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Re: If You Were Offered......

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Surrender;
Of course China would not be where it is today without Mao, he was instrumental in establishing the modern Chinese state, gaining international prestige etc. I meant his domestic policies post-1957 were an unmitigated disaster. The GLF was a massive disaster, starved 9-20 million, Cultural Revolution brought the country to its knees, the only positive effect it had was how it enabled Deng to put forward his Four Modernizations without dealing with opposition from the party bureacrats who were busy working on farms or dead :clap:
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Personally, Ina adeer, if you believe si xaramnimo ah aya dadkaan dhulkooda loga qaatey then you must not accept that job. I respect, and Allah loves, those who earn even few dollars enough to live, than those who are millionaires and are because of injustice.
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Voltage wrote:Let's get real Gedo_Girl, how long are you going to wait to see the social evolution of that traditionalism? Thousands years? In the mean water is becoming such a scarcity it will replace oil as the prime commodity inducing wars. Listen walaal, the more you prepare people and equip them with modern skills the more you are serving them and helping them out. Keep that for morality! Like Mad May said, China was prepared by Chairman Mao but without the extreme restructuring of their economic policies in the 80's which changed their thousand year old systems to capitalism, they would not be what they are today. Similarly the Europeans got to where they are by declaring war on traditionalism, the Church, and even antiquity. Just a few years after these people were dying of being so dirty and hungry, they were sailing around the world in the next generation.

You are getting paid to prepare these people for survival. What hang ups do you have?
The hang up I have is that what your saying and the real issue are very different. One is of a people furthering themselves through their own initiative, the other is of imposition of 'development' as a smokescreen for capitalist endeavor! It may not take a thousand years, who are we to know that? How can one justify what is blatant corruption and a capitalist transaction as a gesture of good will? We have a lot to learn from these 'traditional' societies, they are not impacting on the health of the planet in the same way as these 'developed' societies are. At some point, the way we are headed, many people will be unable to afford the quality of life we live in, this may be an option for some. And as for the water wars, again...if they dont own the water, how can they profit from it, thanks to corruption and invasions, more people will suffer as a result for the West's greed, how did you link that to their advancement?

Yes, capitalism needs to spread to these people, but through their own initiative. Europe, China, the Us, they all played the leading role in their transformations, that is why they stand by them, and why they further it, unlike Africa which doesnt even know or own herself, therefore wont grow.

sadeboi... theoretically yes, because these people wouldnt be able to buy the land, its happens often in Africa that a group claim a land because it is their 'ancestral' 'traditional' land, but dont own it, and in once case I remember, they did own a prime piece of land they bought not long after independence, and the Government simply took it and blocked the courts from allowing a trial. Waa blatant theft in my view. The housing and the schooling is a band aid in my opinion, but atleast they had the good will of thinking of that, many others haven't.
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Re: If You Were Offered......

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You are having moral issues with this job offer, and the only reason for you pondering, as to whether accept it or not, is due to the financial gains. So I would like to remind you that it is a jihad for every Muslim to exercise control of their passions and desires.
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Re: If You Were Offered......

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I would do it any time. Money comes before morals :up:

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HutuKing01 wrote:I would do it any time. Money comes before morals :up:
That's because you lost your imaan a long time ago.
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Re: If You Were Offered......

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Loool sadeboi, jazaakaAllah khair for the khutba :lol:
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Re: If You Were Offered......

Post by xamd »

Voltage is what you call a positivist.

The difference between traditional lifestyles and modern consumerist lifestyles is that the former was sustainable while the latter can only last for a small period of time.

If all the undeveloped countries we're developed, there would be immediate ecological collapse of this planet.
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