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Re: Short Biography on Cumar Carte qalib
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:39 pm
by GENERAL_SNM
Dhaga Bacayl wrote:The_Emperior5 wrote:After all that, Omer Arte didn't do shit for his people then and he's not doing it now.
His legacy got stuck in the 70s.
true inadeer waagi la xiidhay eeh la soo dayey waxay ahayd inu iskaga soo baxa qudhanka ay walaaqanayen Faqashtu
His political point view is unstable. I even asked him where he stands and he once told group of us that he was pro-Somaliland and his multiple interest of becoming the president of Somaliland, once in 93 and later in 2002, should speak volume. It kind a make sense but yet AGAIN one should wonder why he only comes to Somaliland when he’s running for an office. Because of that reason alone, his creditability of pure Lander is shot. For some strange reason, people LOVE this guy though!
Having said that, I would NOT compare him to Ismail Ali Abokor who was heavily involved in bringing Siyad Bare in to power and the coup against Cigal’s government in 1969, the only chance Somaliland had in order to gain large share of the pie. In 993, when Cigal (RIP) was appointed to lead Somaliland, he said in public forum that he forgive everyone who was from Somaliland and was involved or assisted in the coup of 69 against him EXCEPT Ismail Ali Abokor. Evidently, Ismail Ali Abokor stays away from the current Somaliland/Somalia political platform.
Whats the difference between those two above mentioned men and igaal. They were all serving afwyene in one capacity or another even when the SNM was up in arms in the late 80s. The only politicians who deserve respect are those who were SNM when it was unfashionable.
Re: Short Biography on Cumar Carte qalib
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:46 pm
by Dhaga Bacayl
[quote="GENERAL_SNMWhats the difference between those two above mentioned men and igaal. .[/quote]
WFT..are u f-king kidding me?
I'm not even gonna address that....
Re: Short Biography on Cumar Carte qalib
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:47 pm
by koohi
war malaha waad xanuunsanaysaa.
burburka somalia maaha wax lagu farxo hadii somalliland ay go'ayso ama lasoo noqonayso saad doontidba u dhig kama dhigna waa inay burburtaa somalia somali 1,2,3 dawladood ama kabadan way noqon karaan lkn dadku waxa ka dhexeeya wax aan kala go'ay nacas yahow muuska koonfur laga keeno waa inaad hargaysa laguugu keena bilaa isbaaro adna waa inaad xamar u iib gaysaa waxaad rabtid bilaa isbaaro. but not like what happened to somaliland truck drivers when they are kidnapped by some mooryaans from puntland.
Re: Short Biography on Cumar Carte qalib
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:48 pm
by The_Emperior5
Dhaga Bacayl wrote:[quote="GENERAL_SNMWhats the difference between those two above mentioned men and igaal. .
WFT..are f-king kidding me?
I'm not even gonna address that....
[/quote]
Ignore him Waxa looma jawaabo
Re: Short Biography on Cumar Carte qalib
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:50 pm
by The_Emperior5
koohi wrote:war malaha waad xanuunsanaysaa.
burburka somalia maaha wax lagu farxo hadii somalliland ay go'ayso ama lasoo noqonayso saad doontidba u dhig kama dhigna waa inay burburtaa somalia somali 1,2,3 dawladood ama kabadan way noqon karaan lkn dadku waxa ka dhexeeya wax aan kala go'ay nacas yahow muuska koonfur laga keeno waa inaad hargaysa laguugu keena bilaa isbaaro adna waa inaad xamar u iib gaysaa waxaad rabtid bilaa isbaaro. but not like what happened to somaliland truck drivers when they are kidnapped by some mooryaans from puntland.
sxb anigu dee somalia ma burburin bal caqligan eega Ciidanki Somalia joogay haday ku biri lahayeen usc ama jabhada koonfuureed wa mid u taala iyaga. Laakin Jabhada SNM waxay asaastay Somaliland , burburka somalia waxa kaliya ku xidhantahay dadka somaliya daggan kuma xidhna siyasinta somaliland ama shacabka somaliland
Re: Short Biography on Cumar Carte qalib
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:10 pm
by GENERAL_SNM
Dhaga Bacayl wrote:[quote="GENERAL_SNMWhats the difference between those two above mentioned men and igaal. .
WFT..are u f-king kidding me?
I'm not even gonna address that....
[/quote]
Its a fair question. During the struggle all those men were MIA.
Re: Short Biography on Cumar Carte qalib
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:30 pm
by Dhaga Bacayl
GENERAL_SNM wrote:Dhaga Bacayl wrote:[quote="GENERAL_SNMWhats the difference between those two above mentioned men and igaal. .
WFT..are u f-king kidding me?
I'm not even gonna address that....
Its a fair question. During the struggle all those men were MIA.[/quote]
What about the struggle after the struggle? What about nation building after the SNM self destructed ee reer iyo reer lays ku laayay?
Somalidu waxay tidhaa ninba marbuu ciidamiyaa…Cigaal (RIP) did more than his share in creating the modern Somaliland that you’re so proud of including the national currency, flag, national anthem, the police force and most importantly the Somaliland military. He certainly created the multi party system that allows certain individuals to become relevant once again in Somaliland. He created functioning government and self pride that uplift the spirit and the moral of the average citizen in back home.
There is no need to throw everybody under the bus just because. No one is an angel. People make mistakes, politicians in particular. At the end of the day, you have to check the balance sheet, if the good outweighs the bad….then why not!
Re: Short Biography on Cumar Carte qalib
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:02 pm
by The_Emperior5
Yes indeed one of the greatest Statesmen Of africa President Maxammad Xaji iebrahien Cigaal.
Quote Cigaal
Wisdoms of the late Statesman & father of the nation, the late president of Somaliland Hon: Mohamed Ibrahim Egal
"Tribalism was the greatest obstacle to nationhood and for that reason it was imperative to face this issue [tribalism] with a united front, do away with clannism and become a nation that could be recognized ...
Quote Cigaal
It is a double standard if we are denied recognition just because our brothers in the south have not been able to establish a viable government with whom we could negotiate like the Eritreans negotiated with the Ethiopian government".
Re: Short Biography on Cumar Carte qalib
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:36 pm
by Dhaga Bacayl
Adna was a fox.
She doesn't look like a Somali though rather African American!
Re: Short Biography on Cumar Carte qalib
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:45 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
Marxuum Maxamed Xaaji Ibraahim Cigaal - Ilaahey ha u naxariiste. wabiyaha jannatul fardaws-na haka waraabiyo
Re: Short Biography on Cumar Carte qalib
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:26 pm
by Dhaga Bacayl
Cumar-Labasuul wrote:Marxuum Maxamed Xaaji Ibraahim Cigaal - Ilaahey ha u naxariiste. wabiyaha jannatul fardaws-na haka waraabiyo
AAMIIN!~
Re: Short Biography on Cumar Carte qalib
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:41 pm
by The_Emperior5
Cigaal in the back
all the african leaders from idi amin to haille selesie to Yowmo kenyata to President cigaal aun