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horta turk ma alshabab ba?

Hyper,

Yes, he is Al Shabab and sends hundreds of OGaden fighters to Xamar every month to fight. He recruits his Ogaden fighters from Ogadenia, and NFD.

he doesnt recruit from ogadenia, its mostly jubbooyinka, turki is a man of his own, he decide's what he does, sharif should have stayed with them if he didnt want all this trouble.

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Hyper,

Yes, he is Al Shabab and sends hundreds of OGaden fighters to Xamar every month to fight. He recruits his Ogaden fighters from Ogadenia, and NFD.

that's not right.
if he was fighting in ogadenia i would support him but now he has his own agenda as i understand and i dont support him.

hanqadh, knows better than me. i guess i shouldnt even talk about things i dont know.

Handaqh

He recruits from Ogadenia. The bigger question is who has Ogadenia's interests at heart more: Amiir Sheik Sharif or Turki ?

Abdiwahab, It's Hawiye Territory that has been an open theater of war. What is Ogaden, raxanweyn, Marehaan and Harti doing in Xamar. Why is it so easy to infiltrate Hawiye's power base and create unprecedented Mayhem. Where are the elders and scholars of Hawiye? And why you guys culturally DisRESPECT your Elders.

Rightwing wrote:Horta OLNF "pure Ogadeen nationalist" should associate with other Somalis in western Somalia before they commences anything relates to mediating among Somalis in proper Somalia.

Correct me if i'm wrong. ... Please thus if I am wrong in anything to do OLNF agenda

Since you have asked for correction. Here we go:

1. You got wrong the name. So refer to the press release or the tittle of the thread to get the name right.

2. You got wrong what this polotical organization represents. Refer to their website, documents, or history.

3. You got wrong when you assumed that they are not associated with Somalis who live in the O region. They are associated & trying to unite all Somali clans who live in O region with out carrying fake polotical organizational name like SNM, USC et al.

4. You got wrong to assume that this polotical organization should be silent about events which are going in Somalia. To correct you, In the O region there are many Somalis who left their houses in Somalia and wanted to go back in last decades. The likes of this strong polotical organization should speak out the trueth, pointing out the danger of second colonization in the region.

5. You got wrong when you ignored the message of the press release & commented about irrelivent issues.

6. My point is that second colonization will bring lot of hell problems for every one in the region.

7.Even your seccesionist Guurti said their take of the issue. I have been reading your comments in some where & you supported their take of the issue.

8.Therefore, it is so wrong to assume that this regional or global war which is going in Somalia doesnot concern this polotical organization right now.

9.It is even so wrong & foolish to say this strong polotical organization should be silent about this regional war in Somalia when its polotical enemy( like the Ethiopian Tigre minority regime) which has many more internal problems wants to play their role of the polotical game in the region.

Don't be fooled this second colonization of Somalia will bring lot of more prolems then the one we Somalis have now. Just think about how the Alshabaab was born? Was this Alshabaab group famous before 2006? Don't you think other more crazy youths would come out if this second colonization happens to Somalia? Now remember & tell me if this doesn't apply to ''your'' saying of 'Ninkaan Waxa Soosocda Arag Waxa Jooga Ma Arko' as you were saying the other day in the other thread?

Bal aan aragno haday wax kaga baxeen khaladaadka yar yar ee lagaa saxay

Faranacab

Horta I have stopped to symphatize ONLF in 1991kii markay is qab qabsadeen Somalidii kale halkaana ay ku lumiyeen golden chance. I admit I'm ignorant about their website laakiinse xitaa kenya or any other African gov. or oraganisation constituentkooda waxaa ku qoran iyo sida loo dhaqmaa isma leh.
Dagaalkan bilaa natiijada ah miyaanay dhaamin inay joojaan, ka qaybgalaan ismaamulaka Somalida, ka shaqeeyaan mashaariic horumarineed sida dhinaca dhaqaalah waxbarashada. Maalinta ay timaado waqti ku haboon madax banaani ay si sharci ah cod aqlabiyad ah ku helaan, ileen constituentka wadankaa sidaa ogolee.

shed me some light sxb weli ma waxaad aaminsantihiin in xoog lagu soo celin karo wadankaa maqan?

Wrong q!

You got to learn how to ask good questions. 'weli ma waxaad aaminsantihiin in xoog lagu soo celin karo wadankaa maqan?' is just silly question. As far as it is concerned the holly strugle which ONLF leads, its men and women are not only engaged in a military war against the unconstitutional government of Ethiopia , but also a political one.

Decolonization is a painful and difficult process that requires more than using force and weapons to defend and emancipate a country. The Ogaden war between Somalia and
Ethiopia is a great example as to why a political war is just as decisive
as a military one.

The ONLF is establishing prominent relationships, connecting with influential countries, and declaring our independence to the world both on and off the battlefield. The exclusive right to control a government, a country and its people requires more than a successful military machine; it requires the use of tactics and strategy to gain and establish a powerful relationship with influential countries, and organizations within the international community.

The fate of Ogadenia rests on the ONLF, and its success will not be measured by how well they fight to make it sovereign, but also how well they fight to keep its sovereign. Their interaction with other countries and organizations today will ensure their success against
outside influences tomorrow!

I am not in a state of confusion to believe that ''xoog'' alone would do when the ONLF is in fact strategizing on a course of action that will lead us to our victory beyond the battleground. You can’t have a house with just a roof, the same way you can’t have sovereignty with only military conquest.

The fate of our region is contingent on more than one pillar, and how we establish these pillars will determine our success in either thriving like Kosovo or failing like Somaliland!

It is also essential to stress that their fight is not "dagaal bilaa natiijo ah" as you would like us to believe, they ARE moving the coveted self-determination ideal forward with out standing advancement that put many military strategies and tactics to shame! It doesn’t
take a genius to acknowledge the accomplishments attained by the ONLF with their prevailing policies and proceedings.

I honestly believe you are ill equipped with the fundamental knowledge and wisdom required to talk about the ONLF or their objectives. Your thoughts and ideas are the consequence of bias and prejudice information that arose from limited research and sources. Individuals who are informed on the platform of the ONLF and politics in general, would have been too ashamed to ask the questions that were asked by Mr.Rightwing.

An individual who goes out of his way to incorporate words like “ ka shaqeeyaan mashaariic horumarineed sida dhinaca dhaqaalah waxbarashada” should know better than bringing silly questions or arguments which are based on fallacious garbage that lacks candor and dependability.

Faranacab I admire your intellectual gift.. Is time i gave u Bilad Dahab ah ..

Farancab:Was this Alshabaab group famous before 2006?

I dont understand this.What are you trying to say?

luis1 wrote:Farancab:Was this Alshabaab group famous before 2006?

I dont understand this.What are you trying to say?

This topic is not for you therefore

ALL THE TOPICS ARE FOR ME,DEAR FARANCAB.

Cumar:but it was our army in the 70's which use to make me proud and when watching videos it use to -

Why are you proud of Somali Army if it lost the Ogaden War in 1977