So, this is you evidence that he is murtad?sadeboi wrote:Sharif had a view of Muslims who support foreign armies in Muslim lands, today that view applies to him.
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Re: The biggest flip-flopper in the modern era
How hard is it for poeple to understand,i did not speak for sharif nor did i put words in his mouth.Everything is in the video,he more than speaks for him self,he says more than mouth full.sharif himself stated that he is a murtad based on his previous beliefs with justifications from the religion and his later actions. So, my view is not even needed, I believe Sharif is correct on his assessment of his own self
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Re: The biggest flip-flopper in the modern era
new-york24 calling someone who is a better muslim than you a Murtard is disgusting. You fcuking Ogaden rat 
If you got any brains listen to your cousin patriot

If you got any brains listen to your cousin patriot

Re: The biggest flip-flopper in the modern era
Twisted_Logic wrote:So, this is you evidence that he is murtad?sadeboi wrote:Sharif had a view of Muslims who support foreign armies in Muslim lands, today that view applies to him.
I never said Sharif is a Murtad, there was no need for my opinion since Sharif himself views himself in that light based on his previous beliefs and his later actions. It would be more befitting if you go to Sharif himself and ask him such a questions.
Patriot, Kismayo nor Barre Hiiraale, nor any of the meaningless tribal outlook of yours matter to me. So speak of them as you wish.
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You said Sharif said he is a murtad based on his views on the presence of "infidel troops" in Somalia and you stated that you agreed with him that such presence of foreign troops is enough to make a person an apostate. So my logical question is, does this magic rule extend to Hiraale and the other warlords who lead Ethiopians into Somalia to be murtads too or is this yardstick only pertinent to Sharif?sadeboi wrote:Twisted_Logic wrote:So, this is you evidence that he is murtad?sadeboi wrote:Sharif had a view of Muslims who support foreign armies in Muslim lands, today that view applies to him.
I never said Sharif is a Murtad, there was no need for my opinion since Sharif himself views himself in that light based on his previous beliefs and his later actions. It would be more befitting if you go to Sharif himself and ask him such a questions.
Patriot, Kismayo nor Barre Hiiraale, nor any of the meaningless tribal outlook of yours matter to me. So speak of them as you wish.
Re: The biggest flip-flopper in the modern era
I see selective reading is the activity of the day, let us remove Sadeboi's personal view since it was never presented. However, what was presented by me was the fact Sharif made a verdict on people who work with and invite foreign armies into Muslim Land and partake in their killings, and today he fits into that category of people who work with and invite foreign armies into Muslim Land, thus Sharif of 2006 gave a verdict to the actions of Sharif of 2009-2010, and I only pointed that out. I never mentioned if I supported him on his early verdict of himself, or belief he is a murtad.Twisted_Logic wrote:
You said Sharif said he is a murtad based on his views on the presence of "infidel troops" in Somalia and you stated that you agreed with him that such presence of foreign troops is enough to make a person an apostate. So my logical question is, does this magic rule extend to Hiraale and the other warlords who lead Ethiopians into Somalia to be murtads too or is this yardstick only pertinent to Sharif?
Anyone who brings foreign armies in Somalia does not have my support; be my own father.
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Dude arent you the one that started throwing stones at peoples houses when yours was made of glass?sadeboi wrote:Twisted_Logic wrote:So, this is you evidence that he is murtad?sadeboi wrote:Sharif had a view of Muslims who support foreign armies in Muslim lands, today that view applies to him.
I never said Sharif is a Murtad, there was no need for my opinion since Sharif himself views himself in that light based on his previous beliefs and his later actions. It would be more befitting if you go to Sharif himself and ask him such a questions.
Patriot, Kismayo nor Barre Hiiraale, nor any of the meaningless tribal outlook of yours matter to me. So speak of them as you wish.
Tell me why didnt you not know that it was a meaningless tribal outlook to support a ruthless warlord for the past 9 yrs?
or Since you are marexan you have a special status of being a champion which ever part you take sides with?
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wlc back galia.Son_of_Somalia wrote:new-york24 calling someone who is a better muslim than you a Murtard is disgusting. You fcuking Ogaden rat
If you got any brains listen to your cousin patriot
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Re: The biggest flip-flopper in the modern era
Guys, walahi allow hating on sadeboi because he's just a Boon



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It is not so cute as you make it. You said you agreed with his assertions that he is murtad. This is your very commentsadeboi wrote:I see selective is the activity of the day, let us remove Sadeboi's personal view since it was never presented. However, what was presented by me was the fact Sharif made a verdict on people who work with and invite foreign armies into Muslim Land and partake in their killings, and today he fits into that category of people who work with and invite foreign armies into Muslim Land, thus Sharif of 2006 gave a verdict to the actions of Sharif of 2009-2010, and I only pointed that out. I never mentioned if I supported him on his early verdict of himself, or belief he is a murtad.Twisted_Logic wrote:
You said Sharif said he is a murtad based on his views on the presence of "infidel troops" in Somalia and you stated that you agreed with him that such presence of foreign troops is enough to make a person an apostate. So my logical question is, does this magic rule extend to Hiraale and the other warlords who lead Ethiopians into Somalia to be murtads too or is this yardstick only pertinent to Sharif?
Anyone who brings foreign armies in Somalia does not have my support; be my own father.
Now tell me, do you see Hiraale and others who lead Ethiopians into Somalia to be Murtads too or does this magic determinant apply only on Sharif and other Hawiye leaders?sadeboi wrote:Patriot, gather your thoughts bro.
Cumar-Labasuul, Gatspy, Myself, New-York, 1nemansquad, Mr.Yungfresh, and many more people have different tribal background, geographical background, and a different upbringing yet you can say we all have similar ideological beliefs on my occasions. You nor I had a say in our genetic makeup, yet we have a say in our ideologies/beliefs/values, so yes people could and should differentiate between religious beliefs and tribal affiliations.
Twisted, your question was phrased wrongly. I believe sharif is a hypocrite, and sharif himself stated that he is a murtad based on his previous beliefs with justifications from the religion and his later actions. So, my view is not even needed, I believe Sharif is correct on his assessment of his own self.
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Re: The biggest flip-flopper in the modern era
Ben badhnida?sadeboi wrote:
I see selective is the activity of the day, let us remove Sadeboi's personal view since it was never presented.........................................
Anyone who brings foreign armies in Somalia does not have my support; be my own father.
Warninyahow Ilahey Kacabso?
Were you not still supporting and defending huraale, even after he said he will bring anyone to help him even a Yahood w
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Horta what happened to you, walahi you changednew-york24 wrote:wlc back galia.Son_of_Somalia wrote:new-york24 calling someone who is a better muslim than you a Murtard is disgusting. You fcuking Ogaden rat
If you got any brains listen to your cousin patriot


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Son-of-Somalia,
Newyork believes that supporting Al Shabab will further the interest of Ogadeen. Sadeboi just can't stand anyone other than his clan in power, so he has to be outraged against them.
Newyork believes that supporting Al Shabab will further the interest of Ogadeen. Sadeboi just can't stand anyone other than his clan in power, so he has to be outraged against them.
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Politicians often change their minds so why not Sheikh Sharif. Maybe his former stance was wrong and finally saw the light. Wish him luck in his endeavors that's all. Go get em Sheikh Sharif.



Re: The biggest flip-flopper in the modern era
Twisted_Logic wrote:It is not so cute as you make it. You said you agreed with his assertions that he is murtad. This is your very commentsadeboi wrote:I see selective is the activity of the day, let us remove Sadeboi's personal view since it was never presented. However, what was presented by me was the fact Sharif made a verdict on people who work with and invite foreign armies into Muslim Land and partake in their killings, and today he fits into that category of people who work with and invite foreign armies into Muslim Land, thus Sharif of 2006 gave a verdict to the actions of Sharif of 2009-2010, and I only pointed that out. I never mentioned if I supported him on his early verdict of himself, or belief he is a murtad.Twisted_Logic wrote:
You said Sharif said he is a murtad based on his views on the presence of "infidel troops" in Somalia and you stated that you agreed with him that such presence of foreign troops is enough to make a person an apostate. So my logical question is, does this magic rule extend to Hiraale and the other warlords who lead Ethiopians into Somalia to be murtads too or is this yardstick only pertinent to Sharif?
Anyone who brings foreign armies in Somalia does not have my support; be my own father.
Now tell me, do you see Hiraale and others who lead Ethiopians into Somalia to be Murtads too or does this magic determinant apply only on Sharif and other Hawiye leaders?sadeboi wrote:Patriot, gather your thoughts bro.
Cumar-Labasuul, Gatspy, Myself, New-York, 1nemansquad, Mr.Yungfresh, and many more people have different tribal background, geographical background, and a different upbringing yet you can say we all have similar ideological beliefs on my occasions. You nor I had a say in our genetic makeup, yet we have a say in our ideologies/beliefs/values, so yes people could and should differentiate between religious beliefs and tribal affiliations.
Twisted, your question was phrased wrongly. I believe sharif is a hypocrite, and sharif himself stated that he is a murtad based on his previous beliefs with justifications from the religion and his later actions. So, my view is not even needed, I believe Sharif is correct on his assessment of his own self.
Sh.Sharif is correct on his assessment of himself in 2009-2010 based on his words and justifications he used in 2006, which would be fitting for ANY individual who brings foreign armies into Muslim land as he stated. Categorizing the later him and many others. I do not care for his Hawiyeness, Twisted, you really acting simple. How many discussions have I had with you privately, and did I once imply or even state that views you had were so because of your tribal background or any of your backgrounds or did I discuss my views as a Marexaan man, or did I reply to you in manner in which we were individuals with different set of beliefs and ideas? Why then use it in public when it was never brought up by either of us in private?
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