Dhuloos prive Section is needed

[Babygirl-]

Anti SSC ba tahay!! you are the same as Xabasade, Sandule, Ina-Afqudhac, Abdisamad Shire the list is long..

It's Good to blame yourself but you have to Support your people too.

Halkaas ha inogu eekato.

[paidmonk]

Wow, I did not see this topic.

Udun is the first Dulbahante who finally says what MJs & other reer Puntland have been saying all along.

What happened in Lascanood was internal feud between Dulbahante and its not good for MJ troops to get in there and kill a Dulbahante in front of his own brother. Responsibility belongs to reer Lascanood, not Puntland.

Udun, Babygirl is known to be emotional and not rational (no offense BG ) so don't take her seriously until she provides serious progress on what is going on with SSC.

She is lying when she says Puntland does not support SSC, all Puntland elders support Dulbahante regardless but its a bad idea for Dulbahante to have an independent state without a port, good roads, or infrastructure. It is in everyone's interest to join Puntland because it is a realistic state with a good track record on development. But most of all, everything depends on Dulbahante and their goals and if they are going to use the state to further their own progress.

[ultimatenemsis]

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Blame game is on!!!!!!!

Bring aabeeso in your home, shoot the fire fighters who was trying to keep it out, and then blame the fire fighters. Walle waa cajiib.

What Fighter?? Cade Muse who did the Abdi Bile?

Udun let me ask you you are the President of Puntland, Lascanod is attacked by pro-Somalidid Dhulbahante would ran away or Fight for it?

And then Gaalkacyo is Attacked by pro Islamic Courts Supported by Mjs would you defend them the same?

Simple answer, Adde Muse did not have fellow Cumar Maxamud, Ibraahiino, Leelkase, and Awrtable (Daarood Mudug) shooting him and PL soldiers from behind. He did not have those men bringing outsiders into their homes and fighting for it. Let us get real here. I think you are missing many facts. At the fall of Las Anod, Dhulbahante met in Bo'ame in 2007 and we had decided to raise 3000 men divided into three branches. Only 1300 men came and we still blame others on our shortcomings and internal lugooyo. The ones who were not committed to bring their fare share of the fighting force want to claim "SSC". I, for one, and many reerkas know the hypocrisy behind it. Other Daaroods raised close to 4000 and after they saw our internal bickering did not want to commit to a fight while we are divided and playing nonsensical politics. PL is having its fare of the blame but let be no dispute, it is Dhuloos who are the root cause. It is us who are caught up with internal power struggle and hate between each other and the last thing we need is to blame our problems on others. It is well-known the phrase "Ama iiga ka kac ama Iidoor baan keeni".

My motto is simple stop balming PL and SL. get real, look at our internal divisions, and heartless politicians who would do any thing to get a seat. It is a time for soul searching and empty slogans will go nowhere.

Send me a pm if you want to continue. The discussion like this should be a private and not public. Have you ever heard of "Ceebtaada waa la qarsadaa". I ended here.

He's inherited his logic from his abtiyaal

[The_Emperior5]

Wow, I did not see this topic.

Udun is the first Dulbahante who finally says what MJs & other reer Puntland have been saying all along.

What happened in Lascanood was internal feud between Dulbahante and its not good for MJ troops to get in there and kill a Dulbahante in front of his own brother. Responsibility belongs to reer Lascanood, not Puntland.

Udun, Babygirl is known to be emotional and not rational (no offense BG ) so don't take her seriously until she provides serious progress on what is going on with SSC.

She is lying when she says Puntland does not support SSC, all Puntland elders support Dulbahante regardless but its a bad idea for Dulbahante to have an independent state without a port, good roads, or infrastructure. It is in everyone's interest to join Puntland because it is a realistic state with a good track record on development. But most of all, everything depends on Dulbahante and their goals and if they are going to use the state to further their own progress.

Paidmonk you are wrong Puntland is an administration, the puntland administration should protect its citizens from any aggressor that comes from outside Whether they are dhulbahante or majeerteen , You cant say Dhulbahante Somaliland ba idinku soo duushay its for you to solve it , What the hell is that isn’t there a leadership, you made a big mistake when you say the responsibility belongs to reer laascanood no it doesn’t it belongs to puntland to protect its people, babygirl is 100% right when she says puntland gives Galkacyo More priority , then laascanood, Second last but not least she is also right when she says puntland doesent support ssc why does The ssc leaders have to go to caabudwaaq and gobolada dhexe why cant they use bossaso or garowe as a base that shows u puntland does not support the ssc

[paidmonk]

The thing is, Somaliland did not invade Lascanood. The Dulbahante made a decision to fight one another. No MJ can stop that. That's what you fail to see.

I swear today if Garxaajis fought each other and another Isaaq sub-clan came to support one side it would be civil war just like 1994. We don't want civil war and we don't want to anger Dulbahante. You are seeing everything wrong.

This has nothing to do with Somaliland, there were like 10 Isaaq officers involved at the most and they came later. This was a Dulbahante clan war that MJs or Puntland had NO part in. No Leelkase, no Awrtable, no MJ wanted to get involved. Period. Listen to Udun.

[The_Emperior5]

The thing is, Somaliland did not invade Lascanood. The Dulbahante made a decision to fight one another. No MJ can stop that. That's what you fail to see.

I swear today if Garxaajis fought each other and another Isaaq sub-clan came to support one side it would be civil war just like 1994. We don't want civil war and we don't want to anger Dulbahante. You are seeing everything wrong.

This has nothing to do with Somaliland, there were like 10 Isaaq officers involved at the most and they came later. This was a Dulbahante clan war that MJs or Puntland had NO part in. No Leelkase, no Awrtable, no MJ wanted to get involved. Period. Listen to Udun.

Somaliland did inavade laascanood with their troops From adhicadeeye who were sitting there for 7 years Including with dhulbahante who were supportive to and loyal to Somaliland somaliland army has habarawal gadabuursi ciise akishe habarjeclo ciidagalle habaryoonis ayub toljecle Fiqishini Dhulbahante , For you it should not matter if you consider laascanood being part of puntland u had to fight for it using your puntland might , let me ask you a question lets say if galkacyo gets invaded by galmudug and galkacyo gets occupied by galmudug using cumar maxamuds being part of galmudug ,what do you think faroole should of done would do you think he woud of said cumar maxamuuds its for you to solve your own internal problems that’s bulshit man , Lets say today puntland attacked ceerigabo with muuse ismacil h.y who are supporting puntland do you think Daahir riyaale will say Well muse ismacil u guys need to defend your selfs he will send troops from Ciidanka 24 that is based in berbera and Burco to Fight in Ceerigabo because there is an administration that’s what you fail 2 see paidmonk

[paidmonk]

If Cumar Maxamud attack Gaalkacyo using Cumar Maxamud troops, the rest of Cumar Maxamud will call on Puntland troops mainly Majerteen to karbaash them. We don't care about spilling our brothers blood if it sets him straight and is better for the state, but that's Majerteen love right there. Majerteen can karbaash other Majerteen but we can't karbaash Dulbahante, that's their problem to solve; we have always stayed on a separate page when it comes to internal problems.


As for Somaliland, Isaaq are different, I don't know your culture or politics, I only know what MJs would do. We are different people, that's all that can be said.

[The_Emperior5]

If Cumar Maxamud attack Gaalkacyo using Cumar Maxamud troops, the rest of Cumar Maxamud will call on Puntland troops mainly Majerteen to karbaash them. We don't care about spilling our brothers blood if it sets him straight and is better for the state, but that's Majerteen love right there. Majerteen can karbaash other Majerteen but we can't karbaash Dulbahante, that's their problem to solve; we have always stayed on a separate page when it comes to internal problems.


As for Somaliland, Isaaq are different, I don't know your culture or politics, I only know what MJs would do. We are different people, that's all that can be said.

Its funny when you say that you will use the puntland army to karbaash your majeerteen brothers if they bring hawiyes to galkacyo. But Abdilahi yusuf when he was fighting jamac cali jamac in 2000 and 2001 he used Dhulbahante who were part of the puntland army to karbaash the cismaan maxamuuds, Why cant those who are supportive of puntland dhulbahantes use the Puntland army to karbaash those Who were supportive to Somaliland, or can only majeerteen use the Puntland army , and other puntland clans cant?

[paidmonk]

Its funny when you say that you will use the puntland army to karbaash your majeerteen brothers if they bring hawiyes to galkacyo. But Abdilahi yusuf when he was fighting jamac cali jamac in 2000 and 2001 he used Dhulbahante who were part of the puntland army to karbaash the cismaan maxamuuds, Why cant those who are supportive of puntland dhulbahantes use the Puntland army to karbaash those Who were supportive to Somaliland, or can only majeerteen use the Puntland army , and other puntland clans cant?

Jamac Cali Jamac war was not about Cusman Maxamud. It was Reer Bari/TNG-supporters/Al-Itixaad supporters AGAINST Somali Salvation Democratic Front mainly Reer Mudug and their mercenaries. Unlike Somaliland, SSDF rules Puntland and will take over when they lose, its like Turkey. So it was basically pro-SSDF against anti-SSDF, it was not about qabiil so you're wrong. Jamac Cali Jamac was supported by a lot of different clans, most Cusman Maxamud did not even care about him or get involved and my sub-clan Ciise Maxamud stood in the middle but supported the winning side after every battle. It was about politics and TNG Cabdiqassim Salad mainly.

[The_Emperior5]

Its funny when you say that you will use the puntland army to karbaash your majeerteen brothers if they bring hawiyes to galkacyo. But Abdilahi yusuf when he was fighting jamac cali jamac in 2000 and 2001 he used Dhulbahante who were part of the puntland army to karbaash the cismaan maxamuuds, Why cant those who are supportive of puntland dhulbahantes use the Puntland army to karbaash those Who were supportive to Somaliland, or can only majeerteen use the Puntland army , and other puntland clans cant?

Jamac Cali Jamac war was not about Cusman Maxamud. It was Reer Bari/TNG-supporters/Al-Itixaad supporters AGAINST Somali Salvation Democratic Front mainly Reer Mudug and their mercenaries. Unlike Somaliland, SSDF rules Puntland and will take over when they lose, its like Turkey. So it was basically pro-SSDF against anti-SSDF, it was not about qabiil so you're wrong. Jamac Cali Jamac was supported by a lot of different clans, most Cusman Maxamud did not even care about him or get involved and my sub-clan Ciise Maxamud stood in the middle but supported the winning side after every battle. It was about politics and TNG Cabdiqassim Salad mainly.

It doesn’t matter jamac ali jamac was supported by the Cismaan maxamuuds the reer bossaso and the reer qardho, what ever the reason was why abdilahi yusuf fought them they were a dangerous to the puntland state which was back then run by Abdlahi yusuf a reer mudug , The dhulbahante supported Abdilahi yusuf a cumar maxamuud over an cismaan maxamuud. Cabdilahi yusuf really believed in a harti state From laacanood to Galkacyo because he knew Dhulbahante had habarjeclo next door with the Somaliland flag and his cumar maxamuud had Habargedir who were back then the president of Somalia , But my question was why can only majeerteen use the puntland army to defend their land from aggressors, and other puntland clans cant

[Babygirl-]

LOOL @ Paidmonk & Emperior you both have good points..

[Siciid85]

Emperior, you have a valid point there cause it seems the puntland force is made of mj and only mj are allowed to use that army and not other puntland clans.

[abdalla11]

Babygirl, it seems like you are not blaming the one who started the fire but u are blaming the one who didn't extinguish it. Bad logic

As for the lascaanood takeover first of all. Half of the PL soldiers went to Xamar with C/lahi Yusuf and the inhabitants of laascanood sided with Xaabsade. Marka dad aan ku rabin la khasbi karo. Besides how would you feel if Pland army slaughtered alot of pro somaliland dhullos?

udun soo dhawoow

[Babygirl-]

Babygirl, it seems like you are not blaming the one who started the fire but u are blaming the one who didn't extinguish it. Bad logic

As for the lascaanood takeover first of all. Half of the PL soldiers went to Xamar with C/lahi Yusuf and the inhabitants of laascanood sided with Xaabsade. Marka dad aan ku rabin la khasbi karo. Besides how would you feel if Pland army slaughtered alot of pro somaliland dhullos?

udun soo dhawoow

Waar Beenta Jooji why do you people lie? Horta the inhabitants of Lasanod sided with Xabasade kuye..

[abdalla11]

Babygirl, it seems like you are not blaming the one who started the fire but u are blaming the one who didn't extinguish it. Bad logic

As for the lascaanood takeover first of all. Half of the PL soldiers went to Xamar with C/lahi Yusuf and the inhabitants of laascanood sided with Xaabsade. Marka dad aan ku rabin la khasbi karo. Besides how would you feel if Pland army slaughtered alot of pro somaliland dhullos?

udun soo dhawoow

Waar Beenta Jooji why do you people lie? Horta the inhabitants of Lasanod sided with Xabasade kuye..

lol are you saying that xaabsade´s millitia is made of non-dhullos? the defeat was caused by dhulbahante not by puntland taas la soco