[quote="Shirib"]^^^ Is it not clear that they did u idiot[/quote]
how is it clear who did it? ofcourse the residents will blaim the ethiopians cuss they saw the ethiopian troops storming in the mosque ofcourse the ethiopians had the last shot. but you missed it how shouldnt we knw that al shaydaans were using ppl as a shield? ore were fighting among the wadaads.what would the tfg and the ethiopians gain from killing innocent wadaads? it is the al shaydaan who got most to lose since the icu accepted talks so when you know that you are beeing left behind why not terrorize the ppl and challenge the ethiopians out and hide behind ppl so that the ethiopians take innocent wadaads with them and than put your fingers at ethiopia sidaa nabadda laa joojiyoo iyo icu kaa nooqotoo dooneysaay haddaladii laa qaasoo tfg which they did by the way. it could be all planned.isnt it funny that the guy you have on your avatar reported that he inuu wax wadaa hadaal lagaaniin tfgkaa. hadaa maskaax haasatiid take the example of shilling. think with me the al shaydaan need to have a reason to boycott the talks between the tfg and icu if icu accepted talks than ppl could say al shaydaan waa nabad diids lakiin now this tragedy news happend which could be planned by al shaydaan abu mansuur came with excuss like ethiopia did this and that and the au troops oo ma araaqnoo daad nabad keenayoo you see they and you only go keep in circles you have no politicall agenda sxb.
its funny how the al shaydaans are blaiming the ethiopians for the massacre how shouldnt we know that they were really in the mosque and witouth uniform only to blaim the ethiopians and to stop the peace between the icu and tfg. when they where beeing left behind ofcourse terrorize the whole block and than blaim the ethiopians and stop the peace so that the icu also halt the talks like they did by the way.well dont except that the ethiopian troops will leave matter of fact more soldiers where beeing send their. this war could be long aslong these shaydaans are using ppl as a shield. its clear the terrorist leader dont want peace well i say i dont care if hadaa laa karbaashoo but bare in mind that in the mean time somalis are once again the victims nor do the al shaydaan care nor the world. only we somalis can and thats to work with the tfg we have no choise but to support these war against al shaydaans for the sake of our country
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:56 pm
by Shilling
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Shilling,
There is no excuse for butchering unarmed Tabliq. Don't defend the Ethiopians slaughter of these men who were innocents who never advocated violence.
Abdiwahaab,
According to AbdiQabadiid this mosque massacre never took place, it is all but a lie. But going with the masses accusations I would think the Al-Shabaab are as much part of the problem since their the ones doing all sort of little hit and run that only takes the lifes of innocent bystanders...The Ethiopian are located in their bases and when put under fire they will respond and as you know when under fire you will do anything to survive, hell it was some Somali with fake cimaamad who they are taking fire from so what do you expect after they had the nerve to hide in a mosque knowing the Ethiopians who they fire upon are on their tail...trust me this group aren't helping at all since they are putting people in harms why left and right everyday of every second.
They plant bombs in the middle of crowded areas that only later blows up in civilians faces(what ever happen to those kids and hoyooyin coming back from the market to cook a hot meal for their family safety?) this group don't care, after all they are the very ones taking shelter among civilian just so they could blend in.
Sxb, lets think with our heads here instead of our hearts, I know those dying are fellow Somalis and I don't like it any more then you do. Yes, the Ethiopians are part of the problem since they are roaming the streets of our capital, but so are the Al-shabaab since they are the ones taking shelter in civilian areas just to blend in; lets not over look them just because they happen to be Somali is all am saying sxb.
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:58 pm
by Shirib
Seven of the 21 were reported to have died after their throats were cut - a form of extra-judicial execution practiced by Ethiopian forces in Somalia
When u go into a Misaajid and are killing unarmed people by slitting there throats thats a massacre. What was Al Shabaab doin hiding behind the wadaads while the Ethiopians were slitting there throat.
Get the hell out of here with that bullshit
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:05 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Shilling,
Saxiib, it did happen. 7 of the dead Tabliq were buried in General Caydiid's graveyard. As for AbdiQeybdiid, he has fumbled once again. Except this time, he is creating enemies among the Suufi Qaadriyah who were sympathetic to his plight at the hands of the UIC.
As for the Ethiopians, they will react as they please. However, all it does is turn the public against the TFG.
This is why Al Shabab & co will always gain new recruits and followers based on the overwhelmingly brutal response from the Ethiopians & LACK OF CRITICISM by the TFG.
It would be a bold step for the TFG to condemn any Ethiopian atrocity.
For God's sake, even Hamid Karzai condemns the US when they kill innocent people in their airstrikes.
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:13 pm
by *jr
Shirib wrote:Seven of the 21 were reported to have died after their throats were cut - a form of extra-judicial execution practiced by Ethiopian forces in Somalia
When u go into a Misaajid and are killing unarmed people by slitting there throats thats a massacre. What was Al Shabaab doin hiding behind the wadaads while the Ethiopians were slitting there throat.
Get the hell out of here with that bullshit[/quote]
This is PR bullshit orchestrated by Al-Shabab and Hawiye websites. The facts on the ground tell a very different story.
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:15 pm
by fagash_killer
[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Shilling,
For God's sake, even Hamid Karzai condemns the US when they kill innocent people in their airstrikes.[/quote]
well didnt nuur cadde said waan kaa xumnahaay wixii dhacay. atleast he cared for the tragedy that happend that could be planned by al shaydaan. well on the other hand hadee kuwaan islam kaa dhab tahay they would mourn with the wadaads but the first thing laa imadaan waxeey aheyd waa inaa jihaad looquu qadaa ethiopia that means iney dad fara badan kaalle dhimanoo karoo. nobody is saying that the tfg is perfect for god sake this is africa not afghanistan oo eu us mamuulsoo.kaa sii socoo what nuur cadde said further is but if the ethiopian and the somali troops come under fire they have all the right to defend them selves 100% agreed the al shaydaan use hit and run strategy than the ethiopians and tfg response with fire and than boem innocent ppl die their. one with clear mind would blaim the al shaydaan more than the ethiopians ore the tfg.it is like they plan your dead for you. see it like tom and jerry game and ques who jerry and tom are.
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:22 pm
by qudhac-m
The massacre took place and there was no Alshabaab hiding in the mosque, actually they were Tabliiq from all over somalia
and somaliland.
It was the end of the four month Tabliiq and most pple were ready for home thats why there were a lot of pple in the mosque waiting
for the cars to take them home.
The only reason the Ethiopians attacked the Mosque was to set an example and show they can be brutal.
Sadly there heavy handed attack fell on innocent people.
Suldaan qudhac aad uga naxay dadka la dilay maygaag.
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:26 pm
by Advo
Addis Ababa (AFP) - Ethiopia's Ogaden rebels on Thursday condemned the arrest of two of their top leaders by the authorities of Somalia's northern breakaway Puntland region.
The Ogaden National Liberation Front (ONLF) - a Somali-ethnic movement which has battled Addis Ababa for two decades - said its leaders were arrested on Tuesday.
"The two ONLF political prisoners were removed by force from their hotel in Garowe in central Somalia by security forces of the Puntland administration," the rebel movement said in a statement.
The rebel group said the two ONLF leaders were then driven in the personal vehicle of Puntland's finance minister back to the Ogaden border and handed over to Ethiopian security.
The Ethiopian government in 2007 launched a massive military crackdown targeting the ONLF in its oil-rich southern strongholds.
Source: AFP, April 24, 2008
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:31 pm
by fagash_killer
this is what beenbeen news reported Ciidamada Ethiopia oo galabta Masjidka Al,Hidaaya ku Gowracay ku dhawaad 20 Ruux. gowracay they say well if you watched the pictures you saw two mens who bleed to death like they were beeing shot in their head face. okey taa labaad if you can remember thos picture those pictures were beeing token during the war between icu and ethiopia you should see the last picture with the dead dameer who is lying on the ground i still remember costa posting that even their dameero is not safe. and the other pictures you see ppl standing on the grave ad daad laa asayaay thats all they dont have any other prove information only beenbeen.
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:46 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Fagash,
Are you Somali or Ethiopian ?
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:47 pm
by Shilling
Shirib,
When you have bunch of fake "ciimaamad" wearing thugs like Al-Shabaab who routinely do little hit and run on you, and later take shelter in civilian areas or in this case a Mosque don't expect any mercy, people will do anything to survive in the heat of the moment.
If Al-Shabaab have an ounce of concern for our fellow Somalis in the capital then why not safe the Somalis there the trouble and do their little hit and run elsewhere?
The Ethiopian are in the heart of Somalia (our ruin capital), the fact is they will leave eventually; this is a neighbor of ours and the Al-Shabaab expect it to run back to it's country like the US did in 1993, this isn't going to happen since they don't have that option of running back to a country far away from Somalia, they feel threaten by us and as long as we keep screaming Jihad on them then the time span of them leaving will only lengthen. So why not play smart and use our heads here by opening dialogue to avoid anymore of this:
These are civilian dying sxb, and they are dying of direct cause by both party, the Al-Shabaab and Ethiopians.
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:51 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Shilling,
Saxiib, U know I hate Al Shabab.
However, explain to me how the execution of these Tabliq is justified ?
As for the TFG, they are in no position to survive because they have failed to make genuine reconciliation with the general public and have beholden themselves to the Ethiopians.
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:28 pm
by Shilling
Abdiwahaab,
Sxb, I'm in some god forsaken land just like you the only source I have to what is happening in our trouble country is the goddamn websites who are either bias or far from the truth.
But to make sense of it all, as I understood it the Al-shabaab did their usual hit and run, the Ethiopians responded as they usual do and in the process it was said, some wadaado were killed. The group in support of the Al-shabaabs said it was done by the Ethiopian, those on the opposite end of the spectrum said that was not the case. There is mix massege out there sxb, and given the history of Al-shabaab who took out wadaado themselves in the past, who knows they might have done it themselves since their known to do so.
Either way the execution of these Tabliq (AUN) is very unjustifiable, am hurt? To be quite honest with you no! You could say I've become immune to the unjust killing of innocent taking place in Somalia long ago; this is something I've learned to ignore because other innocent souls will suffer the same faith in a matter of hours. This is something the whole world learned to ignore, we don't care so why should they, right?
Re: Massacre in Mosque
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:31 pm
by Somaliweyn
Shirib wrote:Seven of the 21 were reported to have died after their throats were cut - a form of extra-judicial execution practiced by Ethiopian forces in Somalia
When u go into a Misaajid and are killing unarmed people by slitting there throats thats a massacre. What was Al Shabaab doin hiding behind the wadaads while the Ethiopians were slitting there throat.
Get the hell out of here with that bullshit[/quote]
Well spoken.
This is nothing less than gross human rights violations, and a massacre committed in a masjid. No justifications!