Do we Somalis have a martin Luther King?

[Xamud.]

I say Siyaad Barre preached more about Somalinimo iyo Midnimo then any one else.

Queen Arawello
Siyaadki didnt really care for Somalinimo he cared for Islanimo but they guy killed more then he should have.

[hanqadh]

I wish to rule my own country and protect my own religion.
If you will, send me a letter saying whether there is to be peace or war.
I intend to go from Burao to Berbera I warn you of this - I wish to fight with you.
I like war, but you do not. God willing, I will take many rifles from you, but you will get no rifles or ammunition from me. I have no forts, no houses, no country.
I have no cultivated fields, no silver, no gold for you to take. I have nothing.
If the country were cultivated or contained houses or property, it would be worth your while to fight. The country is all jungle, and that is of no use to you.
If you want wood and stone, you can get them in plenty. There are also many ant-heaps. The sun is very hot. All you can get from me is war - nothing else.
I have met your men in battle, and have killed them. We are greatly pleased at this. Our men who have fallen in battle have won paradise. God fights for us.
We kill, and you kill. We fight by God's order. That is the truth. We ask for God's blessing. God is with me when I write this. If you wish for war, I am happy;
and, if you wish for peace, I am content also. But if you wish for peace,
go Solvay from my country back to your own.
If you wish for war, stay where you are. Hearken to my words.
I wish to exchange a machine gun for ammunition. If you do not want it, I will sell it to some one else. bend me a letter saying whether you desire war or peace."

[Amethyst]

lol.

The only special thing about M.L.K guy is the times he lived in. He could have easily been the next best negro laying on the street with his head bashed in, had he not said the right things at the right time, to the right people, leading many already hungry for change, go thru a great deal of distress, such as the beating and humiliating treatments go unanswered, to show the world that they really were serious about reaching this goal of "equality". Even that Rosa Parks thing is a lil too exaggrated. But who are we to judge when the Black people in the states having been a people stripped of their identity and history, big it up and idolize these Figures, right? Anyway, the Day Somalis and Somalia are ready for change in the masses, then this M.L.K figure will magically appear.

[Paddington Bear]

lol.

The only special thing about M.L.K guy is the times he lived in. He could have easily been the next best negro laying on the street with his head bashed in, had he not said the right things at the right time, to the right people, leading many already hungry for change, go thru a great deal of distress, such as the beating and humiliating treatments go unanswered, to show the world that they really were serious about reaching this goal of "equality". Even that Rosa Parks thing is a lil too exaggrated. But who are we to judge when the Black people in the states having been a people stripped of their identity and history, big it up and idolize these Figures, right? Anyway, the Day Somalis and Somalia are ready for change in the masses, then this M.L.K figure will magically appear.

All great times in human history have heroes that define those periods. Dr King was one. Rosa Park was another. The Sayid was a third. Don't belittle their contributions. The people might have been ready (like you argue) but there was always one that was more ready than most.

p.s.
Not sure how Dr King would apply to Somalia. Someone like him would be going in circles when faced with the Somali problem.

[Amethyst]

lol.

The only special thing about M.L.K guy is the times he lived in. He could have easily been the next best negro laying on the street with his head bashed in, had he not said the right things at the right time, to the right people, leading many already hungry for change, go thru a great deal of distress, such as the beating and humiliating treatments go unanswered, to show the world that they really were serious about reaching this goal of "equality". Even that Rosa Parks thing is a lil too exaggrated. But who are we to judge when the Black people in the states having been a people stripped of their identity and history, big it up and idolize these Figures, right? Anyway, the Day Somalis and Somalia are ready for change in the masses, then this M.L.K figure will magically appear.

All great times in human history have heroes that define those periods. Dr King was one. Rosa Park was another. The Sayid was a third. Don't belittle their contributions. The people might have been ready (like you argue) but there was always one that was more ready than most.

p.s.
Not sure how Dr King would apply to Somalia. Someone like him would be going in circles when faced with the Somali problem.

I'm really not belittling anyone or anything, Paddington. Like you I just cant see how the MLK thing applies either. People may define time, but times def. define people as well. And I was just noting how there needs to be something like a dominoe effect of sort for this transformation to take over. Granted a big figure being the first one to push the first stack and the rest of the chips falling over along the way. So its almost like what came first, the chicken or the egg. Anyway, im sure we've almost reached our rock bottom,....so we must now be headed upwards. I'm hoping anyway.

[Paddington Bear]

Ameen. Though I'm not sure we reached rockbottom yet. The stuff going on in Somaliland and Puntland is not very promising. Those two have another twenty years of civil war in them ( or is it only the people in the south who can be that bad?).

[abdalla11]

I think ninka Somalian politician who didn't use religion and yet(almost) united the Somalis was Abdirahid ali Sharmake.

On other the only warlord i heard saying Somaaliye aan iskaashano, aan iscafino, aan miidoobno was Abdullahi Yusuf, in one of his khutbo

[Uganda]

NO BUT WE GOT HUNDREDS OF MALCOLM XS'

Sharif is Somalia's Malcolm X

[Amethyst]

Ameen. Though I'm not sure we reached rockbottom yet. The stuff going on in Somaliland and Puntland is not very promising. Those two have another twenty years of civil war in them ( or is it only the people in the south who can be that bad?).

lol. You mean the folks up north have a lot more savagery in their system they need to shake and rid themselves of, before they can be seen as equals with the rest of the nation? That's one way to look at it. How about on the flip side of that, though? Them serving as a beacon that to each man his own works better in the short term present day Somalia. And Once the whole nation gets above a certain point, them just needing to reunite again...I'm sure it'll be easier said than done. But nevertheless def. better than total and complete anarchy.

[The_Emperior5]

So far e have The mad mullah Siyaad barre cigaal shidaad Maxamad mooge abdirashid cali sharmarke,, Come on guys Siyaad barres first 10 years where great true somalis felt united and they saw some sort of progress and things where heading the good way , But eventually the good guy wuxu jeclaaday kursigiisii and all Somalis turned against him, oo isma lahayn qarranka badbaadi
Ina cabdulla xassan and his dervishes, Ina cabdulla xassan killed lots Somalis with his gang the dervishes he was involved in clan battles Raiding camels disturbing the peace one on hand he had his clan mentality and on the other hand he had kitaabka quraanka ah
Cigaal shiidaad ninkaasii manu lumii jiireyn qoorta koor lugu xiidhi jiiray that guy was a joke
Abdirashis cali sharmarke I am not sure he was a peaceful man ilahay ha uu naxariisto but true I have not seen one Somali who had something bad to say about him
What about adan cabdulla cismaan the first Somali president , what u think

I would like to add suldaan timma cadde a guy who promoted somalinimo in the begin50s and hated clannish mentality

[abdalla11]

Abdirashis cali sharmarke I am not sure he was a peaceful man ilahay ha uu naxariisto

Care to elaborate

[Keyse_0208]

you need to take the sayid out of the list, half of his poems he is dissing isaaq, majeerteen, cise, gadabursi.. thats not preaching somalinimo, thats a sell out-nimo

[The_Emperior5]

Abdirashis cali sharmarke I am not sure he was a peaceful man ilahay ha uu naxariisto

Care to elaborate

Well he was a politician and in the 2 years when he was president is to small to judge him , all I know his he was a wadaad a god fearing man , and the first Prime minister of Somalia

[The_Emperior5]

you need to take the sayid out of the list, half of his poems he is dissing isaaq, majeerteen, cise, gadabursi.. thats not preaching somalinimo, thats a sell out-nimo

yeah the mad mullah is out of the question

[Somaliman50]

abdullahi issa