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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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Voltage wrote:Dawaa this is not a history class and you are not the teacher, ALL THE SOMALIS who went to middle east in the 70's and 80's were labourers and reer Waqooyi, you are right they were majority, but they were just laborers. There many studies that were done this and they all worked seasonal shifts.
Voltage,

Do you know when Emirates got their Independence, they asked SOMALIA to help for administrators to govern? Handful of Somalias were sent to UAE and they helped them to govern. Some are still live in Abudhabi.
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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Dubai only 1 hour flying to Bosaso and 2 hours to Mogadishu. :P

Without Dubai, the Somali economy would have been much worse. Luckily we have such a first world city close to us.
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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dawwa9 wrote:Dubai only 1 hour flying to Bosaso and 2 hours to Mogadishu. :P

Without Dubai, the Somali economy would have been much worse. Luckily we have such a first world city close to us.
That is true; Without Dubai life in Somalia would have been more difficult. from Dubai to Bosaso is a lot more than 1 hr. None stop to Mogadishu would take at least 4hrs.
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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Cawar, it took a little stagnation of the housing industry by way of unpaid subprime lending to put America's economy in jeopardy and you want to question the central position of the construction industry in Dubai's economy, in fact the economy of Dubai. Everything you mentioned is a product of the economy built upon the construction boom. It will take you a long time to understand and not something I want to even try educating you on.
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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Forbes Magazine
Rich But Fragile Gulf Markets
So it should be no surprise that the Gulf region became home to burgeoning property and stock markets as it looked like an easy one-way trade. But is it? The most important question is, of course, the future price of oil. When it almost reached $150 earlier this year, the futurists predicted $200 and then on to $300, but instead it fell below $100.

The rub is that the development of large, complicated and expensive property projects are built on assumptions of future prices, costs and revenues. And in the Gulf region the costs of construction are escalating in terms of both materials and labor. Double-digit inflation is the norm rather than the exception. Plus the rapid increase in real estate prices and overbuilt property markets will likely lead to a correction.

A Morgan Stanley (nyse: MS - news - people ) report focuses on Dubai and expects that the oversupply will hit the market in 2009, leading to a 10% decline in prices in 2010. I suspect that the decline will come much sooner and be considerably sharper, since the report mentions that "In Dubai, the Land Department has recorded a fourfold increase in land prices since 2000. Although this is driven in part by genuine demand, speculative investment has also contributed to the price rises, in our view."...

...Lower oil revenues, higher costs, overbuilt supply--it is not a pretty picture. And if property markets are in decline, is there any hope that stock markets might still stay firm? No way, since property and finance companies loom large in the region's exchanges....

In the past three months the MSCI Gulf index has dropped more than a fifth and is down 30% year to date. The Dubai Financial Market has been the worst performer in the region in the past three months, having given up nearly a third of its value. And foreign investors have been net sellers since the beginning of 2008, putting additional pressure on property prices and oil prices to shore up confidence in the market....

...Barring a strong rebound in oil prices or massive government support of the market, the direction of Gulf markets will mirror the region's property markets in a downward spiral.
http://www.forbes.com/finance/global/2008/1013/050.html


Now do you understand the validity of my earlier statement?
What you see is a construction boom with capital provided by oil, a state-run economy. Majority of what you see as "investment" and "development" is a result of this construction boom, that is the construction boom IS the economy and everything else is a product of it, including the need for migrant laborers and foreign investment.

Once the construction boom ceases, then the Arabs will realize what they have built is a house, with no foundation, unfurnished and bare from the inside.

Booms------->always end in------->Busts.
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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Voltage

Unlike you I admit that I am no expert in economics..but neithr do you... sound that genious about it ..
Infact you come off as the oppsoite fo what you claim.. one who holds a vast knowledge of economic matters. :mrgreen:

In anycase...or in layman's term.. UAE has a lot of bussiness and economic boom going on..and we see no reason to suspect that their dowfall is just right around the corner.

Big :up: to them is all I can say..since I am no predictor of future events.
Only Allah can with certainty..and the experts can try..but I dont see you as one. No pun intended.

PS. I dont need an article from the internet to feel good about my economic expertise..neither should you..unless you have some other reason.
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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Cawar don't take it the wrong way. I am not and economics student and I am the last to pretend so but I do like paying attention to news and that includes financial news. Also, I have taken some econ classes and am familiar with the topic. That doesn't mean I am "pretending" to be something I am not. Rather you just need to admit I correct you on an incorrect assumption.

But that's kool, no problem. :up: :mrgreen:
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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The UAE has smart leaders, and they know what they do. The Dubai bubble wont burst.

Sheikh Al Maktoum is a very smart leader



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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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dawwa9 wrote:The UAE has smart leaders, and they know what they do. The Dubai bubble wont burst.

Sheikh Al Maktoum is a very smart leader

Seriously, how old are you? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You have got to be 15-18. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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What the hell are you talking about?

You always come with weird shit that doesn't matter, that what I dislike about you.
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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oh this matters very much as gleaned from your naivete. How old are you? Again, my guess is 15-18? :lol:
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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Voltage if you are not an economics student stop the faan..... by the way what do you really study?
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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He must study something that is not an Exact Science, judging by his posts his tiny brain wouldn't be able to handle that. He probably studies something lame or easy as Law.
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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Suldaan, I am a pre-medical student and as of right now I am on the path of completing a double major in microbiology and communications.
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Re: Another 1000 meter skyscraper in Dubai

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^I study Civil Engineering with a minor in Geology.

I bet your sorry Marehan ass wouldn't be able to handle the amount of Math and Hard Sciences I handle.

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