Real talk: we are in a coma!

[Murax]

It's not man, that's the only negative aspect of you Southerners coining the Isaaq group as 1.
It's like we don't even break down after that, wtf

Cut the bullshit, the dude is reer uunsi.

This Guy's funny


Wara if I ever get with a MR girl I'm gonna have to steal that sick line of Yours "Forever Your boo and Inadeer as well..Hugs and kisses"


I'm sure that put a smile on the pretty Idoor girl's face

[Voltage]

Voltage,

Sxb for awhile I've been hearing this passive type talk from You saying theres no reason for Marexaan to take an inititive, sooner or later it will be in the hands of a Gov anyway etc. This logic is wrong and makes no sense. 1st of all, Somalia hasn't had a Gov for 20 years and nobody is trying to wait another 20 without basic Gov instiutions. This Gov may work out, or it May not but right is on the side of Xoogsade on this one in not waiting for the calvalry to save the day. You need to change that passive thinking.

It comes out as "passive" simply because I don't feel comfortable rooting for war in some godforsaken faraway land from my comfortable American surroundings.

Sxb, I went that hellhole. I saw it with my own eyes. I saw how our people live from Kenya to Somalia to Uganda. I have seen the despair in the streets, the uncertainty in people's eyes, the hopelessness, and the fact people were planning crossing on rickety boats through tumultous waters just to escape that hell or trek all those lands and conceive of all sorts of hopeless plans to get to where I live today.

Whether Marehan is all powerful or not, I feel as affected by the Ogaden or Gaaljecel or Raxanweyn they have to trample over to reach retarded form of power in the biggest hellhole on earth. What makes me immune to Ogaden suffering when I condone my Marehan to collect money and weapon to rule over them?

For the last three years I have been slowly moving away from thinking in the single prism I used to thinking in to accepting all Somalis as close to me as any Marehan is and being affected by any and all suffering by any Somali in that wretched land called Somalia.

That is why I wanted to go to Africa and see for myself and it reinforced the opinion I had already been forming. The fact of the matter is Marehanimo is NOT greater than Somalinimo and being Marehan does not give me the right to ignore all suffering and despair of Somalis especially when it could potentially come at the hands of my own Marehan people.

I want peace, security, prosperity, happiness, ingenuity, development for Marehan and Gedo/Caabudwaaq.

But the thing is I want it for all other Somalis as well.

To be honest, when I look at Qansa go and read something such as Mareexaan > Somalinimo I just shake my head and realize why we still don't have a government. That is such a sad and ignorant opinion it's even beyond believable. He lives in the U.S in a country where his Americaness is validated on account of being just a citizen, went to college, had all that chance as not even white but also not even an original American Black. What brought him and what gave him the opportunity to restart a new life here? But when it comes to his country of birth and tribalism politics his thinking is 100% primitive and jaahil. I hope he can open his eyes.

[Shilka Jr.]

Voltage made a great point.

I'm personally not part of your guys' "community" but I can say with conviction that everyone needs to start looking at the bigger picture. When Somaliland was inching closer to Dhahar, my dad was advocating for Maxakiimta on radio, paying no attention to Puntland. His words were, "I don't care if my elder is in office, I will support the Maxakiim on the principle that they promised to cleanse Somalia with the Quran and no one else is doing so."

I sort of understand this dilemma with the Marehan community. Its not something to panic about.

The only question I have is why the TPLF is so strong in Marehan communities. When Shabaab or Maxakiim rule in other cities, its always peaceful, but it seems like there's always ruckus in Baardheere or Belet Xawo.

[Murax]

Voltage,


When did I ever advocate for clan wars? When did I say that We should strongarm everybody in Jubboinka and act like overlords? Clan wars are barbaric and I'm not advoating for one. Everything should be done politically, diplomatically with wada hadal. Right now the cadow in Jubboinka isn't Qabil X or Qabil Y like the old days but its an idealogy. As far as I'm concerned today Raxanwein lands are occupied, so are Absame lands in addition to Marexaan lands. Sure these Shabab brought some good things, but I'm sorry don't feel comfortable with people ruling Baardheere, Garbaharey saying "We're Al Qaeda, and We're taking the Shariah to Alaska". What benefit is it having Your lands be magnets for B 52 and Naval Gunships? These Guys are not a longterm solution. When I said right is on the side of Xoogsade I didn't mean I didn't mean armed conflict, but I do believe in He and Warsame's advocation of building institutions. That doesn't have to be done militiarly. This has nothing to do with qabilnimo, and all to do with wanting a better life for Your relatives back Home!


Btw ask a Madhibaan in Puntland, or a Fiqishini in Somaliland if life improved for them When these States were formed


Paidmonk,

Gedo shares a border with Ethiopia thus explaining the interference and meddling. In addition Ethiopia wants all these little 'Federal' states like Somaliland, Puntland, Jubbaland so they can divide/rule the people and they can pay tribute to Addis like those aforementioned states do. That being said I still advocate for the creation of such a state in Jubboinka because it would improve the lives of people on the ground there

[Lite-Somali]

Very simple.


If You look at Marexaan recent History from the late 1980's to about 2000, Marexaan have been in constant nonstop clan wars. Raxanwein, Col Cabbas campaigns against Ogadeen, then the Darood Vs Hawiye wars, then USC in Gedo, then JVA campaigns against Harti/Absame, then Garre in Elwak. Marexaan pretty much had their way militiarly in all of these wars. By the time 2000 came there was literily nobody else left to fight as Marexaan consolidated their power in the South. When it was time for Marexaan to build something Gov't wise they slowly started turning on each other. Then these groups like Shabab came and swept up the youth who were sick of this nonsense.

Murax u made an excellent point Beesha SADE has been fighting a raging clan war since 1980s till present SADE had consolidated its rule in southern Somalia with standing and out lasting other clans militarily, I think what has happened to Marexaan clan is Hawiyanization or Xamarization the syndrome where one is engaged in warefare so long they do not have the skills to form or run a system to administer law and order example a government or mini state we see these syndromes in Beesha SADE we have engaged in war and have crushed all opponents that we have become a mini microcosm of Xamar, except in the Xamar case its major sub clans of the Hawiya while in our case its sub clans of the same clan the Marexaan clan which feud and fight, its very sad the level of animosity and rivalry that is displayed by Howrarsame vs Cali dheer and Dini vs other sub clans it has to be addressed we must put our house in order