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Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:01 am
by ModerateMuslim
Twisted_Logic wrote:Actually, it was Pakistan that gave the Chinese Uranium Enrichment Technology.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:03 am
by AbdiWahab252
Yet their economy is for shit. Pakistan should focus on crushing the Taliban, reform its economy and make an accommodation with India.


Unless you have a strong growing economy, your military will always be at risk especially if it faces problems meeting its expenditure. Pakistan relies heavily on foreign assistance to support its economy and military unlike India.

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:03 am
by AbdiWahab252
Somali-Star wrote:
Twisted_Logic wrote:Actually, it was Pakistan that gave the Chinese Uranium Enrichment Technology.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That is true.

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:09 am
by ModerateMuslim
AbdiWahab252 wrote:
Somali-Star wrote:
Twisted_Logic wrote:Actually, it was Pakistan that gave the Chinese Uranium Enrichment Technology.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That is true.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

guess this is also "true":
Pakistan is better than China when it comes to Cruise Missiles and Nuclear Technology.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:12 am
by AbdiWahab252
SomaliStar,

Look up AQ Khan, the most brilliant Islamic scientist of our time.

Unlike your ilk that spurn technology and would send us back to the stone age, its the Secularist Muslims who pave the way for advance research.

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:15 am
by Twisted_Logic
Somali-Star wrote:the worlds most embarrassing military...rarely ever has a military been humiliated on consistent basis like the napak army vis-a-vis its two principle enemies: india and ttp. so surely this thread must be a joke...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:19 am
by Twisted_Logic
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Yet their economy is for shit. Pakistan should focus on crushing the Taliban, reform its economy and make an accommodation with India.


Unless you have a strong growing economy, your military will always be at risk especially if it faces problems meeting its expenditure. Pakistan relies heavily on foreign assistance to support its economy and military unlike India.
Pakistani economy was growing at a huge rate during the Musharraf era till the surge in violence by the Talibs. Unfortunately, Musharraf saw the Talib threat more of a law and order threat than a military one. He employed the Frontier Corps which is a paramilitary force to deal with them. The results were very tragic. His successor Gen Ashfaq Kiyani is a military tactician of the highest calibre who is also a practicing secularist. He gave the Talibs like 48 hours to roll back after they broke one of the deals they signed with Musharraf and when they refused unleashed hell on them. He has eliminated its top leadership and in quick time liberated Swat and North Waziristan and denied the Talibs a room to maneuver.

It is only a matter of time before the Talib is crushed for good and only then will the Pakistani economy surge again. Right now, not many people are willing to invest in the country because of the terror threat.

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:20 am
by Twisted_Logic
AbdiWahab252 wrote:
Somali-Star wrote:
Twisted_Logic wrote:Actually, it was Pakistan that gave the Chinese Uranium Enrichment Technology.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That is true.
What do you expect from a jahil who has never opened a book :lol: :lol:

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:23 am
by AbdiWahab252
TL,

He and his ilk would burn the libraries and research labs of Islamabad like the Mongols who destroyed Baghdad's libraries :down:


Do the Talibs believe in using electricity ? After the Salaf did not use electricity ?

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:23 am
by Twisted_Logic
AbdiWahab252 wrote:SomaliStar,

Look up AQ Khan, the most brilliant Islamic scientist of our time.

Unlike your ilk that spurn technology and would send us back to the stone age, its the Secularist Muslims who pave the way for advance research.
That is the most popular myth in the world. Far from being a brilliant scientist, DR A Q Khan was a religious zealot who blackmailed and took credit for the work done by other scientist. The real scientists who worked on the Pakistani Nuclear Program never came on public or spoke with the media. Dr A Q Khan used this as a means to prop up his name. He was in part helped by Gen Zia Ul Haq who was suspicious of the secularists.

Dr A Q Khan wasn't even a nuclear scientist. His field is meteorology.

Dr Munir Khan is often considered as the real Father of the Pakistani Nuclear Program. Men like Dr Abdus Salam who won a Nobel Prize in Nuclear Physics deserves more recognition than Dr A Q Khan. It is hugely tragic that some religious zealots trashed his grave.

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:25 am
by Twisted_Logic
AbdiWahab252 wrote:TL,

He and his ilk would burn the libraries and research labs of Islamabad like the Mongols who destroyed Baghdad's libraries :down:


Do the Talibs believe in using electricity ? After the Salaf did not use electricity ?
:lol:

That is tragically so true. They believe that everyone should be jahil and blind so that the one eyed man could lead. Education is their biggest enemy. The first thing they did was to burn girl's schools and then followed up with any form of education. This is important because an illiterate society is easier to control than a literate one.

We need an Atta Turk solution to this menace.

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:25 am
by ModerateMuslim
AbdiWahab252 wrote:SomaliStar,

Look up AQ Khan, the most brilliant Islamic scientist of our time.

Unlike your ilk that spurn technology and would send us back to the stone age, its the Secularist Muslims who pave the way for advance research.
dude, you've no idea what you're talking bout. i'd recommend this book to cure your jahilnimo - The Man from Pakistan: The True Story of the World's Most Dangerous Nuclear Smuggler:

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the cover alone should tell you all you need to know about the "most brilliant islamic scientist of our time" - the thief and nuclear smuggler aq khan.

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:26 am
by AbdiWahab252
TL,

Attaturk was a mild man. We need someone like the late great Hafez Al-Assad (Xafidullah)

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:32 am
by GeoDesic
Twisted_Logic wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Where do you get this from? There is a difference between Reverse Engineering and Transfer of Technology. When Pakistan buys a big ticket item, it usually asks for a transfer of technology so that it can manufacture these technologies in its own country. Pakistan is better than China when it comes to Cruise Missiles and Nuclear Technology. Actually, it was Pakistan that gave the Chinese Uranium Enrichment Technology. North Korea is like years behind Pakistan.

And NO ONE can compete with the US. Not at least in the next 2-3 decades. America still shits on the world when it comes to technology.


Pakistan's leap in missile technology is largerly due to reverse engineering. They learned all they know on their own by dismantling the technology they bought and reverse engineer it. No country would give Pakistan transfer of technology rights. A good example of stealing technology would be the Tomahawk cruise missile you posted, the red cruise missile. Some military analysts allege that when the US fired those cruise missiles in Taliban territory in 1998, One of them fell into the hands of Pakistani Scientists. The result was Tomahawk Cruise Missile Version made by pakistan and named BABAR.

Re: Islamic World's Most Powerful Military

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:32 am
by Twisted_Logic
AbdiWahab252 wrote:TL,

Attaturk was a mild man. We need someone like the late great Hafez Al-Assad (Xafidullah)
:lol:

No, man. Atta Turk is my inspiration in life. Religious people should be weakened to the point that they are not even a threat to their grandmothers. His awesomeness Atta Turk saw the bigotry of religious people and the devastation they can inflict almost a century before they were a threat.