Western Resolve in Starving 1,000,000 Somalis

[Grant]

".... before Washington brought ethiopian Army to Somalia?"

Do you mean before Aweys declared jihad on Ethiiopia? How about before the shishkabob declared war on the UN and the aid agencies?

Get a grip, man. The facts are not that malleable.

And answer my question: who killed the Eelay?

[gurey25]

The Icu were political novices but what you forget Grant is that Ethiopia did not really invade in 2006, they already had troops inside somali territory since 98,
and they routinley transgressed somalias borders...

in any country and in any age this is more than enough justification for declaring war.

the equation is very simple grant.

Ethiopia = evil and anybody aiding and abetting it has forfieted there right to freedom
and life.

ICU were in their own country, defending their lands in this case = good side.

political idiocy aside.

[934]

"Millions of Somalis are facing starvation as years of war drought take their toll"


By Adam Minot


http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/ ... 4&src=news




The BBC SCRIPT IN THIS REPORT IS EXTREMELY TELLING OF HOW FAR THE WEST IS WILLING TO GO IN THEIR WAR IN SOMALIA.


The sinister part of this report is where the arrows of disinformation are pointing:



This human disaster is the fualt of Somali people: CIVIL WAR; that this human disaster is due to a lack of rain, drought.

No mention of Ethiopain invasion, or the driving mogadishu's entire inhabitants out of the city. No mention of disrupting the normal life of Million of Somalis as result of the Ethiopian invasion and Western assistance.




Nolol cusub

The BBC would have made Hitler proud. A propoganda machine and apologist for fascism and anything evil!

[Grant]

Who killed the Eelay?

[gurey25]

are you insinuiating that the HG had sole responsibility for the ealay famine?

[Grant]

I am insinuating the international aid community has been here before. I for one will not blame them if they withdraw from this present campaign of assasination and piracy. That leaves only the source of the assasinations and piracy to assume responsibility.

I see no plan or ability among the shishkabob to deal with a crisis of the magnitude being described, so it is not a mixed bag beyond this point.

[AbdiWahab252]

Grant,

Who killed the Eelay ? The Western backed dictator who stole their food stocks when he occupied Bay and Bakool for 10 months in 1991-1992. Without Western backing and military aid, the dictator would have been ejected much sooner.

Western interference makes things become worse in Somalia. If they never interfered in 1992, the Somali war would have been concluded in 1993, Spring 1994 at the latest. The Western intervention through gas into a war that was winding down.

[Grant]

AW,

I have not yet sorted out what I think about the UN intervention and what could have been after 1992, but we are talking about Aidiid, are we not? In what way was he Western-backed in preventing aid from reaching the Eelay? Was the UN backing BOTH sides of that fight?

It seems to me the HG forced the UN to withdraw, or to see the situation as not yet mature, preventing aid from reaching the Eelay. I can't yet speak for the civil war, but blockading the aid would seem to put the blame on Aidiid for the Eelay deaths, similar vis-a-vis the shishkabob to any drought deaths in the forseeable future. You should not blame those who are trying to help for not doing something you are doing everything in your power to prevent. The West did not starve the Eelay and has no desire to create drought deaths now.

The basic tenet in the title of this thread is absurd.

[King-of-Awdal]

Quit blaming your problems on other's you bastards. All those people are starving because your so called warlords and fake Islamist did this to them.

[AbdiWahab252]

Grant,

No friend. There was no conspiracy to starve any one. The drought was played up as issue in 1992 to call for Western intervention. The extent of looting of food aid was highly over hyped. The extent to which food aid was also not being equally distributed throughout the nation to drought stricken areas in the Central and South was also unfair.


That was over 15 years ago.

Today, the West has funded the EThiopian invasion of Somalia. There is no denying that. The West continues to support a barbaric occupation government and its Ethiopian protectors and shields criticism of their actions.

Those starving Somalis are starving due to the political mess which started with the Ethiopian invasion. Their displacement into miserable conditions is something the West contributed immensely to. The West has refused to look beyond its preoccupation with fearing Islamists and seeing the terror it is inflicting on the Somali people.

In the end, the Somali will suffer and a new generation of antiWestern Somalis will develop. The Shishkabob or UIC will gain more recruiters and Somalia goes the way of Afghanistan and becomes home to every antiWestern element.


KOA,

Go sock on your French d.cks ! Dabootians are always lackeys to Cadaan

[King-of-Awdal]

AW

Its ok if ur people starve to death. They are anywayz all going to hell as they have blood on their hands. Every HG on this planet is a kufaar with blood on his hands.

[Nolol cusub]

The top humanitarian official for Somalia, "We are at the moment two months or so away from preventing large scale hunger."


It might be too late for some.


http://www.voanews.com/english/Africa/2 ... -voa47.cfm




NC

[Nolol cusub]

"Instead of effectively fighting those individuals who wish to harm America, the US has taken on Somali people."



One way to do this is to cause the starvation of a Million Somalis. A total war on the population.




Washington Post


July 17, 2008

Somalia time to pay attention:

The United States has contributed to the mess in Somalia by failing to grasp the nuances of the Muslim world.
Somalia: Time to Pay Attention

By Frankie Martin

While the world looks else where, Somalia is in flames. The Nation has topped alist of the worlds most unstable countries by Foreign policy magazine, and the Unted Nations has declared the Humanitarian situation there is "worse than Darfur."

....... http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/post ... ntion.html



NC.

[Nolol cusub]

Now that the pro western analyst are coming to our conclusion, it time for them to see Washinton's war on Somali people as war conducted on racial front as much as it conducted on religious front.



The US and the EU war against muslims is about a world domination. The rules of engagement would be different depending on the race of the Muslims. In the African front there is a sanctioned savagery techniques than is permissible in white Muslim fronts.

Evidence:

In the forward pages of US Army * Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual, General David Petraeus and L T General James Amos assert that the POPULATION SECURITY IS THE FIRST REQUIREMENT OF SUCCESS IN COUNTER INSURGENCY. Next " economic development, good governance, and the provision of essential services, all occurring within the matrix of effective information operation, muslt all improve simultenously and steadily over long period of time if America's determined insurgent enemies are to be defeated."

Here is the question:

Is Somalia part of the "war on terror" just like Afghanistan and Iraq? Or is it different?

The answer is yes, Somalia is "part of the war on terror" as general Petraeus forward pages assert.

Then why isn't population security a priority in Somalia?

Remember in Iraq Petraeus surge was to give population security. In Afghanistan, despite effective insurgency, the general population is not under attack.


What makes Somalia different?

Is it because of the race of Somali people?

How else can one explain a Leningrad Nazi style destruction of a population of entire city.


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Amnesty said some 6,000 civilians were reported killed and more than 600,000 were forced to flee their homes in the Somali capital, Mogadishu, last year. "The people of Somalia are being killed, raped, tortured. Looting is widespread and entire neighborhoods are being destroyed," Michelle Kagari, Amnesty's deputy director for Africa, said in a statement from Nairobi that accompanied the report.




A Tukhachevsky doctrine? Destruction of the population

or

Peteaus' counterinsurgency doctrine? Population security




Another interesting question about Race and War:

Is this unique to Somalia or are there other historical precedents where the general objective of the invader remained the same but the methods of operation were different due to the race of the population?


Classic example: The Nazi invasion of Europe(1939-1945)


The objective of the Nazi Germany: World domination


Method of operation in "proper Europe": France, Holland, Scandenavian.

The Nazi's were more civil.


Mothed of operation in Slavik Europe: Russia, Yuguslavia.

The Nazi's were extremely brutal




NC.

[Murax]

Every HG on this planet is a kufaar with blood on his hands.

KOA,

Ilahay ka cabso that statement is a major sin