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Narcissistic

was it a careless copy and paste i wonder :lol: still, very good read :D

is FGM the same as Islamic circumcision, or is it FGM the mentioned "Pharaonic" circomcision ?
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grandpakhalif wrote:
nomadicwarlord wrote:FGM is a cruel practice, should be abolished completely. :down:
Please no bashing this noble practice
Female Genital Mutilation is the way in which scholars and fanatics, in their infinite haughtiness, think that they are correcting Allah's mistakes in the body of women. They think that they are better than Allah about women's body issues...

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snoop12 wrote: is FGM the same as Islamic circumcision, or is it FGM the mentioned "Pharaonic" circomcision ?
Lol Snoop, no, I remember reading this awhile back. Glad you enjoyed it though. :)

I don't know exactly what FGM entails, but I don't think it would be a far-fetched notion to conclude it is indeed the latter.
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FGM is nt allowed in Islam u dumb fukin twat. Suni gudnin is allowed bt nt da exreme baberic African style. :down:
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Kamal35 wrote:
grandpakhalif wrote:
nomadicwarlord wrote:FGM is a cruel practice, should be abolished completely. :down:
Please no bashing this noble practice
Female Genital Mutilation is the way in which scholars and fanatics, in their infinite haughtiness, think that they are correcting Allah's mistakes in the body of women. They think that they are better than Allah about women's body issues...

:roll:




istaqfurulah Allah makes no mistkes. :shock: :down:
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istaqfurulah Allah makes no mistkes. :shock: :down:[/quote]

That's my point exactly. I was talking about the fanatics who think that they have to correct what they consider an Allah's mistake in the body of women.

They don't bear in mind, in the other side, that FGM is a pre-islamic tradition. FGM is both in some muslim countries and christian countries in Africa.
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Aniga waxay ila tahay:

In sancada Ilaahay sanco ka fiicani aysan jirin..Allaah SWT xubin kasta oo bani aadamka jidhkiisa ka mid ah, there is a reason he created :up: How can his creatures do better than him?
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grandpakhalif wrote:Praise be to Allaah. Circumcision is not an inherited custom as some people claim, rather it is prescribed in Islam and the scholars are unanimously agreed that it is prescribed. Not a single Muslim scholar – as far as we know – has said that circumcision is not prescribed. Their evidence is to be found in the saheeh ahaadeeth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), which prove that it is prescribed, for example: 1- The hadeeth narrated by al-Bukhaari (5889) and Muslim (257) from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him), that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "The fitrah is five things – or five things are part of the fitrah – circumcision, shaving the pubes, cutting the nails, plucking the armpit hairs, and trimming the moustache." This hadeeth includes circumcision of both males and females.
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grandpakhalif,



You are a Fool doqonyahow feera yar leh, FGM is a barbaric backward tradition. :down:
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Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) is a barbaric and pre-islamic tradition. It has nothing to do with religions or beliefs. It started in the pre-islamic era when old men and women, fathers and mothers, grandpas and grandmas started realising, in some tribes in Africa that girls, at an early age, started to touch their vagina and the found a certain pleasure on doing this.

From the point of view of a naturalist, an observer, it would be the beginning for the preparation to sex, which would be followed by sexual relationship and would be followed by sexual intercourse in order to prevail human kind.

There's a instinct in human kind which is the instinct of sex, what means: it's the instinct to create newborns. If there's not that instinct, human beings, as all the animals on the Earth, would disappear in a matter of a couple of generations. It's the instinct of reproduction.

In the pre-islamic era, this instinct by women was associated with pleasure, pervertion, some kind of sin or whatever. Pleasure, in barbaric traditions, was asociated with the man, not with the woman. A man feeling pleasure on sex was right. A woman feeling pleasure on sex was wrong. You have it in the Egiptian traditions, Greek traditions, Roman traditions... whatever.

It was supposed, in the pre-islamic cultures, that only men could feel pleasure on having sex in order to reproduction. Male is like the lion: he has to fertilize all females all around while females have to choose the perfect male in order to have the best babies. Male is spreading all his ADN in all possible females and females have to choose the perfect male. You can see that on lions, tigers, etc.

But something went wrong when human males could not fecundize properly human females. Then, in the try of justifying themselves, they thought: It's not my mistake if I'm not hot enough... It's HER mistake because she's too hot all the time.

Wrong. After millions of years of evolution, you can hear the same reasons today. It's not my mistake. It's because she's too much hot, it's because she's a... whore...

So, in the tribes, in the pre-islamic era, when 60 years old men bought 15 years old girls for marriage, all them hot and living, and the old men couldn't have sex intercourses because they were too old, the spread the idea and tradition that girls had a problem in their body: the clitoris, which made them so hot, unpure and ready to go with another guy younger than the old husband. The old men found that, when touching a girl in a certain part of her body, she reacted with pleasure and got excited. "This is the problem", they said: "This part of her body is the problem". Clit.

So the old husbands decided, in some kind of era, that women would be unpure while having that part of her body. In a patriarcal culture, women were like slaves of men, men were the guys in charge of the tribe. Men decided that women could not have pleasure in the sex intercourses because they, women, could be dangerous having pleasure. They could go with other men, younger men, who could satisfy them sexually.

So they ordered to their wives that no a girl could have the essence of pleasure for them. They called that "purism": A girl with not sexual desire was pure while a girl with sexual desire was "unpure".

Hence, from then on, Female Genital Mutilation started to become a cultural/traditional practise in order to preserve the male integrity against female phisical desire... Pleasure, for a woman, in sex, is the way to learn that sexuality brings both the pleasure of reproduction and the pain of reproduction.

FGM is privating a woman for the pleasure of life.

Considering this barbaric tradition as an islamic tradition is a great mistake. If Islam has something real positive, it is that Islam never goes against the instincts. In the opposite: Islam is a very instinctive religion.
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FGM is halal and when I become president it will be mandatory to an age limit of 9 if not administered by then your daughter will be considered illegal citizen and be indited and deported! Kamal, this is too make women pure not 'sexual pleasure'.
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circumcision diintu sheegayso iyo FGMku waa kalabo, mise adiguna dramakaad jeceshahay oo inaad naga hadishiisid uun baad rabtaa. wax haiska dhihin adaan diinta waxba kaogayn. :up:
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