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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia

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The Ethiopians are even worse then us. Today's "ethnic" Ahmara and "Tigrey" are nothing but the ones who spoke the languages yesterday. Essentially they have no ethnic identity which is why they despise the strong ethnic identity of the Oromo (keep in mind a good majority of Semetic speak Habesha today are former Oromos, Haile Salassie was also Oromo)

Like I told you James, Habeshas do not have ethnic groups and their languages were because of linguistic displacement.

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Im sorry..but why should hashmeite lineage mean anything...seriously Somalis..you are african..stop trying to identity yourself with the arabs. :roll: :roll:
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dawwa9 wrote:17% Middle Eastern genetically.
Darood is 1 clan out of 6 clans.

1/6*100=16.66%

Exactly as I had though. Even the Genetic tests do not lie.

Nobody ever denied Dir and Hawiye and the rest are full blooded indeginous or that some groups in Raxanweyn were of Bantu descent.
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dawwa9 wrote:That's not the only test done on Somalis, there are several others..You should search for it..

Somalis are one of the purest Africans..

Ethiopians especially Xabashis are actually mixed not Somalis, because a large number of them are offspring's of immigrants from Yemen who left during Queen Saba's era, this theory is also backed by many historical documents and genetic tests

But the Somali - Arab story is totally bullshit
you didnt understand.. the study clearly shows that somalis are not arab
but distinctly somali...

it also shows that we share about 15% eurasian genes.. and 5 %


these are average results..
now for someone to have recent arab lineage on the fathers side.. it will have to be more than the average 15% and something like 30%..

amhara speakers that are mixed group of axumites, agew , sidamo and oromos have 33% j1 and j2
j1 is an arab or semetic marker.
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I know that Ethiopians are more flexible with adding people to their ethnic groups by just speaking the language or even by maternal-links.

But still tests have shown they're up to 40-50% non-African.

Ethiopians are also much lighter than Somalis:
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Voltage wrote:The Ethiopians are even worse then us. Today's "ethnic" Ahmara and "Tigrey" are nothing but the ones who spoke the languages yesterday. Essentially they have no ethnic identity which is why they despise the strong ethnic identity of the Oromo (keep in mind a good majority of Semetic speak Habesha today are former Oromos, Haile Salassie was also Oromo)

Like I told you James, Habeshas do not have ethnic groups and their languages were because of linguistic displacement.

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exactley was shoa previously a muslim sultanate until its conquest in the 1300.
there was a small semetic speaking muslim elite much like the hararis and gurage, probably muslim refugees from axum.
but the majority were cushite agew and sidama.

when the amhara speakers conquered it, they simply absorbed these different ethic groups,
the same way most of the sidamo and various other people including some somali clans have dissapeared through oromo assimilation.
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Voltage

I don't want to get tribal but I don't think a Marehan living in a mud-hut in extreme southern Somalia carries any Arab blood, It would be more logical that the ones that actually tested positive on Arab blood are from the North i.e. Somaliland and Puntland or the coastal areas in the south.
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BINGO, BINGO, BINGO THE GENETICISTS ARE NOT STUPID READ THE REST.

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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia

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dawwa9 wrote:Voltage

I don't want to get tribal but I don't think a Marehan living in a mud-hut in extreme southern Somalia carries any Arab blood, It would be more logical that the ones that actually tested positive on Arab blood are from the North i.e. Somaliland and Puntland or the coastal areas in the south.
Have a cookie Hawiyoow. :up:
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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia

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dawwa9 wrote:I know that Ethiopians are more flexible with adding people to their ethnic groups by just speaking the language or even by maternal-links.

But still tests have shown they're up to 40-50% non-African.

Ethiopians are also much lighter than Somalis:
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Hope you do know Haile Salassie is Oromo. :oops:

Most Somalis are cafe au laute, we all know the people called "futa madoobe". :lol: :lol: Still, skin color is just a product of melanin...the lightest people in Ethiopia are the Wallega Oromo and the darkest Ethiopians are the Arssi Oromo. The Wallega live in the highest mounts and the Arssi living in lands more flat and dry than Hawiye. Get educated. :up:
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daawa....ethios live in the highlands...thats why they are more lighter
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I thought Oromos were dark people? some even say darker than Somalis?
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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia

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Voltage & Gurey:

When they say Somali are they referring to a particular tribe ? If they took the blood of a Rer Xamar person, there is probably be Semitic DNA (Persian and Arab).

How do the results vary if someone has maternal Arab blood in them ?
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Voltage & Gurey:

When they say Somali are they referring to a particular tribe ? If they took the blood of a Rer Xamar person, there is probably be Semitic DNA (Persian and Arab).

How do the results vary if someone has maternal Arab blood in them ?

Ancestral DNA is split up in the Y chromosomal DNA (Father) and Mitochondria DNA (Mother)

In both, Somalis lack Arab blood
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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia

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James Dahl wrote:There's no agreement on the Quraish haplogroup. The fact that the Hashemite royal family has the G haplogroup, from the caucasus mountain range, actually makes one question their ancestry (the Mamelukes of Egypt who ruled Hijaz for centuries were slave soldiers from the Caucasus).
interesting is it on the paternal side or maternal?

i am asking becuase the caucasus and southern ukaraine was the source of most of the slave girls
i wouldnt be surprised if you find allot of the rich and noble clans have some in them..

having those concubines was a status symbol in the 1500 till the 1900.
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