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Do you believe that Islam is inherently more violent then say Christianity and Judaism?

Good question, if he lies I swear I will burn him with evidence. Because I have so much of it everywhere.

ibroX wrote:

Cawar wrote:Ib,

You are coming off not only as a confused soul..but arrogant and ill informed as well.

Some dude in the sky??

Wether there was evolution or not..which has no hard evidence to support it btw..the only thing we know as 100% sure..is that nothing is made/created without a maker and/or creator..

Just come up with one tiny bit where there is any???

This is a thought I always use to have as a child, but: If nothing is made/created without a maker/creator, then what made the maker/creator?

If you were a Muslim, you would know Allah SWT is forever, Allah is the first and the last.

Allah simply has always been there...

Look in the Qur'an, thats all we can say.

Allah only guides whom he wills, and that means those seek guidance.

When you are in a calamity, you will ask for Allah one day

and on the day of judgment according to a hadith (im paraphrasing), a person such as you will be resurrected blind and ask Allah "why am I blind while being brought to the world I knew?"

the response to you will be that all you saw were signs of his majesty, the earth and its orbit, the changing of the seasons, the beginning of night and day

all of this is not coincidence, Allah created everything under its set time and purpose...Earth is not forever, just deeply think about the universe...

no amount of science will be able to fully explain it, even though we humans try our best

"Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators? Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, they have no firm belief. "
(Holy Qur'an 52: 35-36)

CAN WE PLEASE PUT THE RELIGIOUS VERSES ASIDE? I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS THE ISSUE WITHOUT HEAVY RELIANCE ON RELIGION.

KlashneFolk wrote:CAN WE PLEASE PUT THE RELIGIOUS VERSES ASIDE? I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS THE ISSUE WITHOUT HEAVY RELIANCE ON RELIGION.

why not?

the Qur'an speaks to those such as him

were you created out of nothing? was it instantaneous?

FAH1223 wrote:

KlashneFolk wrote:CAN WE PLEASE PUT THE RELIGIOUS VERSES ASIDE? I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS THE ISSUE WITHOUT HEAVY RELIANCE ON RELIGION.

why not?

the Qur'an speaks to those such as him

were you created out of nothing? was it instantaneous?

I am pretty sure you can use other scientific resources out there that disprove evolution. For example, the guy doesn't even believe in the authencity of the Quran so it is futile really to use it as a source to refute him.

KlashneFolk wrote:

FAH1223 wrote:

KlashneFolk wrote:CAN WE PLEASE PUT THE RELIGIOUS VERSES ASIDE? I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS THE ISSUE WITHOUT HEAVY RELIANCE ON RELIGION.

why not?

the Qur'an speaks to those such as him

were you created out of nothing? was it instantaneous?

I am pretty sure you can use other scientific resources out there that disprove evolution. For example, the guy doesn't even believe in the authencity of the Quran so it is futile really to use it as a source to refute him.

the aim was not at evolution

you can google scientists on google on why they disprove of evolution

or even cite Harun Yahya

LOL.

I love it when people point to the Koran as proof of God's existence, or when they say that God's existence is obvious and in front of your eyes. Neither of these things is evidence! Again, either produce evidence of God's existence or admit that you can't prove it--all you have is superstition.

Ok Klashnekof..he is all yours..take the guy to a corner and isolate him..

PS. My perspective was to show him that Islam is in Sync and actually was way advanced in science before there was such a thing as science anywhere in the world.

ibroX,

You still haven't answered my question buddy

Cawar wrote:Ok Klashnekof..he is all yours..take the guy to a corner and isolate him..

PS. My perspective was to show him that Islam is in Sync and actually was way advanced in science before there was such a thing as science anywhere in the world.

Loool! Honestly, I am only interested in his views ( rational ones)

KlashneFolk wrote:ibroX,

You still haven't answered my question buddy

I'm sorry but that would be derailing the thread. If you want my opinion on this read my long thread on the front page.

ibroX wrote:

1nemansquad wrote:So now you also don't think God exists?

Can you prove to me that he does?

That as as stupid as asking you to prove if whoever created your laptop exists. Everything thats there, there is something behind it. Something just can't surface without a backbone

Cawar wrote:Ok Klashnekof..he is all yours..take the guy to a corner and isolate him..

PS. My perspective was to show him that Islam is in Sync and actually was way advanced in science before there was such a thing as science anywhere in the world.

Yea, Islam WAS. Past tense. Every piece of technology you currently use has been invented in the West.

ibroX wrote:

KlashneFolk wrote:ibroX,

You still haven't answered my question buddy

I'm sorry but that would be derailing the thread. If you want my opinion on this read my long thread on the front page.

Ok let me open a new thread then. Klash always takes the long road

ibroX wrote:

Cawar wrote:Ok Klashnekof..he is all yours..take the guy to a corner and isolate him..

PS. My perspective was to show him that Islam is in Sync and actually was way advanced in science before there was such a thing as science anywhere in the world.

Yea, Islam WAS. Past tense. Every piece of technology you currently use has been invented in the West.

We are going to have so much fun