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Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:28 pm
by Ka darag
Cisse Westlake wrote:Ka darag wrote:Dude Cisse...what is there to argue about??Somalis are African end of....

..seriously some people have issues...
i am somali
Somalia is in Africa...have u never looked at a map?Cajiib..

Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:30 pm
by Cisse Westlake
ka darag
africa means nothing to me. so fock being african 8)
Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:36 pm
by QansaGabeyle
nalia, you lost that argument to FAh but u never stopped. wallahi u need to learn to stop arguing when you are proved wrong.

Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:17 pm
by ms.nalia
Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:20 pm
by FAH1223
ms.nalia wrote:QansaGabeyle wrote:nalia, you lost that argument to FAh but u never stopped. wallahi u need to learn to stop arguing when you are proved wrong.

lol....just because he got all meladramatic and started talkn about his grandparents small arse village doesnt mean he won anything.
If anything, I wont that argument. And if he wants to keep going......Ill get energizer bunny on his ass.
I'd like to see where he proved me wrong.
African Americans dont know their ancestors and he does? so what?
How does that make him not african ameircan?
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its not being melodramatic
im being factual and there aint nothin like knowin your roots
we are literally african american, however we know which african we are
so there is not much use to the word and the term has been coined by the africans who were brought here and dont know where they are from
i dunno why you don't get it, we may all hav come from africa, but i dont see why we would use a geo-political term instead of cultural/ethnic identifier
Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:22 pm
by Twisted_Logic
I am a Somali-American. What the F.uck is African-American?

Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:30 pm
by Grant
Do you talk about European-Americans or do you talk about Anglo-Americans, German-Americans, Italian-Americans etc.?
If you are an American citizen, I would call you a Somali-American.
Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:31 pm
by FAH1223
ms.nalia wrote:
FAH
1) I didnt call you a b!tch. I called your speech a b!tch.
2) If I wanted to insult you, I would have said worse things
3) You just proved my point that you call everyone of the same race a certain name. "Euro" "indhiyar" "carab".
4) So what if they dont know their forefathers? Do you think its a such a great thing that you knwo so much about "qabil" it destryoned your freakn country dude. Come correct.
You didn't have to insult my speech dude, you could have just disagreed without calling it a b1tch. C'mon, you're an older lady, you got more class than that
Euro has Spaniards, Talyani, Ingress, ect
Indhayar has Filipinos, Indonesian, Malay, Chinese
Carab got different sets of people due to their location too
so the labels we say, like african or asian or euro have different peoples underneath those big categories
i don't know much about qabil myself, but there is nothing wrong with having a sense of identity and knowing your roots, this doesn't have anything to do with superiority or anything like that, im just saying how it is (I respect african americans who go and do those DNA tests and find more about their people)
im probably the biggest anti-qabilist here, but qabil has to be used in the way it is in our religion...not to use it to put others down and kill each other based on it
Grant

Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:34 pm
by Twisted_Logic
ms.nalia wrote:
wtf?
Is Somalia not in Africa?
I find it funny when Somali people think they are a race of their own....
fok..y'll are african.
So what difference does it make if Somalia is located in Africa? Ethnicity has less to do with geographical location and more on cultural and traditional values. i don't see Chinese and Indian immigrants calling themselves Asian-Americans. They call themselves Chinese-American or Indian-American. Somalia has a unique historical and cultural background and is geographically separated from the rest of Africa by either the Ogaden Desert in the West or the Kenyan Buffer-zone. To me Africa starts from Ethiopia in the West and Kenya to the South. I have ZERO cultural and historical connection with some-one from Kenya or Ethiopia. It would be ludicrous of me to call myself African-American when the term Somali-American describes my unique heritage and cultural back-ground more accurately. To call myself African-American misses the point in entirely. It assumes that I have a cultural and traditional similarity with some-one from Nigeria or South-Africa. I don't

Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:22 pm
by QansaGabeyle
Twisted_Logic wrote:ms.nalia wrote:
wtf?
Is Somalia not in Africa?
I find it funny when Somali people think they are a race of their own....
fok..y'll are african.
So what difference does it make if Somalia is located in Africa? Ethnicity has less to do with geographical location and more on cultural and traditional values. i don't see Chinese and Indian immigrants calling themselves Asian-Americans. They call themselves Chinese-American or Indian-American. Somalia has a unique historical and cultural background and is geographically separated from the rest of Africa by either the Ogaden Desert in the West or the Kenyan Buffer-zone. To me Africa starts from Ethiopia in the West and Kenya to the South. I have ZERO cultural and historical connection with some-one from Kenya or Ethiopia. It would be ludicrous of me to call myself African-American when the term Somali-American describes my unique heritage and cultural back-ground more accurately. To call myself African-American misses the point in entirely. It assumes that I have a cultural and traditional similarity with some-one from Nigeria or South-Africa. I don't

well said. this is what FAh was trying to say and knuckle head nalia could not comprehend.
Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:25 pm
by dawwa9
Twisted_Logic wrote:I have ZERO cultural and historical connection with some-one from Kenya or Ethiopia.
Somalia and Ethiopia are almost the same people
The difference is like Sweden and Norway, Oman and Yemen Or Japan and South Korea
Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:26 pm
by QansaGabeyle
dawwa9 wrote:Twisted_Logic wrote:I have ZERO cultural and historical connection with some-one from Kenya or Ethiopia.
Somalia and Ethiopia are almost the same people
No they are not. Are you kidding me.
Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:26 pm
by Twisted_Logic
dawwa9 wrote:Twisted_Logic wrote:I have ZERO cultural and historical connection with some-one from Kenya or Ethiopia.
Somalia and Ethiopia are almost the same people
That's what the pro-Ethiopian lobby in Somalia wants us to believe. We will pass the buck

Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:29 pm
by dawwa9
A Xabashi and a Oromo are basically Somalis but from highlands

Re: African American or Somalian American
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:33 pm
by Twisted_Logic
dawwa9 wrote:A Xabashi and a Oromo are basically Somalis but from highlands

A Xabashi and Oromo are actually genetically quite different. One is a Semite and the other a Kushite.
