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Re: Somalia Please Solve Our Problem. Federalism.

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Ducaysane,

Unfortunately for you, you're forced to be with us, wether you like it or not
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Shirib wrote:Ducaysane,

Unfortunately for you, you're forced to be with us, wether you like it or not

i am not the 1 who is ruled by ex Dhuxulay Ina Godane :mrgreen:
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Federalism is the way to go, but I am sure a lot of regions will lag behind big time
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Shirib wrote:Ducaysane,

Unfortunately for you, you're forced to be with us, wether you like it or not
More like his forced not to be with you.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


Ducayso, joke cousin.. :up:
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duceysane tell ur burco ppl stop heading towards hamar for the jihads hundreds have already left to fight for shabab against the tfg..but then against burco is the most heavily invested radicalism in all of somalia...
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GNSNM :up:




Shrib this is your Leader with his young Afghani recruits :mrgreen:



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usman-84 wrote:duceysane tell ur burco ppl stop heading towards hamar for the jihads hundreds have already left to fight for shabab against the tfg..but then against burco is the most heavily invested radicalism in all of somalia...


there is no much truth in that sxb its just propagenda - those who go to Jihad in xamar are properly related to Ina Godane his Arap Afghani clan
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Ducaysane_87 wrote:i am not the 1 who is ruled by ex Dhuxulay Ina Godane :mrgreen:
can't you provide evidence that the guy was realy dhuxule but don't post article writen by Habashi lover.
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sheekh-Farax-zero wrote:
Ducaysane_87 wrote:i am not the 1 who is ruled by ex Dhuxulay Ina Godane :mrgreen:
can't you provide evidence that the guy was realy dhuxule but don't post article writen by Habashi lover.

you will rather believe - a report from al shabab making him look good - rather then unbiased info so whats the point
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of course i ''ll believe alsh-abaab propaganda.
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he stole money from somaliland wa gaal kaasii kaffiir dhiigisu wa xalaal naagtiisi na way ka furantahay :mrgreen:
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khalid ali wrote:he stole money from smellyland wa gaal kaasii kaffiir dhiigisu wa xalaal naagtiisi na way ka furantahay :mrgreen:
yaa kaa dhagaysan?
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dee adba tuug baad tahay tuug tuug wa tuugsada manad maqall :mrgreen:
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Man seriously this is sad if we can't even talk about working government model without resorting to name-calling and attacks. Listen qofka runta ku sheego baad u bahan tihiin. Do u want to huge billion dollar investments? without recognized laws that will never happen...that is the truth...can u imagine the change somalia will go thru if multi nationals start coming? Huge infrastructures will be built like sanitation systems, roads everywhere, skylines of finance firms...sxb we gotta give them assurance of recognized laws that are respected worldwide....so if we dont solve this shit we just going to rely on the local firms in our regions who wont ever be able to build huge infrastructure like that...only multi nationals can...

wake up it is in our interest...no point hiding from it anymore or ignoring it...the world is just waiting for us to solve our problems and agree on government system..
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This is the truth i am telling u now, should our ppl suffer because of ppl's egos...hell no...we need to think outside of the box now...puntland has put its hand up and said this is our idea on solving somalias problem which is federalism..puntland is trying its hardest to get this to work, because we cant just become indepedent countries because their are to many giants nations in africa who weild alot of power in the A.U that refuse somalia splits..egypt is one who refuses it..because they want to see formidble country in somalia that can keep ethiopia busy not weak mini nation states like djibouti.

Therefore separation is just not possible because our regional authority the A.U will consult its lion-states like egypt who hold alot of influence in the A.U about their opinion on somalia splitting and they will say flatly no...marka we cant force egypt to change its mind, we dont have anything to threaten with...Puntland woke up and realized federalism is the only way out of this mess whilst it is realistical and the world will except it and somalis well usually the reasonable somalis see it as good policy also..it doesnt benefit just 1 tribe but all tribes..and if ur fair minded person u must not just think about ur tribe but every tribe if u want peace to come...

So whats ur idea so far...Separation and Federalism and Unity and Religious rule...these are the 4 systems that fighting it out in somalia...separation is not possible like i said its not realistic due to major nations refusing it...federalism is supported by america and the western world...unity is sharif policy when he got elected we clearly see that unity policy in hamar today..there simply is no unity because unity takes two to tango...and shabab doesnt want unity therefore whats the point...and the fourth system is religious rule...religious rule under shabab will transform somalia into an afghanistan...the world will respond with sanctions and calling it terrorist state like iran...it will house terrorists from around the world like afghanistan used to habar terrorist...but we see the outcome of habouring terrorist..look at afghanistan today for that devastating policy...its not pretty...investments will be lacking because the world will outlaw us and therefore our laws wont be respected anywhere in the world and foreign investors will see problem...but their will be peace and stability under shabab and law and order that is bonus point for shabab...

1. peace law and order and stability

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1. no progress, countries will outlaw us just like they did with the icu when they ruled hamar they put sanctions on al barakaat remember. U saw the devastation that caused to the ppl. That was just 1 hawala, then america allowed for ethiopia to enter to attack and more ppl died....

So out all of the options we have today i assessed them as fairly as i can and that is why federalism is the best choice i believe for us, because its realistic..its respected by the world...only now need somalis to respect it also...it will bring progress and peace...
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