shirkada Hormuud (ex-albarakaad)

[Twisted_Logic]

Khalid Ali and Twisted Logic, I can't speak for every Darod clan, but our money and even most of the Majerteen money are 100% theirs. We never had any favors from Siyad Barre and every thing we got was ours.

The Xaaraam Piracy money is going to haunt us though

I agree with you to an extent. Majerteen were not part of the state lootings of the 70s and 80s like the other Darood clans

Twisted, If you want I can link an article on New York times in 1962. The article is talking about the late president Abdirashid Sharmake, and they said he drove a used second hand car and stayed in a small place in Moqdisho. Keep in mind that he had the state sources available for him

No-one doubts Pres Abdi Rashid Ali Sharmarke's integrity.

[Xamud.]

Fah
Some people lost everything they owned while others marched from the dessert and looted everything they laid eyes on. the corruption in the late 70s-80s is nothing compered to the looting that took place in 1991-1993. The corruption was done by the goverment and it affected all of us, but the looting was doing by a group of people and they went after another group of people, no Haber Gidirs or Abgaals lost their property in Xamer, if anything they gained more. You can not compere the two.

[Diyeeshaha_Tolka]

Fah
Some people lost everything they owned while others marched from the dessert and looted everything they laid eyes on. the corruption in the late 70s-80s is nothing compered to the looting that took place in 1991-1993. The corruption was done by the goverment and it affected all of us, but the looting was doing by a group of people and they went after another group of people, no Haber Gidirs or Abgaals lost their property in Xamer, if anything they gained more. You can not compere the two.

waraa wiilka yar beenta ka daa,,darood were even much worst then HG and abgaal,,,xamar dadbaa dhulkoodi xoog looga qaatay oo dawlada waraaqado kasoo qortay,, dad baa beerahoodi xooga looga wareegay. waxaasi oo dhan magac dawladeed ayaa lagu sameyn jiray..

[Twisted_Logic]

Fah
Some people lost everything they owned while others marched from the dessert and looted everything they laid eyes on. the corruption in the late 70s-80s is nothing compered to the looting that took place in 1991-1993. The corruption was done by the goverment and it affected all of us, but the looting was doing by a group of people and they went after another group of people, no Haber Gidirs or Abgaals lost their property in Xamer, if anything they gained more. You can not compere the two.

Millions upon millions of state money embezzled by the Barre Regime and his clan. It was nepotism and corruption whose scale has never been seen in Somalia's history. Nomads from Gedo who have never seen a city where within months buying mansions and driving land-cruisers.

It is ignorant of you to say that the looting of the 90s was worse than the state-sponsored and sanctioned robbery of the 70s and 80s. The armed upraising and insurgency against the former regime was precisely because of the shameful degree of nepotism and clan-driven corruption. You can't compare a mindless looting by armed thugs to a state-sponsored corruption drive where illiterate nomads who couldn't even write their own names where managers and administrators of everything in the country.

You need to be a bit objective and open-minded instead of hugging into a non-existent Darood brotherhood to cover up for the shams and corruption of the 80s

[FAH1223]

Fah
Some people lost everything they owned while others marched from the dessert and looted everything they laid eyes on. the corruption in the late 70s-80s is nothing compered to the looting that took place in 1991-1993. The corruption was done by the goverment and it affected all of us, but the looting was doing by a group of people and they went after another group of people, no Haber Gidirs or Abgaals lost their property in Xamer, if anything they gained more. You can not compere the two.

dude, I'm not denying people looted but you're putting it exclusively on two clans (even though they fought in the capital and sure, there was plenty of it and destruction)

a lot of people looted though, people looted the central bank even during the governments last days (i have relatives who were in that department and know everything that went down and took part in freezing everything)

but im not gonna put the details of that here, but you get the drift...it coulda been siad barre's kin, coulda been hebel this, hebel that who worked there...it doesn't matter

Somalis as a collective body are one big mess and they all took part in the collapse of it all...but I prefer to look at things at an individual manner ... just cause someone is HG, that doesn't mean thy was poor...they coulda been well off and built something but it all collapsed during the civil war just like it happened to EVERYONE ELSE...

I'm Xawaadle... but that didn't stop everything my awoowe built from burning to the ground even though our clan was in USC and shid you know?

its all relative, and the clan paint brush really doesn't do much justice in terms of who earned what, who lived good, ect, ect

i hope you know where im coming from bro

[Xamud.]

Fah
Some people lost everything they owned while others marched from the dessert and looted everything they laid eyes on. the corruption in the late 70s-80s is nothing compered to the looting that took place in 1991-1993. The corruption was done by the goverment and it affected all of us, but the looting was doing by a group of people and they went after another group of people, no Haber Gidirs or Abgaals lost their property in Xamer, if anything they gained more. You can not compere the two.

waraa wiilka yar beenta ka daa,,darood were even much worst then HG and abgaal,,,xamar dadbaa dhulkoodi xoog looga qaatay oo dawlada waraaqado kasoo qortay,, dad baa beerahoodi xooga looga wareegay. waxaasi oo dhan magac dawladeed ayaa lagu sameyn jiray..

Your so full of bullshidh, Abgaal maybe, laakin HG miyaa Beero ku laha Xamer? adigu Gaaljecel garabrarato baad tahay maxaad kala hadlaa adiga oo weligis uu Darood waxba ku yeelin baad Cuqdaad la qarqareysa

[Twisted_Logic]

Fah
Some people lost everything they owned while others marched from the dessert and looted everything they laid eyes on. the corruption in the late 70s-80s is nothing compered to the looting that took place in 1991-1993. The corruption was done by the goverment and it affected all of us, but the looting was doing by a group of people and they went after another group of people, no Haber Gidirs or Abgaals lost their property in Xamer, if anything they gained more. You can not compere the two.

waraa wiilka yar beenta ka daa,,darood were even much worst then HG and abgaal,,,xamar dadbaa dhulkoodi xoog looga qaatay oo dawlada waraaqado kasoo qortay,, dad baa beerahoodi xooga looga wareegay. waxaasi oo dhan magac dawladeed ayaa lagu sameyn jiray..

Your so full of bullshidh, Abgaal maybe, laakin HG miyaa Beero ku laha Xamer? adigu Gaaljecel garabrarato baad tahay maxaad kala hadlaa adiga oo weligis uu Darood waxba ku yeelin baad Cuqdaad la qarqareysa

So says the only guy on SNET who hides behind Darood name. Even our Warsengali friends stand independent and pledge allegiance to their own Warsengali clan. No-amount of Darood moanings will hide your clan's insignificance

[Captain24]

Fah
Some people lost everything they owned while others marched from the dessert and looted everything they laid eyes on. the corruption in the late 70s-80s is nothing compered to the looting that took place in 1991-1993. The corruption was done by the goverment and it affected all of us, but the looting was doing by a group of people and they went after another group of people, no Haber Gidirs or Abgaals lost their property in Xamer, if anything they gained more. You can not compere the two.

dude, I'm not denying people looted but you're putting it exclusively on two clans (even though they fought in the capital and sure, there was plenty of it and destruction)

a lot of people looted though, people looted the central bank even during the governments last days (i have relatives who were in that department and know everything that went down and took part in freezing everything)

but im not gonna put the details of that here, but you get the drift...it coulda been siad barre's kin, coulda been hebel this, hebel that who worked there...it doesn't matter

Somalis as a collective body are one big mess and they all took part in the collapse of it all...but I prefer to look at things at an individual manner ... just cause someone is HG, that doesn't mean thy was poor...they coulda been well off and built something but it all collapsed during the civil war just like it happened to EVERYONE ELSE...

I'm Xawaadle... but that didn't stop everything my awoowe built from burning to the ground even though our clan was in USC and shid you know?

its all relative, and the clan paint brush really doesn't do much justice in terms of who earned what, who lived good, ect, ect

i hope you know where im coming from bro

One the money, but still You have to admit that some clans did so more than others, and we are in the same page

[Twisted_Logic]

Captain,

How can anyone compare someone who looted some furniture and houses to someone who won farms, houses and free state money is beyond me.

Our poor friend Xamud thinks 90s house-lootings was worse than the corruption and nepotism of the 80s

[BaasAbuur]

they guy who started al-barakaat ,,wuxuu xawaalada bilaaway way before the civil war,,sacuudiga iyo somalia ayuu ka dhex xawili jiray,,

lacagtii biliqada aad sheegaysaan maxaaba la bililaqaystaa by the time the usc came to muqdishu the place was already empty,,wixiiba hanti ee yaalay daaroodki ayaaba soo xamaashay ilaa utanga..

Wixii la xamaali kare waxaa ka muhiimsanaa kuwa la xamaali karin sida the infrastructure of the city.

[FAH1223]

Captain,

How can anyone compare someone who looted some furniture and houses to someone who won farms, houses and free state money is beyond me.

Our poor friend Xamud thinks 90s house-lootings was worse than the corruption and nepotism of the 80s

its all a mess,

in the 80s there was a state but the government that came into power succumbed to the same corruption that it swore to combat in the 70s

and in the 90s, the capital was destroyed, the state was destroyed...thousands of somalis dead

[Xamud.]

Twisted
Your obsessed with me and my clan, I have told you this before and I will tell you this again, put your money where your mouth is or STFU. Your like a broken record, repeating your trash like your doing any harm, nigga put the jack daniel down and sober up before you look down on any one.

Fah
Some people lost everything they owned while others marched from the dessert and looted everything they laid eyes on. the corruption in the late 70s-80s is nothing compered to the looting that took place in 1991-1993. The corruption was done by the goverment and it affected all of us, but the looting was doing by a group of people and they went after another group of people, no Haber Gidirs or Abgaals lost their property in Xamer, if anything they gained more. You can not compere the two.

dude, I'm not denying people looted but you're putting it exclusively on two clans (even though they fought in the capital and sure, there was plenty of it and destruction)

a lot of people looted though, people looted the central bank even during the governments last days (i have relatives who were in that department and know everything that went down and took part in freezing everything)

but im not gonna put the details of that here, but you get the drift...it coulda been siad barre's kin, coulda been hebel this, hebel that who worked there...it doesn't matter

Somalis as a collective body are one big mess and they all took part in the collapse of it all...but I prefer to look at things at an individual manner ... just cause someone is HG, that doesn't mean thy was poor...they coulda been well off and built something but it all collapsed during the civil war just like it happened to EVERYONE ELSE...

I'm Xawaadle... but that didn't stop everything my awoowe built from burning to the ground even though our clan was in USC and shid you know?

its all relative, and the clan paint brush really doesn't do much justice in terms of who earned what, who lived good, ect, ect

i hope you know where im coming from bro

I understand where you are coming, am not blaming a entire tribe, beside I know that nepotism existed and that people were in fact looting the banks as early as the late 70s but they thing is everyone did it, people from all clans did it, allthough certain clans did it more then others. but some of the guys are trying to say that a entire tribe lived on hand outs from the Siad Barre regime.

[Diyeeshaha_Tolka]

Your so full of bullshidh, Abgaal maybe, laakin HG miyaa Beero ku laha Xamer? adigu Gaaljecel garabrarato baad tahay maxaad kala hadlaa adiga oo weligis uu Darood waxba ku yeelin baad Cuqdaad la qarqareysa

qabiil inaan ku faano ama aan caayo ma jecli ,,laakiin lelakase aan maqlo somalinet ayaa igu horeysay,,marka sxb haba isku soo qaadin inaad ka hadasho qabiil kale..waa iga waano arintaasi

[Twisted_Logic]

Twisted
Your obsessed with me and my clan, I have told you this before and I will tell you this again, put your money where your mouth is or STFU. Your like a broken record, repeating your trash like your doing any harm, nigga put the jack daniel down and sober up before you look down on any one.

Fah
Some people lost everything they owned while others marched from the dessert and looted everything they laid eyes on. the corruption in the late 70s-80s is nothing compered to the looting that took place in 1991-1993. The corruption was done by the goverment and it affected all of us, but the looting was doing by a group of people and they went after another group of people, no Haber Gidirs or Abgaals lost their property in Xamer, if anything they gained more. You can not compere the two.

dude, I'm not denying people looted but you're putting it exclusively on two clans (even though they fought in the capital and sure, there was plenty of it and destruction)

a lot of people looted though, people looted the central bank even during the governments last days (i have relatives who were in that department and know everything that went down and took part in freezing everything)

but im not gonna put the details of that here, but you get the drift...it coulda been siad barre's kin, coulda been hebel this, hebel that who worked there...it doesn't matter

Somalis as a collective body are one big mess and they all took part in the collapse of it all...but I prefer to look at things at an individual manner ... just cause someone is HG, that doesn't mean thy was poor...they coulda been well off and built something but it all collapsed during the civil war just like it happened to EVERYONE ELSE...

I'm Xawaadle... but that didn't stop everything my awoowe built from burning to the ground even though our clan was in USC and shid you know?

its all relative, and the clan paint brush really doesn't do much justice in terms of who earned what, who lived good, ect, ect

i hope you know where im coming from bro

I understand where you are coming, am not blaming a entire tribe, beside I know that nepotism existed and that people were in fact looting the banks as early as the late 70s but they thing is everyone did it, people from all clans did it, allthough certain clans did it more then others. but some of the guys are trying to say that a entire tribe lived on hand outs from the Siad Barre regime.

Precisely.

ps

The deal is still on

[Voltage]

Your so full of bullshidh, Abgaal maybe, laakin HG miyaa Beero ku laha Xamer? adigu Gaaljecel garabrarato baad tahay maxaad kala hadlaa adiga oo weligis uu Darood waxba ku yeelin baad Cuqdaad la qarqareysa