Habar Awal must be the largest clan because of Gabiley and..

[MrPrestige]

War Garxajis maxa meesha keenay baa we are talking about a Grandson of sheikh isxaaq aka Hy who surpassed his uncles -


apart from iin yar oo joogta xafaada Xamarta that they share with another sub clan of HY - Maxamed cisse badanka wa iska Nomad oo Hawdka iiska joogaan laakiinse deegaan ma ku laha Togdheer -


as for cidagale siida uuma badna laakiinse Arap iyo Cisse Muse wii kaa baadaanyihin atleast

[The_Emperior5]

War Garxajis maxa meesha keenay baa we are talking about a Grandson of sheikh isxaaq aka Hy who surpassed his uncles -


apart from iin yar oo joogta xafaada Xamarta that they share with another sub clan of HY - Maxamed cisse badanka wa iska Nomad oo Hawdka iiska joogaan laakiinse deegaan ma ku laha Togdheer -


as for cidagale siida uuma badna laakiinse Arap iyo Cisse Muse wii kaa baadaanyihin atleast

no way i dont think ciidagalle is larger then ciise muse taa waan ka diiday wax macquula ku haddal sxb

[Salaaxley79]

in kilinka shanaad they have done serious counting, but still not perfect
however Garhajis has close to ver 400 k of the counted in ethiopia, perhaps another 200k of uncounted nomads.


Muuse Carre is about same size as Isxaaq Carre .
I dont think Muse Carre is same size as Ciidagale, perhaps more like Maxamud Daud or Adrahman musa .
I may exxaggarate the negativity of Garhajis sometimes, but it has to be done .

Emperior Ciise Muuse was reported to be same size as Arap in Somaliland protectorate in 1950s.
Ciidagale which as halfway counted excluding ethiopian settlements was counted to same size as the two ciise and arap combined.
You can compare it with lugahaa , ciise muuse is very short same is arap territorial wise.
the've never had independent wars with larger clans.

Ciidagale has fought many, Ciise Muuse is a mere baby compared really

[The_Emperior5]

awal
suber
Muse
Ciise

Garxajis
Daud

ciiise muse awoow baad uu tahay wanay ka baddanyihin lool

[MrPrestige]

Mar Miyaad walatay - are you comparing Cisse muse who is made of those two sub clans Aden Cisse and Maxamed Cisse descents since the other two Idarays cisse and the other are not even on the radar properly exinct - with Cidagale?

Cidagala iska dhaaf baa - Who is Larger Muse Daud or Cisse muse? since Muse Daud would easily outnumber Aden cisse - where's the Mohamed Daud would also outnumber the Maxamed cisse - iska ba dhaaf the other cidagale's such as Bah Dhamal , Reer Abdi Cisse , Aradaga Bilal , Abokar Muse

[MrPrestige]

Salaxley i was also surprised when i saw the population counting results static's of 2005 - 2006

Gaashaamo and Aware Gaarxajis inhabited area's was more then 340,000

and not including those who live further in degaxbuur , Wardheer districts and the Nomad movements --


those heavy populations need to be inserted in the border areas of sool and sanaag would be a boast the fight against Pland

[MrPrestige]

Emperior correction its like this - haye marka lets compare Abdullah abdrahman and Maxame Ciisse - the second largest sub clan in cisse muse oo dhaan






Abdullah Maxamed
Abdurrahman Cisse
Musa Muse
Sayyid Daud (Ciidagale) Subeer
Isma'il (Habar Garxajis) Awal

[GENERAL_SNM]

If you dont fight whats the point of having a large number? Cidagalle half the size as HA has a better war record.

[The_Emperior5]

Emperior correction its like this - haye marka lets compare Abdullah abdrahman and Maxame Ciisse - the second largest sub clan in cisse muse oo dhaan






Abdullah Maxamed
Abdurrahman Cisse
Musa Muse
Sayyid Daud (Ciidagale) Subeer
Isma'il (Habar Garxajis) Awal

if you haad is barbr dhigtiid suber iyo Ciidagalle ama daud waad ku ceeboobayssa
only Jibriel abokor is twice the seize of ciidagalle marka suber ka da waxad is taagta
Ciise muse iyo ciidagalle wiil iyo awoogiis

[The_Emperior5]

If you dont fight whats the point of having a large number? Cidagalle half the size as HA has a better war record.

What wars sxb ? habaryoonis fighted and reached all the way to hiiraan with rigaax forces and Humiliated the Reer cabdulle , Ciidagalle where salaadiin
besides back then it was ciidangalle arab was part of ciidangalle ayub was part of it some jiidwaaq where even some of the reer samatar siciid samatar ba ku jiiray even isxaaq was part of it , Ciidangalle of yesterday is not the same as ciidagalle today Ciidangalle dagaal ba lugu galli jiray sxb.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

General, When you have HJ, Arab, Gadabursi, Dhulbahante, Warsangeli fighting for you what's the point of making your men fight - just like maryo calool

[MrPrestige]

dee meesha sheekada wixi joogtaa Cidagale iyo Cisse muse - melaha kale haa kuu boodboodiin cidagale have large populations in ethiopia and Waqooyi galbeed - and you want to compare cisse Muse who settle predominantly in 1 gobol aka Saxiil with Cidagale who live in 3 numerous Gobols populating southern waqooyi ila the border to degaxbuur ogadenka heavily with cisse muse - even though berbera is shared , Sheikh is shared with them so is Maandheera - meesha walaga batay cisse muse ruunta haada raabtiid Muse cabdalle alone outnumbers them

[Salaaxley79]

Emperior also Ciidagale reached Hiiraan in between 1880s -1944 through pastoral movement and war.
I think are you are only shaming yourself , there is a reason Ciidagale retained the name.
the rest where just part of umbrella bact then which is arap and isxaaq.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Ducaysane maalin kasta waxaad inoo sheegaysa HY baa tuuladan leh but the reality is if a HY family went to live in borame you would say borame is shared between HY and gadabursi. The truth is saaxil is cisse musse territory and a few HY live there - just like in sheikh and berbera.

[The_Emperior5]

dee meesha sheekada wixi joogtaa Cidagale iyo Cisse muse - melaha kale haa kuu boodboodiin cidagale have large populations in ethiopia and Waqooyi galbeed - and you want to compare cisse Muse who settle predominantly in 1 gobol aka Saxiil with Cidagale who live in 3 numerous Gobols populating southern waqooyi ila the border to degaxbuur ogadenka heavily with cisse muse - even though berbera is shared , Sheikh is shared with them so is Maandheera - meesha walaga batay cisse muse ruunta haada raabtiid Muse cabdalle alone outnumbers them

Hargeisa is shared what woqoyi galbeed are you talking about horta are we talking about numbers of population wise or are we talking about how much land they have Well berbera is ciise muse city the mayor is ciise muse the commander of the police is ciise muse the governer of gobolka saaxil is ciise muse mareyaha dekkada is ciiisemuse so we can say Berbera is ciise muse
Now can you name a city where Ciidagalle live iyako oo kaliya oo bebera leeg. majirto
Ciidagalle wa reer gob ah run ahaanti my fav isaaq but they are not what they used to be sxb