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Re: Puntland Presidential Candidate

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There were pictures here showing the residents of north mogdisho living peacefully and carefree, I'm not in the business of distorting the truth but I'm in the business of facts and reality. What about the people living in hargisa why are they not fighting ethipion meddling in their cities? How about those in kismayo? why are they sitting idly by? People have had enough of war and are moving on.
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Re: Puntland Presidential Candidate

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Good luck to Puntland, maybe they can resolve their internal disputes once Adde departs.
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[quote="Voltage"]I love how Zack repeated over and over again that the Ethiopians are a GAALO army and they are in Muslim land and the shemale tries to claw her eyes out to ignore that fact that made all the Shiekhs pronounce a FATWA.[/quote]

I seem to remember you bragging about holding talks with Ethiopians and bragging about Ethiopia cleaning the Ittihad extremists. Go take your medicine yaa munaafiq
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Re: Puntland Presidential Candidate

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[quote="Rebel-Lion"]GeneralSNM

There were pictures here showing the residents of north mogdisho living peacefully and carefree, I'm not in the business of distorting the truth but I'm in the business of facts and reality. What about the people living in hargisa why are they not fighting ethipion meddling in their cities? How about those in kismayo? why are they sitting idly by? People have had enough of war and are moving on.[/quote]

You are distorting the truth by claiming that these civillians in xammer that are being killed and made homeless deserve it because they are 'dawladiid' as you put it.But the reality is that they were more then happy to be governed by the hard line Islamic Courts and followed every rule that the Islamic courts set bacause deep down they felt these rules were in their best interest.The only people that are dawladdiid are your AY who is the oldest anti government warlord alive,and the rest of those coward warlords.
If you think xammer is peacefull read this.60% of xamers civillians have been made homeless and are deing of all sorts of deseases outside xammer,but you probably think they deserve it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7244404.stm
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Re: Puntland Presidential Candidate

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Darwinist: "survival of the fittest"

A/Y is no exception, he is a leader thats why he is the President. Dawladiid whether it be Hargesia or Mogdhushio will be up-rooted. Today Xamar tomorrow Hargesia.
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[quote="neocon_2007"]Darwinist: "survival of the fittest"

A/Y is no exception, he is a leader thats why he is the President. Dawladiid whether it be Hargesia or Mogdhushio will be up-rooted. Today Xamar tomorrow Hargesia.[/quote]

Shut the fock up you attention seeking laangaab.
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Ican/Rebel,

Every Somali of sound mind and age knows who A/Yusuf is, regardless of your pathetic attempts of painting him as a warrior fighting to rebuild his country.

Here is A/Yusuf's brief biography:

1960s

-Unknown and yet greedy liteunant in Sharmarke's government, before he attained much of a status within the Somali army; he started asking Sharmarke to name him head of the national army.

1970s

-An incompetent colonel within MSB's government, who then fled in to the arms of Mengistu and started his snitching business, while Somalia was at war.

1980s

-Running Radio Kulmis telling Somalis "Ethiopia is your friend, the real enemy is MSB and his government"

-He was then jailed by those he was serving so loyally, rotting in jail cells with the same men whom he snitched on for the Ethiopians

1990s

-Released from jail 1991, he waged a war on religious men many of whom were MJ; mostly reer Maxamuud who were trying to take over Bari and with the help of the Ethiopians was able to finish them off.

-Remained as an Ethio snitch and then proceeded to plundering the resources of Bari & Mudug. He also signed many deals with European companies to dump biochemical wastes along Somalia's coast line.

-In 2001, he was bytch slapped by Jama Ali and ran in to the arms of Zenawi, who then supplied him with supplies and then recaptured Bosaso.

2004

-Hand picked by Zenawi to become "Somalia's President" and for the next two years sat around either in Jowhar or Baydhabo while the whole world ignored his mere existence.

2007

-Entered Mogadishu for the first time since 1996 when he used to pay visits to Gen. Aideed during the "Salbalaar government" riding in an Ethiopian convoy.

-Has failed to rebuild Somalia or bring anything that resembles normalcy or stablity, eventhough he was provided with 50k Ethiopian troops, American AC-130 bombers, U.S. funds, international recognition and regional supremacy.
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^^^laangaabs don't write History I do.
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Re: Puntland Presidential Candidate

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to be honest, abdullahi yusuf has too much baggage to be the President

there needs to be a non-Partisan Somali who is independent of Ethiopian policy

but then again, we cant have that, its against the rules of nature
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Re: Puntland Presidential Candidate

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This is why I don't take your baseless propaganda seriously. Abdullahi Yusuf was a decorated soldier and commander in both the 1964 war and the ogadeen war of 1977. While the ineffective Siyaad barre (aun) you are so fond of was not even willing to go to war with Ethiopia and has not seen comabat, yet you want him to take credit for everything when he was nothing short of incapable and confused at times. The only credit siyaad(aun) was he's ability to manipulate people and clans for he's favor.

Abdullahi Yusuf had every right to start a coup considering he was jailed by Barre and that barre was systematically trying to remove majerteen leaders and diplomats and was always suspicious of the majerteen.

"In early 1975, Siyaad was put under increasing pressure by some officers in the Supreme Revolutionary
Council to march on the Ogaden. They were supported by many politically influential Somalis, and there was considerable unrest in
the capital city in the early months of 1975. At this time, Siyaad was Chairman of the Organisation of African Unity, and obviously thought that this was not the best moment to invade Ethiopia. So he attempted to negotiate with the revolutionary Derg for the return of the Ogaden -even although this strategy was doomed to fail - and this gave the new regime enough time to garner its forces. Then, in early 1977, while Siyaad was still counselling patience, Somali units began to move
autonomously westwards to the Ogaden. Now it is one thing to counsel patience, but quite another to recall troops from the area they are publicly committed to 'regaining'. The point of this reinterpretation of the 'invasion' of Somali regulars is to suggest that Siyaad did not lead his troops into the Ogaden, but rather FOLLOWED them there."



This is siyaad barre you are trying to glorify, he was not even interested in getting the ogadeen back because of fears of reprisal and western countries stopping the foreign aid. Somalia under siyaad barre was living and survived on foreign aid, why is it the TFG are not allowed to use foreign money, weapon and aid to restore hope to a chaotic country? South somali's have not accepted any form of government, foreign intervention and support was and is necessary.

The Ethiopians are our arch enemy and if things could be changed and A/Y had the commitment of UN and AU troops then they would not have been there. They are also our neighbours and at this point in time more powerfull than us and we should be busy fixing our problems before we can even dream of trying to take them on again.

The TFG will be replaced and is just a launching pad for a better government, give them a chance.
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Re: Puntland Presidential Candidate

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Ican/Rebel,

Do you dare deny that A/Yusuf has been an Ethio snitch since 1979 when he fled to Ethiopia and turned his back on his beloved homeland? Was he not the man that was running Radio Kulmis telling Somalis "Ethiopia is your friend, the real enemy is MSB and his government" while Ethiopian jets were bombing Somali cities?

What has he accomplished? What legacy is he leaving behind? He was selected as the head of the Mbagathi regime in 2004, can you give me a list no matter how short it is of accomplishments during his tenure? All I see is blind support from you and nothing to back it up with, I am willing to give him the benefit of doubt here and even say, maybe he's trying to run a government, but do you honestly think the Ethiopians, the U.S. or the league of goons he commands have any interest in seeing a productive Somali government?

We all know who the members of the Mbagathi regime are; they are the same merceneries and war criminals that have worked towards Somalia's destruction. Are you naive enough to believe that the U.S. is interested in peace or stability for Somalia? If they were, why would they bring back the same monsters that have fed on the suffering of the people and made Somalia a hell-hole? Why didn't Jendaya Frazier opt for real patriots who never took part in Somalia's civil war, when they exist and are plenty?

The "TFG" will not be replaced, because that defeats the whole purpose. They are not a launching pad for anything, because nobody wants a real, legitimate government for Somalia; not the U.S., not the Ethiopians and certainly not the goons who call themselves ministers. However, their time is running out, the equation that brought Zenawi, A/Yusuf and U.S. officials was money and that is running out. I give them another 6-8 months before the Ethiopians pull out and your government falls apart like a deck of cards, insha Allah.
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Re: Puntland Presidential Candidate

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Koronto

It was abdullahi yusuf who was decorated for bravery and he was fighting for your ogadeen people not barre, just remember that. What legacy he leaves behind will be up to future historians to decide, even if the TFG fails at least there was an attempt on he's part to bring the somali republic back while others were busy and comfortable with what little fiefdoms they controlled.

The TFG does contain some war criminals, but even the ICU had to placate and give war criminals(INdhocadde) some positions in order to solidify their power and have everyone on board. That's the reality of somalia, your not gonna find many clean people.

The prime minister nuur cadde is an example of someone who has no blood in he's hands, and he has shown plenty of times him and the government are willing to negotiate with the insurgents. There seems to be commitment to peace from one group and the commitment to the destruction and instability of somalia on the other.

What the US and Ethiopia's agenda is, is unknown at this time. a stable and pro-western somalia would be more beneficial to them then the current situation which only creates more insurgents, so I don't think Ethiopia has any interest in continuing to waste resources in somalia if they can have a government that's capable of controlling the whole country and is not antagonistic towards them. It's simple game of interest, I don't think there is some diabolical plan to have somalia unstable because if anything that is the kind of environment that insurgents operate on best.
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Re: Puntland Presidential Candidate

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Musharaxa Madax waynenimada Puntland Sheekh Adam Mohamed Esse


i think he will make putland Islamic republic
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Re: Puntland Presidential Candidate

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[quote="Somalian_Boqor"]Puntland Presidential Candidates need to come from Puntland and not the west.

Only a Person living in Puntland can understand reer Puntland best.

If we want to take Puntland to the next Level we need someone from Sool or Saang to be the Head of State so Puntland's Hartinimo can stay in place for years to come. Thats just what I think.[/quote]


i agree,the next president should be from the harti clan (not majerteen) or leelkasse,awrtable,carabsalax .but only if he is fit for the job
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