alshabaab oo la siiyey 75 xubnood barlamanka cusub

[kambuli]

Emperior,

First you don't know me and I don't know you. All I am judging is what you post.

You said. "Anarchy and the warlordism is good and Meel walba waa la dhisayey"

Still your president Riyaale is not your tribe...That is the fact. You don't want Anarchy in Hargeysa but you want Anarchy in Muqadisho...So that the Ictiraaf comes..

Iska daa xaaisidnimada ninyahow...Why would you bring in Siyad Barre? He was gone for almost 20 yrs...So don't try to be sneaky..In one thread you are saying "Wixii Xamar ka yaimaadda ha la qabqabto" in another thread you are saying" Walaalahayo weeye" In another thread you are saying 'Keep the Anarchy"

Waan kuu baqayaa waayoo adiga oo kale si xun buu dhintaa

[The_Emperior5]

xammar wixii jooga iyaka walalo ah wa run they are there own brothers wadankoda bay joogayaan dawlad wa inay wadankooda ka dhistaan thats all.
Dee xammer was not a hell when the warlords where there meello badan ba sii fiican oo dhisna , imikay tigraygu sii fiiican dhulka ula siimeen with you and your people when they invaded the place. laakin don't put my words out of context I said hawiye people must unite to fight here commen enemys and they should make a mamuul called banadir state of Somalia a hawiye administration thats what i was saying the past 3 4 days .
what does rayaale got to do with this rayaale dadkisa doortay. xil ba loo dhiibtay.
ictraaf kuma xidhna what happends in xammer or in kismayo international communitygay ku xidhantahay saa ula soco.

[kambuli]

Emperior,

The Tigre are in Hargeysaa too walaal. The only difference is Mogadisho people stood up against them. They didn't want them. Buy In Hargeysa a red carpet is spread for them. I know this and you know it too...So stop acting as if you are not aware. You were the one saying, they are our brothers.

I have no problem with Riyaale...All I am saying is if it is Ok for you guys to make a government and you don't want an Anarchy and your government is not confined to Isaaq only why are you advocating for an only Hawiye Government..People in the South are not only Hawiye...

At the end of the day all your voice is for the Ictiraaf...

[snoop12]

ok hawiye so called leaders(moriyans) killed and chased somali civilians(who were not from their tribe) to the kenyan border, then what happened they invaded multiple regions creating havoc, they enslaved a whole region(lower shabelle) and raped 90% of the women in xamar. Even that was not enough, they turned against each other killing each other daily for 19 years and here we are today.

is that what you want people to support,???

[The_Emperior5]

Emperior,

The Tigre are in Hargeysaa too walaal. The only difference is Mogadisho people stood up against them. They didn't want them. Buy In Hargeysa a red carpet is spread for them. I know this and you know it too...So stop acting as if you are not aware. You were the one saying, they are our brothers.

I have no problem with Riyaale...All I am saying is if it is Ok for you guys to make a government and you don't want an Anarchy and your government is not confined to Isaaq only why are you advocating for an only Hawiye Government..People in the South are not only Hawiye...

At the end of the day all your voice is for the Ictiraaf...

just because the tigray invaded xammer it does not mean they are in hargeysa or somaliland yeah they use our ports . just like they where using djibouti ports
when did they came to somaliland tigraygu in 2001 when we let them use our port
or in 1991 or 2006 when Ethiopia invaded xammer. bal waxay ku sheekeyneyso eeg.

konfuurta somaliya hawiya laga daga in the south its hawiye dominand area. awal ba abdilahi ciise ba ka raisal wasaara ah hawiye mejeerten iyo merexaan wattay.

because hawiye needs to unite first then other smal clans aya kuraasiida loo qeybinaya but not the other way around that will not work .

[kambuli]

Emperior, quote " because hawiye needs to unite first then other smal clans aya kuraasiida loo qeybinaya but not the other way around that will not work ."

Iminka ayaad in yar oo la fahmi karo qortey...If Hawiye unites and brings peace into Mogadisho, that is a victory for every Somali..

But tell me why is it ok for you guys to have Riyaale who hails from a smaller tribe compared to Isaaq to have the the highest postion? If that can happen in Hargeysa and you are ok with it...You should be ok when the same thing happens in Mogadisho...

[ciyaal_warta]

275 delegates from Jabuti should be ours. Why share the fruits of our labor with teenagers from minority clans?

coz da teenagers were da one freeed ur arse while ur pple were sittin siinaay and karaaan dammmn secularist

[abdikarim86]

kambuli when hawiye make peace then they can give the seat to someone else

riyaale came to powerafter isaaq made peace and guess who made peace betweeen the isaaq
it was samaroon

your people on the other hand instead of making peace you fan the fire of controversy to
further your aims and make sure the war goes on longer

btw hawiye peace is not linked to ictiraaf

[kambuli]

Abdikariim.

The funny thing is "Who are my people?"...

Yes and you know it your Ictiraaf depends on the anarchy of Mogadisho...

But as I said the peace of Hawiye is the victory of every walking Somali...Not the Somalidiids like you..

Come with us and let us build a nation based on peace and justice..don't be greedy...If you really love Hawiye come join us..

[Voltage]

Jabartis want us to die...we want to live....We can't compromise on that.

god help you.

[Voltage]

And don't give me the bullshid that Xamar was better with warlords than with Siad Barre regime. How does a half destroyed capital with ALMOST NO public institutions help anyone?

How the hell can you keep blaming one clan in the North, THE Ethiopians, and the Americans for 18 years of lawlessness?

The Ethiopians have taken advantage of our isolationism and have played the Somalis like puppets. It is no coincidence that your man Riyaale, the head man of Puntland, and most Somali warlords make their monthly "hajj" of sorts to Addis to speak to their "massa" like some defacated field niggers.

[Voltage]

3. Why are you promoting ANARCHY in the south? Is that the only hope for ICTIRAAF?

Apparently that seems to be the strategy for Somaliland recognition.

[The_Emperior5]

voltage a stable neigbor is good for somaliland

fah rayaale has been more times in Djibouti then in adis ababa, besides We let Ethiopia use our ports xidhid aad oo fiican baanaga dhexeyaa

and thats going to stay like that even when melez is long gone.

[Ina Baxar]

The daroods are the biggest munaafaqs of all .
First of all to correct the abdikarim guy here , it is NOT samaroon who brought peace to the Isaaqs , it is WE the Isaaqs who made peace with each other .
Riyaale inherited the seat after Cigaal's death .. at that point we had 2 options
1/ Either push him aside and appoint another Isaaq president ..in essence remain a one TRIBE entity ..{like majeertenya, a one subclan of the darood "country"}
or
2/ Apply the rules on the book and let the vice president take the chair and show the rest of the Somalis that we do not have any problem with NON ISAAQ being recognised as they should .

When CY was first brought to power , virtually ALL daroods in here supported him , including the mareexans , so let's not kid each other here .

Ther fact to the matter is , all southereners CANNOT agree on anything for they are too greedy like tghe daroods southerners {Ogaden,majeerten , mareexan} or have weak tribal foundation like the Hawiye .

[The_Emperior5]

Emperior, quote " because hawiye needs to unite first then other smal clans aya kuraasiida loo qeybinaya but not the other way around that will not work ."

Iminka ayaad in yar oo la fahmi karo qortey...If Hawiye unites and brings peace into Mogadisho, that is a victory for every Somali..

But tell me why is it ok for you guys to have Riyaale who hails from a smaller tribe compared to Isaaq to have the the highest postion? If that can happen in Hargeysa and you are ok with it...You should be ok when the same thing happens in Mogadisho...

naa hee dhe that happend 2004 remmeber markaa adeerka la soo doortay.
and what did he do halku dabka bakhtin laha ayuu argoosii bilaabay against the hawiye people. laakin walaga dabba iman doona, oo galkacyo bala gubii doona oo bossaso ba la gubii doona oo ilahay igu oogyahay nin walba oo hawiye ah ciid ba ka maqan,