We Have more In Common with Arabs Than Africans

[Murax]

100% true. I think I have said something about this before. Politics aside and what you think about Afrocentrism or what your position is in regards to "Arabization" of Somalia, culturally a Somali is more comfortable and could fit in easily in Damascus then in neighboring Nairobi. Somalis in Kenya, Tanzania and other African countries live separately as if they are a nation within a nation and the Kenyans will be the first to tell you but Somalis in Arab countries are as mainstream as the mainstream culture because of the similarity and parallel in mainstream Arab culture and Somali culture. It is not just the religion because I would think of a Somali living in Indonesia as living a nation within a nation life but can't think of that for a Somali living in Dubai or Egypt.

I said it before:

If we were siblings, it would be our twin. If a Somali went to faraway Baghdad or Amman how comfortable would he be with the local culture when compared with going to even nearby Addis Ababa and Nairobi? You can't even compare.

Voltage seems to be the only person who understood My point well. Everybody else are talking out of some sort of cuqdad or insecurity that they posses. I am Somali, not Arab and I do not have any particular disdain or love for Arabs. They are just like any other group to Me like Turks, Chinese, European etc. That being said considering the fact that Somalia is a failed state and are global refugees, I simply pointed out that the geographically cloesest people that Somalis can relate with are Arabs versus other Africans. I do not see a Somali really totally living anywhere else and being totally assimilated than in Arab Countries as I saw this first hand with My own eyes. Funny thing is I am Afrocentric When it comes to trade, commerce, diplomatic ties, etc. However on a social level it is impossible to have much social solidarity with other Africans even our direct neighbors!

[Murax]

Razzberry,

Darling, You need to get over whatever insecurities You have cuz it is getting overly noticiable. Truthflly speaking many Somalis have these same insescurities.


If it makes You feel better, I've been to HU and I think many African American girls are fine. Every race has their good looking and not so good looking, so no need to carry on Your campaign

[Cinque Mtume]

She is lying Cinque. The girl is a silent killer in terms of advancing Afro-centrism on this forum.

CM,

Midaan beenteeda ha u dhicin sxb. She's been making up these half-baked stories about Somalis for years.

Even though I know you guys are right, it could have been true guys.

[Murax]

She is lying Cinque. The girl is a silent killer in terms of advancing Afro-centrism on this forum.

CM,

Midaan beenteeda ha u dhicin sxb. She's been making up these half-baked stories about Somalis for years.

Even though I know you guys are right, it could have been true guys.

Ofcourse it coulda been true, laakin waxaa laga wadaa meesha ee ka soo wado

[AbdiWahab252]

Murax,

I am going to remind you in the words of the Great Abwan, James Brown: Say it Loud, I am black and Proud


We have more in common with Africans than Arabs. I suggest you spend a couple of months in a remote backwater like Hadramut in Yemen and spend the same time in a backwater in Kenya. A Somali can live well and prosper among the most backwater Black African Nation than if he were living among the most backwater Arab nation. You can find Somalis living and being part of the elite in significant numbers than say in any African nation unlike the Arab states. Somalis in Kenya got it better than their counterparts in Yemen.

I would not link the idea of sexual behavior and ethnicity. If we were to assess homosexuality, the Arabs would take the cake on it unlike the Africans. As for the availability of poontang, its out there if you seek it out whether you want to cruise using blue tooth in Saudi Arabia to avoid the moral police or simply get one delivered to your hotel room in Zanzibar.

[Voltage]

So a Somali woman will feel more comfortable wearing grass skirt in Kenya then wearing a black Shuko in Dubai? A Somali man will feel more comfortable eating millet in Kisumu then drinking tea in Cairo?

A lot of politicization is going on for something so obvious; our culture is pure and through middle eastern!

Remove even the cannotation of Arab and African. Compare how Somalis live in Mombasa and Nairobi. Nairobi is a 100% African city whereas Mombasa is a 100% Muslim/Middle Eastern city. Somalis live like a different nation in Nairobi while they freely loiter and drink their teas in the middle of Mombasa downtown. Ismaba laha wallahi their level of comfort and affiliation with the two cultures of those two cities!

BTW, Abdiwahab is a sujui from Kenya and Nomadicwarlord has said he was raised in Tanzania. They are a bias. We are talking about the culturally pure Somali from Somalia not ones who are more Kenyan/Tanzanian then they are even Somali.

[AbdiWahab252]

Murax,


In your heart of hearts, don't you feel any impulse to dance with these folks:

[Voltage]

Murax,


In your heart of hearts, don't you feel any impulse to dance with these folks:

All I can think of is a real Somali cultured man from Somalia saying what is this nacalad wearing hargo (animal hide).

[JaMaaL-23]

whats with Amxaaro and the shaking? its like they are having an epiliptic fit.

Gal Gala, blah blah Gal gala

bouncing girls

[razzberry]

What did they say exactly? You can't expect us to believe you if you just say it like that. What did they say?

They just simply pointed out that just because they shared a religion with Somalis didn’t mean they shared the same culture. They pointed out how that is one of the biggest stereotypes that people have about Muslim, that they are all some how the same.

As far as looking down on Somalis, I didn’t necessarily get a sense of racism against Somalis as much as I got a sense of them just feeling superior period.

[razzberry]

Razzberry,

Darling, You need to get over whatever insecurities You have cuz it is getting overly noticiable. Truthflly speaking many Somalis have these same insescurities.


If it makes You feel better, I've been to HU and I think many African American girls are fine. Every race has their good looking and not so good looking, so no need to carry on Your campaign

WTF does any of that have to do with the topic of this thread

[paidmonk]

Being Somali its natural to feel a closeness to Arab culture. I always felt foreign even towards Somali music but felt as if I was right at home when listening to Arabian traditional instruments; like a bizarrely close culture that in reality I'd never experienced.

My Conclusion: When I tell Africans I'm Somali its "whatever" but when I tell Arabs I'm Somali its like revealing a cousin to them. Some of it definitely has to do with religion but if they're from the Arabian peninsula in particular they will feel a lot closer to a Somali than even a Maghrebi.

[shitguy]

I always lean towards the africans in these sort of debates but attempting to counter the topic starters points is an excercise in futile. What made me drawn more to the African brothers is the racist nature of arabs. I think razzberry was speaking the truth when she said Arabs look down upon us. Those who doubt her have never been to or lived among them. To them we are no different from the rest of Africa, Any special treatment accorded to a Somali by an Arab is probably because of the Islamic connection. it's true we are connected culturaly but we are as madow as any other to all Arabs. The other thing is why are the only once obsessed with the arabs? Most west African coutries are Muslims too but I doubt they distance themselves from the rest of Africa as we do trying to be close to a people that truely see us as inferior to them.

[Nabeela]

It's amazing how some of you concluded that Murax must be a self hater, because he has more in common with Carabta, cultural wise, than Africanka kale, without going into too much details he is right, and it has nothing to do with self hate, or anything like that, our cultural is very similar.

[BaasAbuur]

I think its Islam that makes us identify more with Arabs. Africans enjoy drinking Alcohol, fornicate, and eat non halal food. so if we can't eat together, pray together, and la isla rafan karin the case is closed.

I agree. Practicing muslims will associate with other practicing muslims while the alcoholics and the sinners will associate with other alcoholics and sinners.