A somali Student in Malaysia cut into pieces.

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NoilPoint
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Re: A somali Student in Malaysia cut into pieces.

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If the deceased was protected by sharee’ah during his lifetime – whether he was a Muslim or a kaafir, whether a man or a woman – then it is not permissible to dissect the body, because that is mistreatment and violating his sanctity. It is proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Breaking the bone of the deceased is like breaking it when he was alive.” Narrated by Abu Dawood (2792).

But if he was not protected, such as an apostate or a non-Muslim in a state of war against the Muslims, then I do not see anything wrong with dissecting his body for medical purposes. End quote.

And Allaah knows best.

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This kind of information above and the conclusions shows great ignorance and utter failure of interpretation.

My interpretation involves that the prophet meant how the bodies of the deceased should not be fooled with or misused simply.
“Breaking the bone of the deceased is like breaking it when he was alive.”
This quote screams SHOW RESPECT TO THE BODIES of the deceased. Nothing about science and surgery, medicine.
How can he used it to ban studying the body in scientific purpose, when that can save future lives.
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Re: A somali Student in Malaysia cut into pieces.

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And then this quote
But if he was not protected, such as an apostate or a non-Muslim in a state of war against the Muslims, then I do not see anything wrong with dissecting his body for medical purposes.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: what the fuk are we muslims , aliens??

this looks so wrong, so we should from a socio-economic point be at war with everybody to gain bodies?
what a pathetic example.

its simply imperative to have human bodies to advance in medicine.
However I dont know yet wether Islam allows this..( excuse my laziness but i dont trust all islam sites online)

we certainly can't take a middleway here as well... and feast on the information done by ' dirty work' we refused...
example Denmark does autopsys... Saudi Arabia bans autopsies.. but use Danish medical data from this ...

just example!
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Re: A somali Student in Malaysia cut into pieces.

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noilpoint, do you want to dissect the body of a believer? :mrgreen:

let the bodies of the mushriks and murtads be dissected. there's no need to dissect the bodies of the believers when you've plenty of mushriks and apostates.
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Re: A somali Student in Malaysia cut into pieces.

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what if someone in your family died of an unknown hearth disease, and the medical team needs to do an autopsy.
To find out wether other family members have this disease?

Should we just find a pagan body and check that one instead

sure :up:
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Re: A somali Student in Malaysia cut into pieces.

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NoilPoint wrote:what if someone in your family died of an unknown hearth disease, and the medical team needs to do an autopsy.
To find out wether other family members have this disease?
...in that case the scholars allow it:

1 – Dissection or autopsy in the case of a criminal investigation

2 – Dissection in the case of an investigation into an infectious disease, so that precautions may be taken in the light of this investigation to protect others from the disease

After exchanging views, discussing and studying this issue, the Council has determined the following:

With regard to the first and second categories, the Council thinks that permitting them serves many interests in the fields of security, justice and protecting society from infectious diseases; the violation of the dissected body is outweighed by the many public interests that are served by that.
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Re: A somali Student in Malaysia cut into pieces.

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well you should tell these scholars to do an autopsy you need to be trained in this field.
And the only way is doing on human bodys donated freely ;)

can't drive a car without practice and license you know
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