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S_lander-boy wrote:
National Security Service (NSS) included executions and "beatings while tied in a contorted position, electric shocks, rape of woman prisoners, simulated executions and death threats.

Lander boy

So how in the world the man in charge of the said torture office is now the head of state for Hargeisa enclave? Can u answer that question without being baised?

Oxidant,

One wrong does not make the other ones right. Remember that injustice breeds other injustice. If the world community had moved quickly to stop the previous regime's brutal actions early on, then the USC, SNM, SSDF etc would have also been very careful about what they did because of what punishment lay ahead for them.

Remember, one man will die but the consequences of his actions will live on.

Moguul21 wrote:

S_lander-boy wrote:Great topics AW He will be brought to justice they got him cornered now , and the next war criminal that will be brought to justice is morgan he will be next (where the fuk is he anyway) !


The thing I noticed it seems like ppl from the ''Hawiye clan and Isaaq clan'' look at this issue from a neutral point of view while the doroos are biased to the core and supporting this war criminal no wonder Somalia is a failed state.

Morgan is in Kenya sipping shaah while pleasing ilko cas chicks

A man on the run has a life of fear, if he won't be brought to justice on earth on the here after he will !

Oxidant if you accuse you must produce (evidence) what about SNM they where freedom fighters fightin against the oppressor.

Sir-Luggoyo wrote:

S_lander-boy wrote:
National Security Service (NSS) included executions and "beatings while tied in a contorted position, electric shocks, rape of woman prisoners, simulated executions and death threats.

Lander boy

So how in the world the man in charge of the said torture office is now the head of state for Hargeisa enclave? Can u answer that question without being baised?

Riyaale was like many other ppl from the north part of the former goverment , but if you can present evidence that he is a war criminal then he should be brought to justice otherwise your arguments dont hold any water.

Folks,

SLanderBoy supports bringing Riyaale to justice if the evidence is presented. But unlike Samatar, he lives in his homeland and not in the USA where Samatar enjoys his days out.

Landerboy,

YOU presented the evidence unless you are on some drugs

S_lander-boy wrote:
Amnesty International went on to report that torture methods committed by Barre's National Security Service (NSS) included executions and "beatings while tied in a contorted position, electric shocks, rape of woman prisoners, simulated executions and death threats.

Isn't that enough evidence? If he was in charge, then every prisoner tortured there, falls squarely on Riyaale's shoulders

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Oxidant,

One wrong does not make the other ones right. Remember that injustice breeds other injustice. If the world community had moved quickly to stop the previous regime's brutal actions early on, then the USC, SNM, SSDF etc would have also been very careful about what they did because of what punishment lay ahead for them.

Remember, one man will die but the consequences of his actions will live on.

What a pathetic attempt for an excuse.

SNM started simply because Mohamed Siad’s Finance Minister, Abdulahi Ahmed Addow, closed down the Berbera trade which at that time enjoyed a tax-free exportation, on what he claimed were fiscal grounds. This lead to the rise of the clan-based SNM rebel group who by showing their dissatisfaction with this move by the Finance Minister, decided to start taking arms against the Somali government

SSDF started simply because MJ always wanted to be in power of Somalia. They thought they could capitalize on the failure of the Ogaden war. They had no right to try and oust Barre

USC started simply because they were Hawiye


They removed Barre from Somaliland and eventually the whole Somalia. Yet SNM militias killed innocent non-Issaqs in Somaliland. Darood and Hawiye went to war and after that Hawiye went to war with themselves

Don’t blame Barre who trying to unify Somalia. Blame those greedy power hungry clansmen who always wanted power

Luggoyo


I am not defending Riyaale at all , he is indeed no better the likes of Abdillahi yusuf and all those other old farts. I have said I am not biased but you lot are !

Oxidant,

So do you support that if someone kills your immediate cousins and uncles that you should simply do nothing about it ?

The Government of Siyaad Barre killed several of my immediate cousins and uncles who were not USC on a Friday before Friday prayers in November 1989. They did nothing wrong before they were tied up and executed with machine gun fire.

Was that a war crime ?

I'm so confused....



Truth be told I don't care. I just want more posts.

The irony of this topic is very revolting. Abdiwahab and Emperior are cheering for the arrest of Ali Samatar when they are the same hypocrites who idolize Caydiid.

Munafaqin foqol Munafaqin

The SNM (Somali National movement) started . a group of Isaaq living in London formed the Somali National Movement (SNM), which The SNM objectives where establishment of a representative democracy that would guarantee human rights and freedom of speech. SNM was started because SIyad barre's goverment was bombing his own citizens and cities and Killing incarcerating proffesors important ppl from the the north for no reason. that is how the SNM started FREEDOM FIGHTERS !

S_lander-boy wrote: SNM was started because SIyad barre's goverment was bombing his own citizens and cities and Killing incarcerating proffesors important ppl from the the north for no reason. that is how the SNM started FREEDOM FIGHTERS !

I suggest you go do some more research,SNM was started because of power greed and nothing more. As a matter of fact they had their own agendas from the get go(unlike SSDF and the other movements) and that was to secede from Somalia. it was only in the late 80s the government targeted civilians and they became "freedom fighters".

Hutusga iyo sheekada la yimaadeen ayaan la yaabay

Kulaha the dawlad who brought U from the bushes, gave U free education, taught U how to write Afsomali, sent U overseas, build houses for U, gave U a job suddenly picks U up from the Mosque and shoots U?

AbdiHutu Ur a focking retard

S_lander-boy ciyaal foqal ciyaal, kulaha snm started in 1988. War SNM started cause khatka laga yare. there were fighting in early 80s. When mengistu kicked them out in 1988 ayee dagaal ka bilaabeen in peaceful cities naanaabyaho