At last the truth finally emerges

[Enlightened~Sista]

ES,

Truth is relative, you of all people should be knowing that, but I do respect your view & agree with the lines that we have to always learn from past events. If you take the so called Alshabaab it is true that they have used some various wrong strategies in the past but some how they seem that they are learning.

Just see :

1.Kismaayo is doing well under their rule?
2.Baidhabo is also so great & peaceful under their rule?
3.Marka Cadeey and Shabeellada hoose are better of with out Indhacade who happens to be in the government now?

If Sherif who was a geography teacher & the former head of the so called Alshabaab became the Mr. President then why not another one among them? It is just matter of time right? So far one can argue that they seem succeeding group whilest the government is failing. Both of them are going under the process but in different directions. One seems a rising group by learning from their past mistakes whilest the other group seems that it repeating the same miscalculations of adeero Yusuf's era. Sherif's group seems that they are already lost the plot.

Besides, If places like Baidhabo etc are safe haven then why we should wish any bad thing to happen to the people who live there? Why we should wish a whole destruction on those who live peacefully under the rule of wadaados?

How have they learned Farancab? Havent they blasted 100+ overwhelmingly innocent ppl into smitherenes in the last few days.


So they have restored peace to those towns..thats good but Shaykh Shariif would have done exactly that, if given the chance. However elsewhere they only created hostility and chaos..check this video...the residents of Dhuusomareb dont seem all that happy with Al Shabaab


Al Shabab are bad news. They are not patriots. They lack wisdom. May Allah s.w.t in his infinite power rid us of them once and for all for we have suffered for so long amiin.

[nomadicwarlord]

So far Al-Shabaab has lost its motives. I'm sure, Al-Qaeda leadership prolly anticipated the United States and other western powers would've sent troops to Somalia by now. The U.S will never repeat its mistakes it made in Iraq. In the end, Somalia is not worth it. United States and other allies on the war on terror, don't mind bombing Somalia from the air, for as long as it wants.


Even if Al-Shabaab captures the capital and the entire south. Somalia needs billions of dollars to rebuild. These pagans don't know how to run a country. The foreign powers will just blockade Somalia and bleed the population to death. Hopefully, a revolution will occur among Somalis and get our nation back from these mentally ill Muslims.

[GENERAL_SNM]

Al-Shabab is no different from the warlords they abuse the innocent victims who have had the bad luck of living within their ranch, then use the deen as justification. If they succeed in the south they wont stop even after they control all of somalia, all you'll get with them is a never ending war of global proportions...

[Elan Morin Tedronai]

Today the only safe cities in the south are kismayo and baidoa. Guess who rules them?

The proof is in the pudding. Soon the sons of somalia will free every inch of somalia from western backed puppets inshallah. The day has come when somalis have refused to allow galo raac to dictate the affairs of the country.

sharif had the chance in jauary. But his lust for power and ass kissing the galo of amisom and his insistence of relying on foreign powers for protection has destroyed his government.

surah maid verse 51 has exposed sharif for what he is. what a shame really. can't believe i supported this guy once.

[nomadicwarlord]

When Al-Shabaab is done, they goin to be popping some Champagne. Cheers to all Al-Shabaab supporters. HALLELUJAH

[GENERAL_SNM]

Spilling a single drop of a muslim blood is worse then knocking down the kabba, and Al-Shabab have dropped enough muslim blood to fill a river...

Killing muslims and then claiming they are gaalo raac and not giving them a chance of a fair trail is not what Islams about and suicide bombing is most deffo not. What they are doing is criminal under any book and thats including the quran..
Picking out verses from the quran that might sound like they are justifying suicide bombing and murder doesn't make it right. The deen of the prophet pbuh is one of justice and fairness the one of al-shabab is brutal and unfair...

[Cawar]

I have predicted that this TFG and its Sharif wont last a year..Esp. without the Ethiopians help..
and it seems to be headed for total collapse in that same time frame.


Lemme give you another prediction..if Shabab and Aweis prevail right now.there will be a brief period of relative peace and tranquility ..perhaps..
And it will be back to square one again..or even worse..cos I dont see Aweis as a legitimite and free from bias of qabilism.
In fact , I consider him to be worse than AY, Aidid combined..cos he is hiding under the banner of Islam..when he clearly wants the Kursi for himself and his qabil.


You guys are deluded for thinking otherwise, and you will certainly be disapointed once he becomes the next somali supreme Ayatollah.

[Hyperactive]

I have predicted that this TFG and its Sharif wont last a year..Esp. without the Ethiopians help..
and it seems to be headed for total collapse in that same time frame.


Lemme give you another prediction..if Shabab and Aweis prevail right now.there will be a brief period of relative peace and tranquility ..perhaps..
And it will be back to square one again..or even worse..cos I dont see Aweis as a legitimite and free from bias of qabilism.
In fact , I consider him to be worse than AY, Aidid combined..cos he is hiding under the banner of Islam..when he clearly wants the Kursi for himself and his qabil.

You guys are deluded for thinking otherwise, and you will certainly be disapointed once he becomes the next somali supreme Ayatollah.

salam welcome back monsieur cawar, i agree with you and not only aweys but most of them not free of qabilism, and you will see alshahar al3asar will finish right after they win against sharif and gangs and ayaga isku so jeesan doona!!. and ko dar the Turk guy too.

i consider AY is/was lesar evils!!

[Cumar-Labasuul]

TFG are not the answer to our problems, neither are foreign troops however when compared to Alshabab they are acceptable. Alshabab are ideally the warlords of the past who threw on an cimaamad and pashtun clothes hiding their faces so that they are not recognised. As for those cities that are occupied by Alshabab the reason you think they are peaceful is that there is no one reporting it: in cities like Kismayo they are stoning innocent girls without proper witnesses, killing anyone who disobeys them and slaughtering men like sheep if they question them.
Ilaaheyo alshabab shirkooda inaga hey...aamiin

[Voltage]

Kan yaree gaal raaca nomadichebel halkee ka yimid horta? And why does he remind me of Caashaqa?

[Enlightened~Sista]

^^ Spot on

They are one & the same.

[surrender]

i heard from somewhere that prophet muhammed scw asked allah (what you would call 3 wishes) 2 were acceped, and the third was refused. whats happening to somalia today is the wish that was refused

anyone care to tell us the three things prophet muhammed scw asked allah?

[Faranacab]

The conflict in Somalia is so complex. There are lot wars going on at the same time.

The following wars going on:

1. The Clan war.

2. The Regional war.

3. The Global war.

4. The Business war.

The situation is too complex. It is beyond our understanding. It is fluid and the actors keep repositioning themselves. Alliances are temporary and ideologies are almost non-existent. Even the Islamist ideology in Somalia can be called superficial. The ‘policies’ they implement in the regions under their control betray their lack of vision.

This situation due to its many variables has forced many people to be a bit schizophrenic when it comes to supporting political factions. If we look at GENERAL_SNM up there, in the Clan war he supports Somaliland, in the Regional war he supports the Somali interest and in the Global war who knows. The contradiction is obvious to most of us (Somaliland is an Ethiopian proxy) yet this seemingly intelligent young man chooses to ignore this fact. I wonder how many people rhyme their conflicting interests or rather ignore them.

We can understand his situation; the whole Somali nation is in that same position. His identity as a man from a certain clan, born into the Somali nation, who is of the Muslim faith and from a certain socio-economic background forces him to make rather strange choices.

The lack of consistency and flip flopping back and forth is the reason why the war in Somalia has lasted so long.

The reason why the AlShabab & Hiz Islam seem to be winning at the moment is because they are using time tested methods of warfare and more importantly they have found a way to rhyme the conflict of identity that is to be found within every Somali.

For example the supporters of Somaliland have focused only on one war of the first three wars I have mentioned above, namely the Clan war. They have played this war rather well; the existence of the secessionist administration after 18 years proves this point. However they have lost the Regional war by becoming an Ethiopian vassal. We can say the same for the Puntlanders, they have played the Clan war well only because they too have accepted the status of an Ethiopian vassal. These two administrations have overcome the first obstacle only to be defeated on the second obstacle, thus becoming disqualified in the long run.

AShabab & Hiz Islam have linked the first three wars. They choose not to part take in the Clan war and decided to transcend it. In the Regional war they maneuvered themselves into the position of being the sole champion of the Somali National interest. They have also been foolishly drawn to part take in the Global war.

Those who wish to counter Hiz Islam and Shabab need to learn how to walk the tight rope that is Somali politics and need to offer a coherent and a consistent vision to get Somalia out of its current predicament while transcending clan and without ignoring Somalia’s national interest and rights as a sovereign nation.

Sharif Amxaar has proven that he does not understand the dynamics of the Somali conflict and the way to reconcile the conflicting identities that are present in most Somalis today.

This is why he should resign instead of also capitulating and making the Somali government an Ethiopian puppet.