Sudanese build artificial lakes, Somalis build...

[peace-]

Abushaba I actually thought you were intelligent and full of reflection.

go to Google Earth and see for yourself the burning of Darfur villages ,

I dont have any problem with supporting Sudan and Al Bashir against West and at the same time condemning him for his unIslamic acts of atrocities in Darfur against his fellow muslims.

George Bush's troops in Iraq bombed civilians and blamed it on the insurgents. Some of his troops disguised as Iraqis and went or shooting/bombing rampage that killed many civilians. The Darfur armed factions who work for and were armed by the West, did what George Bush's troops did in Iraq.

man i love islam but boy i hate religious muslims, becuase most of them intent to be ignorant bastar-ds

[loggic]

whatever theory you believe and wether this is true or not how much we both want it to be Abushabab. You cannot deny the core fact our countries are missing the fundamental power of keeping such western influence at bay.
I give you a hint China that should be our phase of desire.
Free economy
Safety
Education
Infrastructure

still in full control of their massive country
If I Would follow your logic it was the americans that made the Tibet monks to rise and demonstrate right ?.....
ninyow wake up and smell the hot Somali qaxwaa

no petty organization like Al Qaida or those Arab petro dollars injected in every thinkable 'islamic ' movement all over the world is gonna make us rise up from the dirt we are in.The real question is what can we do about it wisely.
What you have to understand brother AbuShab is that we as muslims and africans foremost must learn more than anyone else how big geopolitical games work out in our time.
We can only learn by quietly observing and following the rules.

It is actually possible to kick out the ethiopians
forgiving eachother steadly and under radar building our economy and country.
loyalty and Islam is all we need.

one traitor among us is more deadly then any foreign army.
No strong nation can ever be conquered without being sick from the inside.

Somalia is the perfect example
both Al Shabab , UIC and TFG are diseases ....
We have yet to find the cure to our problems

[peace-]

whatever theory you believe and wether this is true or not how much we both want it to be Abushabab. You cannot deny the core fact our countries are missing the fundamental power of keeping such western influence at bay.
I give you a hint China that should be our phase of desire.
Free economy
Safety
Education
Infrastructure

still in full control of their massive country
If I Would follow your logic it was the americans that made the Tibet monks to rise and demonstrate right ?.....
ninyow wake up and smell the hot Somali qaxwaa

no petty organization like Al Qaida or those Arab petro dollars injected in every thinkable 'islamic ' movement all over the world is gonna make us rise up from the dirt we are in.The real question is what can we do about it wisely.
What you have to understand brother AbuShab is that we as muslims andafricans foremost must learn more than anyone else how big geopolitical games work out in our time.

we must also learn to distinguish between arab nationalism and islam

[AbuShabab]

Somalia is the perfect example
both Al Shabab , UIC and TFG are diseases ....

Is it your personal opinion or a fact that Al Shabab , UIC and TFG are diseases?

[peace-]

Somalia is the perfect example
both Al Shabab , UIC and TFG are diseases ....

Is it your personal opinion or a fact that Al Shabab , UIC and TFG are diseases?

why do u have picture of an Indonesian man convicted on terrorism charge on display

[loggic]

Somalia is the perfect example
both Al Shabab , UIC and TFG are diseases ....

Is it your personal opinion or a fact that Al Shabab , UIC and TFG are diseases?

It is a truth to be discovered by Somali people

[AbuShabab]

why do u have picture of an Indonesian man convicted on terrorism charge on display

'Cause it isn't a crime to have such a picture.

It is a truth to be discovered by Somali people

What if majority of Somalis believe Al-Shabaab isn't a disease but a grassroots movement they love and support? Whose truth would right? Yours or the truth of millions of Somalis?

[SummerRain]

Nice. I would love to visit someday.

[loggic]

Abushabab

Majority of Somalis wants an Islamic just republic with opportunities and safety.
we dream of our future marine to border our rich coast and territorial waters , our long border to be patrolled to every inch.
We want a professional institution run by qualified Somalis.

not TFG secular not fundamentalist UIC / Al Shabab.

Majority of Somalis are dreaming of a pragmatic and smart leadership that knows we wont get back Ogaaden and NFD in short term but must work it out in the long.
A strong Somalia rich and build up is what our occupied brothers need help from in the future.

mark my words Wallahi I believe taking back NFD from Kenya will be like a peace a cake.
I am even sure of Oromos in North East region second to ours will join us.
Only a balcanization of Ethiopia can give us Ogaaden back.

maybe its coming you never know
people were surprised when the berlin wall fell in 1989
I doubt any westernes will care about a rag tag african nation like ethiopia falling naturally apart in the future.

thats when we should snatch back Ogaden
and make a game of amharaland and tigrayland
let them fight eachother the next 400 years.


And by the way no I dont believe Al Shabab is a legitimate grassroot movement
its more of a arab sponsored terrorist monster organization , its a disease thats currently attacking another disease , its like having Cholera and TB at the same time poor mother Somalia.

I doubt illiterate brainwashed youth will AK47 is the best option to Somalia as leadership.
People may support Al Shabab now , but I warn you of this monster it will eat your hand sooner or later. its twofaced.

[AbuShabab]

Majority of Somalis are dreaming of a pragmatic and smart leadership that knows we wont get back Ogaaden and NFD in short term but must work it out in the long.

Did you poll majority of Somalis about what sort of leadership they dream about?

[loggic]

I can feel it how people who read it agree with me.

if not make a poll yourself and see the result burn your eyes.

example

reer Somalia what do you want

Al Shabab government or Professional Institution to run our country freely. = the best most qualified people among us versus Al Shabab victors after ethiopians withdraw.

I am sure the shababians wont even give them the chance
since Somalia will become another Talibanstan under them with no freedom of speech or power to the people.

just a bunch of illiterate criminals with cimaamad

[AbuShabab]

example

reer Somalia what do you want

Al Shabab government or Professional Institution to run our country freely. = the best most qualified people among us versus Al Shabab victors after ethiopians withdraw.

Such a poll was made many times. The result was overwhelming support for Al-Shabaab. Majority of Somalis don't want a Professional Institution to run our country freely, 'cause there's no such a successful example a Professional Institution. So, what if majority of Somalis want the un-Professional Institution of Al-Shabaab?

[loggic]

then long live the anarchy and isbaaro

[AbuShabab]

then long live the anarchy and isbaaro

But Al-Shabaab successfully put an end to that in 2006.

[loggic]

Abushabab what do you think of the UIC terror acts in Somaliland , Awdal and Hargeisa regions. the killing of a kenyan woman working for NGO gunned down in Hargeisa
or the murders of an elderly couple running a school in Borama.
It was done UIC / '

what do you think about sheikh morgan?
he was easily pardoned in the name of Islam by your sheikh aweys for the killings of thousands of isaaqs in 1989

one thing is for sure
south somalia and Somaliland will never be one again

97 % of SL people voted yes in referendum.

wether you win against the other disease or not
its for you to respect that.
So please dont send suicide bombers under the name of Allah to our cities when you have destroyed whats left of Somalia.

By the way Al Shabab never put end to anything back in 2006.
remember how useless you are
it was the business community and people that fought off the warlords.
dont take credit for what you have not achieved.
All they wanted was peace and new future but you had to take it far out and destroy the little