Children of Older Fathers Have Lower IQs

[Cali_Gaab]

Abdiwahab, if this study is proven to be true then i guess its too late for you to have bright children.

If you have children now they'll be dumb enough not to remember to breath.

[DamallaXagare]

It all varies and no one person can excell in all of the cognitive skills, yes multiple but not all. (Like Concenration, memory and thinking but slow in speaking)

I deduced a correlation of what Islam preaches from this study.

1. Islam commands to marry at young age.

2. It has as well urged how important it's to breastfeed the child and for women to stay at home and nurture her children for their proper growth.

[dynamic]

my father had me a 43 , and im intellectualy above average

[DamallaXagare]

Dynamics, trust me. This study has corroborated inm imperical terms what Islam teaches us.

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

It all varies and no one person can excell in all of the cognitive skills, yes multiple but not all. (Like Concenration, memory and thinking but slow in speaking)

I deduced a correlation of what Islam preaches from this study.

1. Islam commands to marry at young age.

2. It has as well urged how important it's to breastfeed the child and for women to stay at home and nurture her children for their proper growth.

You raise some excellent points.

I was reading on bbc, that the recommended age gap between sibilings should be about 2/3 years, and Islamically were told to breastfeed a kid for 2 years and if people did this, by the time they have another kid, the first one would be like 3 years or nearly, by the time the other kid comes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4918662.stm

Salaam

[eyes-only]

That study sounds baseless, obviously I'd have to look at their research techniques and data to believe a word of what's on that article.

The most obvious contradiction is their claim that children born to older women do better due to the presumed increase in household income....why can't the same be true for older men? Surely a teenage father is not likely to contribute to the psychological, intellectual and emotional development of the child better than an older father. It all sounds rubbish to me.

[Basra-]

[quote="eyes-only"]That study sounds baseless, obviously I'd have to look at their research techniques and data to believe a word of what's on that article.

The most obvious contradiction is their claim that children born to older women do better due to the presumed increase in household income....why can't the same be true for older men? Surely a teenage father is not likely to contribute to the psychological, intellectual and emotional development of the child better than an older father. It all sounds rubbish to me.[/quote]


eyes only....as usual u r an oxy-moron.


You missed the point of the whole article. The article mainly maintains that younger fathers sperms are healthier, than older.That Women have no play whatsoever on the full biological develop-mental of the baby. (aside from the none biological, more social aspect of course; that of providing security of money and attention that come with the older mother.In otherwise, an older financially established mother can nurture the child more attentively than the young mother running to do a lot of things like tackle jobs, life, etc etc)

quote}"By contrast, children with older mothers generally performed higher on the cognitive measures, a finding in line with most other studies, suggesting that these children may benefit from the more nurturing home environments associated with the generally higher income and education levels of older mothers, researchers said."uquote}





What is amazing is that--- the mother has no absolute bearing on the effect to a child. No biological effect at all. It assumes intelligence, cognitive capabilities all stem from the sperms of a young, vibrant father.That the mother basically is a carrying womb busket? Should we be offended or thrilled at the idea of blaming the father if the child grows up retarded or dumb? Logicly, i think this is bull-shiit! Biologically, i think it makes sense.After all, it is the man that supplies the seed for the plant to grow. The healthyness of the seed is paramount.A tired, old defected seed produces somewhat slow, bi polar little muktaars. But what does that really say? That all somalis are fcuked up? I bet all of you here are children of an older father-- at least older than 40 when your parents had you.(i bet that is because of your young age and that your mother is not the first wife, ma ha?) Does this explain our somali collective attention deficit disorder symdrome? Does it explain our cognitive stubborness and the tendancy to eat baasto while making loud,symphony of teeth noise? Something to ponder and be annoyed at ...ma ha....

[DamallaXagare]

Warsan, thanks for the link. The 2 year Horizon is proved to be a precise terminal period of breastfeeding.



Basra illustrated some good points. We Somalis
marry at whichever, persumably older ages.

but don't postpone that long in hopes of illusive riches.

27-31 is the best for men, methinks.

[Basra-]

Damalla

u have not answered my question. R u Warsangeli by qabil?

[eyes-only]

Basra. You're calling me an oxymoron? ....now that's funny

Back to your point....I got the gist of whatever was in that article....I know they were referring more to the biological aspects but surely if that be the case, then other considerations should also be made such as genetic deficiencies carried by both parents which should not be affected by the age factor of the male parent's sperm. There are so many external factors which could render the claims in that research baseless...for example the mother could be a drunk and the problems shown by the child could be as a result of foetal alcohol syndrome. Giving birth to intellectually handicapped offspring may have absolutely nothing to do with the father...since the effects of alcohol on the development of the child is very well recorded.

I would only believe the findings of this research if it was conducted using siblings born to the same couples at different ages. At least that would make it controlled.


About Somalis, I think it has more to do with the effects of war, nuclear waste and broken homes....absolutely nothing to do with the age of their fathers' sperm when they were being conceived. Mukhtaar is probably the result of a broken home....or he's just one of those freaks of nature that come about once in a blue moon.

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

I bet all of you here are children of an older father-- at least older than 40 when your parents had you.(i bet that is because of your young age and that your mother is not the first wife, ma ha?) Does this explain our somali collective attention deficit disorder symdrome? Does it explain our cognitive stubborness and the tendancy to eat baasto while making loud,symphony of teeth noise? Something to ponder and be annoyed at ...ma ha....

Salaam

[Afraa*]

AW,

This is a "NOTE TO SELF"?!?!?!?!

[DANGIRL]

Larry King's boys are in for a rude awakening.

[SummerRain]

Larry King's boys are in for a rude awakening.

Ayeeyo when are we gonna meet for Baaris iyo Hilib?

[big_strong_man]

It's best to ignore these sort of studies until they can precisely tell us WHY old-man sperm leads to dumber children or, at least, they present stronger statistical evidence for their case.