Djibsomali are you a Twelver Shia or a Shaafici Sunni ?

[FAH1223]

ok! interesting! never heard of that, i was told they dont believe that prophet muhammed was a prophet sent to the ummah, so was they lied about the prophet scw, or hate him!? something like that. someone tell me what is their problem than.?

no, they dont say anything bad about the prophet SAW

they say bad things about the rashidun and some of the sahaba cause of the events that took place after the death of the Prophet SAW

[surrender]

oh thats must be it than, and the fact that they used rock/brown wooden circle thing dfor sujuud! i've nevr seen the rock, but have seen the wooden thing, there are some at my uni who use it.

waa bidca right?!

[nomadicwarlord]

Anyone here from the Nation of Islam?

[AbdiWahab252]

Anyone here from the Nation of Islam?

Nomadic,

I am all for being Afrocentric bro, but that is too much.

[nomadicwarlord]

Anyone here from the Nation of Islam?

Nomadic,

I am all for being Afrocentric bro, but that is too much.

I was in Philly one time and met some members of the NOI, confusing individuals yo. But some have expanded their beliefs beyond Elijah Muhammad and company.

[Shirib]

Anyone here from the Nation of Islam?

Nation of Islam are not Muslims saaxib

[ms.naliaa]

Why does it matter?

A muslim is a muslim at the end of the day.

he beleives in Allah and the 5 pillars of islam.

Shia's dont believe in the five pillers of islam-not im saying he's one, dont even know who this guy is!

Im pretty sure they do (beleive in the 5 pillars) Surrender.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

He is nasibi who supports alshabaab and claims to be ahlelbayt lover

[surrender]

Why does it matter?

A muslim is a muslim at the end of the day.

he beleives in Allah and the 5 pillars of islam.

Shia's dont believe in the five pillers of islam-not im saying he's one, dont even know who this guy is!

Im pretty sure they do (beleive in the 5 pillars) Surrender.

ok lol.

[djibsomali]

thank you people for all the consideration.

Shia eat children according saudi vodka version. and as i just came back to my desk i can tell you i did eat for aftur a somali child.
he was yummy.

[Addoow]

I dont get E.S obsession with islamic sects,it is becoming repititive walee,sufi this,shia that,salafi did that etc.

[abdalla11]

oh thats must be it than, and the fact that they used rock/brown wooden circle thing dfor sujuud! i've nevr seen the rock, but have seen the wooden thing, there are some at my uni who use it.

waa bidca right?!

They do that because they say the blood of hussain and ali touched the ground, so by doing that their head won't touch the ground during sujuud, and yes it is bidcah!

The shica started during the fightings bewteen cali and mucaawiyah radiyuallaahu canhumaa. Those who supported cali were called the shica (group) of cali. But there was a man who was called cabdullah ibn saba who was jew(and said he embraced the islam) he brought new ideas, such as cali is better than abu bakr and cumar. The saxaaba (including cali) unanimous agreed that abu bakr was the best among the saxaaba, followed bu cumar followed bu cuthmaan.

This cabdullah ibn saba was exiled by cali for his strange innovation. Abdullah ibn saba continued his call to his bidca, he choosed places were there the saxaba were present, because they would refute his bidcah. So settled in areas where there wasn't a single saxaabi and spread his innovation to the ignorants.

The shica are not all the same, u have the raafida (who are the worst), there ismailiyyah ( who belive in reincarnation), fatimiyyah and zaydiyyah

The raafidah aka the twelver, believe:1 Jibriil made a fault by revealing the revelation to muxammed saw instead of cali 2: all the saxaaba of the Prophet became apostate excpt five 3.The quran has mistakes 4. They believe in 12 imaams (hence the name twelvers or ithnaa cashariyyah in arabic) to whom they affirm divine attributes 5. the quraan which we have is not complete, they have another version which is 2/3 of the whole revelation, so our (the true ) quran is according to them 1/3 of the revelation. They say 2/3 of they revelation was revealed to fatimah after the death of the prophet. (Strange, 1/3 the quraan was during a period of 23 revealed to the prophet, while 2/3 of the revalation was send down during a period of 6 months, because fatimah died 6 months after the Prophet.)

Alot of the culemaa believe, based on their caqiidah, that they are not muslims. Imaam bukhaari was asked about praying behind a shica imaam his answer was: I don't see a difference between praying behind a shici and praying behind a christian or a jew!!!

And imaam shafici said:lam araa ixdaa ashhurin bi zuuri minal raafidah, the rafidah are the biggest liars of mankind
go to this site http://www.fatwa-onlineclick on Deviant groups and choose raafidah

[djibsomali]

let it be those that have not yet be contaminated by the saudi vodka, ass winkly, USA lover, prophet hater be the judge.
The above are just based on no foundation in the koran or in the prophet Mohamed (PUH) narration.

but here are prophet saying validated by all ulema.


Sunni references:
(1) Fadha'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p655
(2) Hilyatul Awliyaa, by Abu Nu'aym, v4, p329
(3) Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, v12, p289
(4) al-Awsat, by al-Tabarani
(5) Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, v10, pp 21-22
(6) al-Darqunti, who said this tradition has been transmitted via numerous
authorities.
(7) al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar Haythami , Ch. 11, section 1, p247

Thus the Messenger of Allah (PBUH&HF) used to say the phrase of "Shia of
Ali". This phrase is not something invented later! Prophet Muhammad
(PBUH&HF) said that the true followers of imam Ali will go to Paradise, and
this is a great felicity.

Also Jabir Ibn Abdillah al-Ansari narrated that:

The Messenger of Allah (PBUH&HF) said: "The Shia of Ali are
the real victorious in the day of resurrection/rising"

Sunni references:
- al-Manaqib Ahmad, as mentioned in: - Yanabi al-Mawaddah, by al-Qundoozi all-Hanafi, p62
- Tafsir al-Durr al-Manthoor, by al-Haffidh Jalaluddin al-Suyuti, who quotes
the tradition as follows: "We were with the Holy Prophet when Ali came
towards us. The Holy Prophet said: He and his Shia will aquire salvation
on the day of judgment."

[djibsomali]

it is up to you what you believe.

The fat saudi who loves vodka and kaffir.
Or the prophet and Allah saying

[Enlightened~Sista]

I dont get E.S obsession with islamic sects,it is becoming repititive walee,sufi this,shia that,salafi did that etc.

Calm down buddy, when have I ever been obsessed with Shias?..Salafis yeah but Shias? Plus it was just a question..or would you rather I follow in the footsteps of 99.9% of Somalinetters and endlessly until yamul qiyamah discuss Habar awal vs Habar gidir vs Majeerteen vs Marehan vs Geledi vs Mushunguli, Somali men vs Somali women, Ahmed gurey, TFG/AlShabab?



djib dee su aasha ka jawaab walaal..no need to be evasive.