Map Showing The Territories Of Somali Clans

[snoop12]

its OK! it could be more accurate.

who made it ? im not being funny but i think its an MJ who made this, "Harti" ? more like MJ they did not settle in Jubbada hoose as original settlers, they were newly arived city dwellers and small time farmers, JUST like Marexan from the north.

i say the real original settlers of Jubbada hoose are pushed down, that is Talxe, Hawrarsame and other Marexans, Also Gaaljecel and Shiikhaal.

and Leelkase is missing from the map, i wonder why

[Rooble90]

its OK! it could be more accurate.

who made it ? im not being funny but i think its an MJ who made this, "Harti" ? more like MJ they did not settle in Jubbada hoose as original settlers, they were newly arived city dwellers and small time farmers, JUST like Marexan from the north.

i say the real original settlers of Jubbada hoose are pushed down, that is Talxe, Hawrarsame and other Marexans, Also Gaaljecel and Shiikhaal.

and Leelkase is missing from the map, i wonder why

That Map Is From The 1950's...

BTW.."Leelkase In Jubboyinka"

[snoop12]

Rooble

No. Leelkase settle in Goldogob, Gaalkacyo and live in Bari too. why are they missing when they have significant presence? well if it was MJ who made this map in 1950s it makes sense because Leelkase and Majerteen pretty much wanted to eradicate one another at that time.

as for Kista

my father lived in Kismaayo in the 60s and there was only one small Xaafad there, the city we now know was nothing but a Tuulo with a somewhat modern port and few houses formaly owned by foreigners. between 50s and 60s there was influx of both MJs from Bari and Marexans from Mudug, MJs came in floks in boats from Bari whiles Marexan from the north came in moderately. both groups were city dwellers and farm owners, and in the case of the farms, We stole from foreigners who stole from the Nation during colonisation.
the real settlers of the Lower Jubba region however are missing from the map(Gaaljecel, Shiikhaal and smaller groups including Bajuuni, Carlame etc) and some are pushed down like the Marexan(Telxa, Hawrarsame etc).

i would not say its a blasphemous misconception because Shabeelaha and Jubbada Hoose were not known to most Somalis who are mostly from the north. But ask Talxe, Shiikhaal or Gaaljecel and they will tell you how people in those areas use to settle.

[ultimatenemsis]

Inaccurate map:

Some minority tribe is given a TOWN in the 50's discovered by us. And occupied 99.9%

Western Bari?

Jubbas?

[Rooble90]

Rooble

No. Leelkase settle in Goldogob, Gaalkacyo and live in Bari too. why are they missing when they have significant presence? well if it was MJ who made this map in 1950s it makes sense because Leelkase and Majerteen pretty much wanted to eradicate one another at that time.

as for Kista

my father lived in Kismaayo in the 60s and there was only one small Xaafad there, the city we now know was nothing but a Tuulo with a somewhat modern port and few houses formaly owned by foreigners. between 50s and 60s there was influx of both MJs from Bari and Marexans from Mudug, MJs came in floks in boats from Bari whiles Marexan from the north came in moderately. both groups were city dwellers and farm owners, and in the case of the farms, We stole from foreigners who stole from the Nation during colonisation.
the real settlers of the Lower Jubba region however are missing from the map(Gaaljecel, Shiikhaal and smaller groups including Bajuuni, Carlame etc) and some are pushed down like the Marexan(Telxa, Hawrarsame etc).

i would not say its a blasphemous misconception because Shabeelaha and Jubbada Hoose were not known to most Somalis who are mostly from the north. But ask Talxe, Shiikhaal or Gaaljecel and they will tell you how people in those areas use to settle.

Yeah My Uncle, Told Me That, Talxe Geelkiisa Baa Daaqo Kismayo Korkeeda ..

[Rooble90]

Inaccurate map:

Some minority tribe is given a TOWN in the 50's discovered by us. And occupied 99.9%

Western Bari?

Jubbas?

Seems Like You Use Your Imagination To Much

Aren't You That Cawrmale Dude ?

[ultimatenemsis]

Clearly that map is scaled, its a well known fact Habar Garhajis (who ever they are Dir?) never inhabited central sanaag especially Erigavo. This isn't during the armed conflicts of 88-93. The last 150 yrs we've been in these regions in significant populations:

Western Bari- Dubeys

Northern Sool Plateu: Reer Salaax, Adan Yaqub, Bah Iidoor

Western Sanaag: Muxumud

Jubbas: Ciisman Ibrahim/Dubeys.

[Rooble90]

Clearly that map is scaled, its a well known fact Habar Garhajis (who ever they are Dir?) never inhabited central sanaag especially Erigavo. This isn't during the armed conflicts of 88-93. The last 150 yrs we've been in these regions in significant populations:

Western Bari- Dubeys

Northern Sool Plateu: Reer Salaax, Adan Yaqub, Bah Iidoor

Western Sanaag: Muxumud

Jubbas: Ciisman Ibrahim/Dubeys.

[ultimatenemsis]

Dir

[Rooble90]

Dir

Keep Your Comment's To YourSelf Walal..

I'm Not That Fond Of "Tuna"

But Grilled Salmon Is Pretty Nice, The Baked Fish & Chips Is Good Aswell

[LiQaaye_TDH]

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One of Most Accurate Map, even thou This Map was from 1930 made by the British, at them Days Look Habar jeclo didnt even live in Berbera or in Ethiopia

[Digdahab]

I think this map looks pretty accurate, especially the more east you get.
However my knowledge of southern deegano is limited so I'll leave that to the locals from there.

But one thing the author got very wrong is the internal Garhajis distribution.
No Habar Younis subclan is except for Ololweyne in Bulxaar borders directly to Sacad Muuse country.
It seems like the map gave away large portions of Ciidagale territories from all north passed Dararweyne, Dhubato .
To west Wadabariis, Balli Boos , close to Faraweyne.

Allthough they are family, HY does not settle anywhere near the southern land of Hargeisa.
You have to go further northeast to find Isaxaaq/Ciidagale settlements starting from Halaye and eastwards.
Given away Salaxley , Rabasso , Sut , Qool Aday , Toon , Labi Sagaale just in the south.
No to mention eastern Danwadaag territories, it's a bit unserious. Either he should have drawn it as whole Garhajis country.
Or corrected these errors, plus including Arap . W/Galbeed east of Hargeisa is 60-65 % of the gobol itself.
And of this land some 15-20 % is settled by Arap, 20-25 % by Isxaaq and rest by Ciidagale 55-60 % landmass.
Ciidagale is the only clan that borders the " big four " pastorally in W/galbeed.

if you search on the google earth you would be amazed how much Habar Awal land has been compromised in the west and south as well, what happened to Agabar for example?

Also another important notion, Sacad Muuse and Ciise Muuse allthough are relatives, they don't share any continous border.
Ciidagale settles in between up to the shores and southwest of Dacar'Buduq .
Isxaaq is more east, google Cadaadley or any other notable large pastoral settlement for example.
Habar Younis in Togdheer seems to have lost around 40 % of their territorial width below Burco.
Visually the map is not pleasing to my eyes, the distance between Duruqsi and Buuhoodle is around 130 km.
Where is Duruqsi on the map?.... again another error.


But it's a good map anyhow.

[Cirwaaq]

Sheik Madar warned the Sacad muse a long time ago according to a friend. Sheik fortold of a time when the hargeisa will be filled with ''dad aan la garaneynin''. Sacad muse were adviced to migrate from hargeisa before such time.

Anyone know if that is true???

[Siciid85]

Digdahab correction the H.Y togdheer border starts way before Duruksi at the place called Yaboodh Yaboodh something and it's settled by Reer Cawl, anyway as you can see here Garhajis have the biggest southern borders of somaliland, this is map is inaccurate on the ciidagale part since they live way beyond baligubadle on the otherside at wadabariis, + and the H.Y & Ciidagale reach further deep hawd to Nusdariiq, Moholiin, near Degaxbuur, Danoot areas and further in land and your right Buhoodle & Duruksii are like 130km apart not that far apart.





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[CoolPoisons]

this map from 300 sano ka hor

before the rest of somalida were in bushes