Ancient Somali history

[CUSHITE KINGDOM]

i heard many different stories

but one is that a men(arab) married an hawiye women hence when the kingdom formed
the would go and collect tax from the surrounding areas of mogadishu there for were givin the name ajuraan(ajuur meaning tax i think) you right my doesnt abtiris go to hawiye or somaali but i rather believe that im origin from egyptians any day than a filthy spineless arab.

[James Dahl]

I think that the patriarch of Ajuran married a daughter of Meqare Samaale, and then his descendant married a daughter of Jambeele Hawiye. At least that's my suspicion.

Do you know anything about Ajuran's ancestry?

[X.Playa]

"The Islamic Cushites however, the royal family, became the Somali. The last Emperor of Axum founds the Makhzumi sultanate of Shoa in the southern highlands"

James you need to brush up your Arab side of the theory ,your interpertations of ancient hisory however interesting you still assume the Bible as history book, the term "kush" is Biblical and it means "blacks" drived from so called "Curse Of Ham", in actual history there is no such a thing as Kushites, the Egyptians never refred to their southern neigbours as "Kush".

The Bani Makhzum are a sub-clan of Quraysh and they are the tribe of Khalid Ibn Waliid the commander of early Muslims, The Bani Makhzumes settled as early as the 7th century in Mogadisho and later in Zayla , thats part of history of Arab migrations was detailed by the Ba'awali first Somalian historian Sharif Aydarus Sharif Ali Al-Ayadarus al-Baraawi in his book "Tales Of Times on the history Of Somal" published 1954 in Mogdisho. The Bani Makhzuum house is unquestionably Qurashite, and they founded Shawa , later obsorbed by Ifat/Awdal.

Also the Biblical Jewish "Moses" or even the Hebrews are never found in any historical Egptian documents, this part of history is entirly Jewish myth, some histotrians of Egypt came up with a better canidate of Moses in the person of Akhanaten the grand son of Amenhotep I.

Also, Said Barqash was a product of late 19 century not in the 10th century.

Last but not least, Daarood's (Abdirahman) father Ismail Al-Jabarti died in 1404 A.D according to starndard history which makes Daarood a mid 15 century personality not the 10th century, one can make a better comparison and put it this way , Daarood was a contemprary of Ahmed Guray's (1490-1541) father. You can use this book for refrence "Manaaqib al-arif bi-allah wal-daall alayh imaam al-sahri'a wa fakhr al-haqiiqa
Al-ustaad Al-sheekh Ismaaciil Bin Ibraahim Abdisamad al-Jabarti (d 802 A.H/1404) by Mustafa al-Baabee al-Halabee published in Cairo 1945.
Which is basically the biography of Daarood's father the man buried in Zabiid.

So you might wanna revise your "history" making Daarood the youngest Arab !!

[James Dahl]

"The Islamic Cushites however, the royal family, became the Somali. The last Emperor of Axum founds the Makhzumi sultanate of Shoa in the southern highlands"

James you need to brush up your Arab side of the theory ,your interpertations of ancient hisory however interesting you still assume the Bible as history book, the term "kush" is Biblical and it means "blacks" drived from so called "Curse Of Ham", in actual history there is no such a thing as Kushites, the Egyptians never refred to their southern neigbours as "Kush".

Actually they did, the Hebrew Bible borrowed the word Kush (Kas actually, in the original Egyptian) not the other way around. In Egyptian it does not mean black either, that is Kem. Also in the hebrew bible it is Canaan specifically who is cursed, not Ham, and this was just a political ploy rationalizing the conquest of Canaan.

The land of Sudan in history was always known as Kush.

The Bani Makhzum are a sub-clan of Quraysh and they are the tribe of Khalid Ibn Waliid the commander of early Muslims, The Bani Makhzumes settled as early as the 7th century in Mogadisho and later in Zayla , thats part of history of Arab migrations was detailed by the Ba'awali first Somalian historian Sharif Aydarus Sharif Ali Al-Ayadarus al-Baraawi in his book "Tales Of Times on the history Of Somal" published 1954 in Mogdisho. The Bani Makhzuum house is unquestionably Qurashite, and they founded Shawa , later obsorbed by Ifat/Awdal.

The problem is that I don't believe the dynasty was actually Makhzumi, I was using their historical name for familiarity's sake. The entire king list of Shoa is cushitic, even non-Muslim, which is frankly bizarre for recent Muslim Arab immigrants. I think the Aksumi dynasty have become confused with their neighbors, the Makhzumi kingdom of Zeila, who were never actually part of Shoa. This was confirmed when the Shoa capital was constantly placed at Zeila, when it was hundreds of miles away in the Shoan highlands. As I said I summarized a lot of things.

Also the Biblical Jewish "Moses" or even the Hebrews are never found in any historical Egptian documents, this part of history is entirly Jewish myth, some histotrians of Egypt came up with a better canidate of Moses in the person of Akhanaten the grand son of Amenhotep I.

The Qu'ran has a much more complete account of Moses/Akhenaten's time as ruler of Kush, and his marriage there, which is documented in that book which I own, Moses and Akhenaten.

Also, Said Barqash was a product of late 19 century not in the 10th century.

The 19th century slave trader is a different Siyad Barqash.

Last but not least, Daarood's (Abdirahman) father Ismail Al-Jabarti died in 1404 A.D according to starndard history which makes Daarood a mid 15 century personality not the 10th century, one can make a better comparison and put it this way , Daarood was a contemprary of Ahmed Guray's (1490-1541) father. You can use this book for refrence "Manaaqib al-arif bi-allah wal-daall alayh imaam al-sahri'a wa fakhr al-haqiiqa
Al-ustaad Al-sheekh Ismaaciil Bin Ibraahim Abdisamad al-Jabarti (d 802 A.H/1404) by Mustafa al-Baabee al-Halabee published in Cairo 1945.
Which is basically the biography of Daarood's father the man buried in Zabiid.

So you might wanna revise your "history" making Daarood the youngest Arab !!

This is simply impossible, sorry. Not only are there far too many generations for such a short time frame in event the incomplete Darood genealogy, which is missing at least 10 generations and even without the missing generations spans _at least_ 800 years, Darood is also contemporaneous with several 10th century figures.

[neocon_2007]

Besides the last remaining Daroods of Maakhir, theres no proof that the rest of the "Daroods" have survived. Abdiraxman Jabarti is buried on Maakhir soil and his decendents have continued his legacy.

[James Dahl]

Besides the last remaining Daroods of Maakhir, theres no proof that the rest of the "Daroods" have survived. Ismail Jabarti is buried on Maakhir soil and his decendents have continued his legacy.

Psst.. Darood's name is Abdirahman, Isma'il is his dad, and is buried in Yemen..

[neocon_2007]

[BABYGIRL123]

loool neacon is stupid.

[neocon_2007]

Babygirl123 bin Bermuda bin Burmutunti Oromo

[James Dahl]

loool neacon is stupid.

Nah I've seen tons of people make this mistake, don't know why.

I think it's because when Darood abtirsi they go "Darood Ismail Jabarti" and their brain then connects "Darood" with "Ismail Jabarti".
I've even caught myself doing it.

[Twisted_Logic]

Besides the last remaining Daroods of Maakhir, theres no proof that the rest of the "Daroods" have survived. Abdiraxman Jabarti is buried on Maakhir soil and his decendents have continued his legacy.

The Tuna-Heads have Spoken now and all shall bow-down

[BABYGIRL123]

James i know.

Neocon Bantu ga tahay cuun

[The_Emperior5]

Besides the last remaining Daroods of Maakhir, theres no proof that the rest of the "Daroods" have survived. Abdiraxman Jabarti is buried on Maakhir soil and his decendents have continued his legacy.

war wamaxay dadkaan magaca awoowgoood garranayn bal wa yaab
waleh kii jabarti jabb

[BABYGIRL123]

Jaberti adoo sheegaya dhimo amiin dheeh

[The_Emperior5]

babygirl The Emperior saluts you with waxyaalo taag taagaan