whereas the Ogaadeen were speaking as only the Muqaabil section, read it.. its simple english.
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We the Somali of Jubaland both Herti and Ogaden, comprising all the tribes and including the Maghaubul, but not including the Tolomooge Ogaden who live in Biskaya and Tanaland and the Merehan desire humbly to address you[/quote]

Its poorly written this what they meant to say:

We, the Somali of Jubbland both the Harti and the Ogaden, comprising all the tribes including the maghabul; but not including the Tolomooge ogaden(who live in Biskaya), And Tanaland and the Marehan desire humbly to address you.


Basically, he's saying all Daroods i except the Ogaden Tolomooge are participating. The Leelkase is included too!

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:55 pm
by Gedo_Boy
[quote="X.Playa"]looooooooool war world II, who was talking about war world II? its 1914[/quote]


looool...Read Carefully :-) I didn't say WW2, I said WWI.

I told you, you are only seeing what you want to see. Your reality is warped.

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:57 pm
by X.Playa
gedo boy so now you gave up about the grand Mareexaan COMMA issue?

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:59 pm
by Gedo_Boy
That wasn't even our conversation. I never mentioned anything about commas.

loool.

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:01 pm
by X.Playa
gedo so despite the fact your kinsmen were arguing on faulty ground you choose to look and see if that would save you!

Now it didn't so stop spilting hair and address the issue the history of war world 1 or 2 can easily be googled in 2 seconds ,

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:02 pm
by Voltage
[quote="X.Playa"]Kuumbo boy,

Are you teaching me English little poppy ? the letter is very simple:

1- we the Harti and Ogaadeen excluding the Tolmoge

and the marehan desire to humbly address you.


Its that simple , we follows "and the Mareexaan desire to addres you" after excluding the Tomoge section of the Ogaadeen.[/quote]


What?? Dude this is like a Chinese international student teaching you about English loooooooooooooooooooooooolz

This is the article http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4281/textqi3.png

Again i will try to make you understand

If Marehan was included with harti and Ogaden the syntax of the article would read---> , and the Marehan desire to humbly address you.

But instead the article says----> and the Marehan, desire to humbly address you.

Also it specifically grouped Marehan with the seperation of Tolomage and the lands named, which showes Marehan is included with Tolomage but if it was not they would have sperated like I said which is----> , and the marehan desire to humbly address you.


Dude I am done, I can't reteach English here

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:03 pm
by Voltage
[quote="MJ-Pride"]Its poorly written this what they meant to say:

We, the Somali of Jubbland both the Harti and the Ogaden, comprising all the tribes including the maghabul; but not including the Tolomooge ogaden(who live in Biskaya), And Tanaland and the Marehan desire humbly to address you.


Basically, he's saying all Daroods i except the Ogaden Tolomooge are participating. The Leelkase is included too![/quote]


1. It is written the way it should, you can't tell us what it "meant" to say.

2. It says Tanaland (now NFD) NOT Tanade layl kase.

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:05 pm
by Gedo_Boy
X.Playa,

"...Gradually, the disarmament of the Marehan became the most urgent problem in the Protectorate"

Did you interpret that as collaboration?

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:05 pm
by Voltage
BINGO! BINGO!

to reinforce the syntax, the article also says "BOTTH OF US HARTI AND ABSAME".....it says "BOTH" and then it lists the clans who are not included, and then says "desire humbly to address you"


The argument is finished.

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:06 pm
by X.Playa
looool at this creature, indho adagaa,

Its says right there AND THE MAREEXAAN DESIRE TO ADRESS YOU, it didn't exclude the Mareexaan from the Harti and Ogaadeen they were simply added after excluding the Tolmooge based on geography and not even politics,

and later in the letter it even clearly states that the Mareexaan despite their pass "fitna'" are now well behaving colonial foot askaris for the KING..


So stop this childish COMMA war.

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:09 pm
by Gedo_Boy
"We the Somali of Jubaland both Herti and Ogaden, comprising all the tribes and including the Maghaubul, but not including the Tolomooge Ogaden who live in Biskaya and Tanaland and the Merehan desire humbly to address you"


That's like saying: "We Isaaq of Somaliland (which also consists of Gedabursi) take this action"
It's actually dispelling the belief that Marehan's presence in Jubbaland started post-91.


X.Playa,

Back to the drawing board brother :-)

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:12 pm
by Voltage
[quote="X.Playa"]looool at this creature, indho adagaa,

Its says right there AND THE MAREEXAAN DESIRE TO ADRESS YOU, it didn't exclude the Mareexaan from the Harti and Ogaadeen they were simply added after excluding the Tolmooge based on geography and not even politics,

and later in the letter it even clearly states that the Mareexaan despite their pass "fitna'" are now well behaving colonial foot askaris for the KING..


So stop this childish COMMA war.[/quote]


You know what you sound like? You sound like some crackhead saying stop saying cocain is dangerous for me, stop it, it does not matter!

Well you know the danger in cocain matters but the crackhead is gonna try to get it nevertheless,....you do you sxb but the article is clear.

If I say something exactly like the way the paragraph is written like:

I am going to eat both the pear and the apple, but excluding the red apple, found in my backyard and the plumes, tonight for dinner. [the way the article IS writte]

IS CLEARLY DIFFERENT THAN

I am going to eat both the pear and the apple, but excluding the red apple found in my backyard, and the plumes tonight for dinner. [the way you write it]


in the top one the plume is not included in the fruits to be eaten but in the bottom it is, a change brought upon only by a comma

Comma doesn't matter right????? Like I said, continue on going after that crack sxb

Re: somali want to fight 1914 Nov 22 The New York Times

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:12 pm
by Gedo_Boy
"We the Somali of Jubaland both Herti and Ogaden, comprising all the tribes and including the Maghaubul, but not including the Tolomooge Ogaden who live in Biskaya and Tanaland and the Merehan desire humbly to address you"


This is crucial: "but not including the Tolomooge Ogaden who live in Biskaya and Tanaland and the Merehan desire humbly to address you"



...In other words, all the tribes of Jubbaland, except Tolomooge-Ogaden (b/c they don't live there) & the Marehan. In fact, it is an implicit acknowledgment that Marehan live in Jubbaland but are not part of this letter, otherwise they wouldn't even mention it.

It is saying ALL of the Jubbaland Harti/Ogaden, EXCEPT Marehan & Tolomooge....the latter b/c they don't even reside here.